McDonald's customers ignore dying disabled man

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17 Dec 2015, 1:06 am

McDonald's customers step over dying disabled man to get orders for a big mac...
Apparently it's okay to leave a person to die without offering assistance if they look disabled...
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/r ... a90d801a41



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17 Dec 2015, 1:19 am

We'd better take that as a cautionary tale against going to those places in any condition which can render you unable to resist being trampled. Gotta remember customers pay to enjoy themselves, not to give a crap if you're dying or to take the trouble to step elsewhere if you're in their way.


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17 Dec 2015, 1:44 am

Nobody stops to help anybody anymore, especially if the person who's struggling has a disability. If I was in that McDonald's at the time, I would have given a damn. I love Sids....I mean people with disabilities.


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17 Dec 2015, 2:21 am

Lots of misleading headlines for this story. Nobody ignored him. Three people tried to help him, but they couldn't do anything for him.


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17 Dec 2015, 3:05 am

I had a grand mal seizure in 6th grade and no one took notice for five minutes according to my mother and my eyes were rolled back and my lips were blue.


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17 Dec 2015, 8:59 am

moral relativism run amok



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17 Dec 2015, 9:28 am

I had a petit mal seizure, where I just lost some time, during a fire drill when I was still working. I was a manager and everyone there knew I had a neurological disease. I "woke up" sitting at my desk in an empty office. Everyone just left me.

After that HR had to tell me before any fire alarms or flashing lights and I "worked" next door at Starbucks until it was over.



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17 Dec 2015, 9:50 am

And this adds to the reason I hate 99.9% of neurotypicals.



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17 Dec 2015, 10:42 am

andrethemoogle wrote:
And this adds to the reason I hate 99.9% of neurotypicals.


You know they are neurotypical how?

Maybe it was an Aspie who didn't expect to see a person in need on the floor during his food ordering routine and therefor skipped over the unexpected obstacle to get to the counter.

Either way, be careful throwing your hate around.



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17 Dec 2015, 10:49 am

They obviously realized death was the best thing for him.



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17 Dec 2015, 10:56 am

if i was a customer in that shop, i would not have touched him with a barge pole.
if any aspect of my treatment of him resulted in further injury or his death, then i could be liable for prosecution in the USA. in australia, of course i would try to help because we are not so litigious, but i still would realize that it would be better to summon emergency services help.

it would have made a worse story if the customers had trodden on him as they walked over him. as it was, they had the decency to lift their feet and avoid treading on him.

but it all ended up moot anyway because he died.



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17 Dec 2015, 2:38 pm

There's no way emergency services could have arrived before he suffocated to death. It looks like you can save someone from a fate like this man's only if you accept you're likely to be harshly punished, and to make a fool of yourself in front of the rest of the customers, who will as a result reinforce their determination never to behave like you, and will feel wise in doing so.

I misread the original post as saying the man had in fact been stepped upon, but I think you're better off expecting this if you're ever in his shoes.


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17 Dec 2015, 2:50 pm

b9 wrote:
if i was a customer in that shop, i would not have touched him with a barge pole.
if any aspect of my treatment of him resulted in further injury or his death, then i could be liable for prosecution in the USA. in australia, of course i would try to help because we are not so litigious, but i still would realize that it would be better to summon emergency services help.

it would have made a worse story if the customers had trodden on him as they walked over him. as it was, they had the decency to lift their feet and avoid treading on him.

but it all ended up moot anyway because he died.

most states have good samaritan laws. you can't be sued for free help given in an emergency.



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17 Dec 2015, 2:55 pm

At least three people tried to help him, but tragically were unable to do so. This does not in any way diminish or excuse the selfish actions of those who ignored his plight, or even stepped over him. Sadly, research has revealed that this is a common response to people in distress, at least in the US.

Edited to remove the implication that disable people are exclusively ignored when in distress. Research shows that a majority of people will not step up to help a person suffering a medical emergency. It's not clear why this is, though. People also seem to lack insight about their own tendencies in this regard, which could actually be part of the problem.



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17 Dec 2015, 10:32 pm

andrethemoogle wrote:
And this adds to the reason I hate 99.9% of neurotypicals.


To paraphrase a conversation from Charles Bukowski's film, Barfly:

"Neurotypicals; don't you hate them?"
"No, but I feel better when they're not around."


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17 Dec 2015, 11:12 pm

You've all missed the real lesson here: Fast food destroys empathy.


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