Ben Carson Wants Congress To Block Syrian Refugees
21 Nov 2015, 1:45 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
If someone wants to stay and fight, then I say good for them, and go for it. But I'm not about to condemn people who choose life with their families, either. Have you ever considered how many Americans today are here because they or their ancestors had fled from somewhere else because of certain death? Were they supposed to stay where they were at?
it depends on the situation and location. Syria is in civil war and its future undecided. In that case, taking sides and fighting would be the more noble route. Quote:
And yes, any parent will tell you nothing comes before the welfare of their children.
Any parent, huh? Since any is an all-inclusive term that means even those who have baked thier own babies in the oven to stop them from crying, intentionally starved thier children and/or other forms of gross mistreatment always put thier children's welfare first.
Even that aside, using one's children as an excuse for cowardice (or laziness) is pathetic.
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21 Nov 2015, 2:58 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
If someone wants to stay and fight, then I say good for them, and go for it. But I'm not about to condemn people who choose life with their families, either. Have you ever considered how many Americans today are here because they or their ancestors had fled from somewhere else because of certain death? Were they supposed to stay where they were at?
it depends on the situation and location. Syria is in civil war and its future undecided. In that case, taking sides and fighting would be the more noble route. Quote:
And yes, any parent will tell you nothing comes before the welfare of their children.
Any parent, huh? Since any is an all-inclusive term that means even those who have baked thier own babies in the oven to stop them from crying, intentionally starved thier children and/or other forms of gross mistreatment always put thier children's welfare first.
Even that aside, using one's children as an excuse for cowardice (or laziness) is pathetic.
Taking a side in a situation like the Syrian civil war where there very well may be no good side is a no-win situation. It's like choosing between Hitler and Stalin.
As for the baby microwavers, and other assorted human monsters who mistreat or even murder their children - those are hardly representative of most parents, and are actually very few in number.
And no, choosing life with your children over the chance to kill and die for whatever cause is not cowardice, or pathetic. Have a kid, and you'll have a very different perspective.
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21 Nov 2015, 5:59 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
If someone wants to stay and fight, then I say good for them, and go for it. But I'm not about to condemn people who choose life with their families, either. Have you ever considered how many Americans today are here because they or their ancestors had fled from somewhere else because of certain death? Were they supposed to stay where they were at?
it depends on the situation and location. Syria is in civil war and its future undecided. In that case, taking sides and fighting would be the more noble route. Quote:
And yes, any parent will tell you nothing comes before the welfare of their children.
Any parent, huh? Since any is an all-inclusive term that means even those who have baked thier own babies in the oven to stop them from crying, intentionally starved thier children and/or other forms of gross mistreatment always put thier children's welfare first.
Even that aside, using one's children as an excuse for cowardice (or laziness) is pathetic.
Taking a side in a situation like the Syrian civil war where there very well may be no good side is a no-win situation. It's like choosing between Hitler and Stalin.
Go with Hitler.
The nazis had better looking uniforms, not to mention that German food and drink are stratospheres above Russian.
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As for the baby microwavers, and other assorted human monsters who mistreat or even murder their children - those are hardly representative of most parents, and are actually very few in number.
You're the one that said any parent meaning all of them. Don't backpedal now.
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And no, choosing life with your children over the chance to kill and die for whatever cause is not cowardice, or pathetic. Have a kid, and you'll have a very different perspective.
Fortunately, not everyone falls apart and in effect cuts thier nads off after having a kid.
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21 Nov 2015, 10:55 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
If someone wants to stay and fight, then I say good for them, and go for it. But I'm not about to condemn people who choose life with their families, either. Have you ever considered how many Americans today are here because they or their ancestors had fled from somewhere else because of certain death? Were they supposed to stay where they were at?
it depends on the situation and location. Syria is in civil war and its future undecided. In that case, taking sides and fighting would be the more noble route. Quote:
And yes, any parent will tell you nothing comes before the welfare of their children.
Any parent, huh? Since any is an all-inclusive term that means even those who have baked thier own babies in the oven to stop them from crying, intentionally starved thier children and/or other forms of gross mistreatment always put thier children's welfare first.
Even that aside, using one's children as an excuse for cowardice (or laziness) is pathetic.
Taking a side in a situation like the Syrian civil war where there very well may be no good side is a no-win situation. It's like choosing between Hitler and Stalin.
Go with Hitler.
The nazis had better looking uniforms, not to mention that German food and drink are stratospheres above Russian.
Quote:
As for the baby microwavers, and other assorted human monsters who mistreat or even murder their children - those are hardly representative of most parents, and are actually very few in number.
You're the one that said any parent meaning all of them. Don't backpedal now.
Quote:
And no, choosing life with your children over the chance to kill and die for whatever cause is not cowardice, or pathetic. Have a kid, and you'll have a very different perspective.
Fortunately, not everyone falls apart and in effect cuts thier nads off after having a kid.
I'll give you the superiority of German beer and food.
I was speaking generally about parents. No backpedalling here.
As for your last point, I'm afraid I don't really get it.
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23 Nov 2015, 12:44 pm
Dillogic wrote:
Incidentally, Canada isn't taking in any single male refugees of fighting age.
Seems prudent (nice moderate stance). Women, children and families.
Seems prudent (nice moderate stance). Women, children and families.
Really?!?!
Well, you'll never hear an American liberal on this forum criticism Canada for anything. Canada is a liberal valhalla to them.
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