Sex crimes in Europe by North African and Arab men

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05 Jan 2016, 4:12 pm

News reports of mass sexual assaults, rapes, battery and by large groups of North African or Arab men in cities across Germany during New Years Eve celebrations reminded me of both the rapes and sexual assaults against journalists in Cairo's Tahrir Square and the many horrific cases in cities across the United Kingdom of gangs of Muslim Asians raping and sexually assaulting young English girls, predominantly white girls.

It seems that there is real culture clash here.

These men from ultra-conservative countries, some where women are required to cover themselves completely, may be forbidden to drive vehicles or leave the family compound unescorted by a male relative or guard, have no idea how to behave in a more open society.

There seems to be some bogus idea that the only responses are to demonize all immigrants, or pretend that the very clear pattern of Muslim male violence against women does not exist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ee-debate/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world ... -says.html



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05 Jan 2016, 6:00 pm

I read how some moron in power in Germany was saying how women need to dress less "alluring" as those from Muslim countries aren't used to seeing women like such.

Uh huh. Good old victim blaming. It's what Muslims also do to chain up females.

How about you educate said individuals before letting them roam around? And if they can't change, throw them out or put them in jail after they commit a crime (like you do for everyone).



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05 Jan 2016, 6:21 pm

Merkel is a traitor to her country and all of Europe



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05 Jan 2016, 6:59 pm

Oh cmon, we need to allow MORE of them so that can happen in America too...



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05 Jan 2016, 8:49 pm

So we get the usual "Demonize them all response." Not all Muslims or all Muslim immigrants to Europe are rapists. Acting as if they are seems about as skillful and sensible as a sack of potatoes.

But pretending there is no cultural problem is no better. I think they need to indoctrinate them into western culture. Maybe have some acclimatization areas, where people can gradually transition to western values or reject them and go home.

For these guys, they need to Jail them and then deport them and they should never be allowed back. Their criminal history should be made available to border control agencies globally.



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05 Jan 2016, 9:06 pm

Adamantium wrote:
I think they need to indoctrinate them into western culture. Maybe have some acclimatization areas, where people can gradually transition to western values or reject them and go home.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Oh, Adam, you'll be the death of me ! !! !

Indoctrinate these dudes into western culture ? Well, blimey, it doesn't work that way, love. They will indoctrinate YOU. The newest Jihadi John is widely speculated to be a former British Hindu / Buddhist, Siddhartha Dhar, who was radicalized after he married a Muslim woman, Aisha. His former neighbours and family have all spoken out about how Siddhartha changed from a soft-spoken, respectable, children-loving, bouncy-castle salesman after he married and converted to Islam, to someone none of them ever seemed to have known, to now beheading 5 men in cold blood on camera.

You can't indoctrinate rabid beasts. You castrate them, then deport them. EOS.

As for Siddhartha, he's a dead man walking. Cameron doesn't take kindly to being called "an imbecile" and how the island he runs will soon be under the rule of the Sharia. Methinks that a drone will vaporize Siddhartha 'ere long. Cameron is not known for a sense of humour, eh, what ?


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05 Jan 2016, 9:13 pm

Adamantium wrote:
Not all Muslims or all Muslim immigrants to Europe are rapists..


Of course, and I doubt it'd be any serious statistically relevant amount that are (until I'm shown data saying otherwise).

However, importing a group of people that adds to the criminal element, doesn't really strike me as smart from the perspective of someone that needs to care for their own people first.



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05 Jan 2016, 11:08 pm

One of our former conservative Australian foreign ministers Kevin Andrews actually stopped migration of refugees from Sudan into Australia on the basis of criminal activities by a handful of Sudanese. From a legal standpoint this has been done before and nobody batted an eyelid.



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05 Jan 2016, 11:11 pm

HisMom wrote:
They will indoctrinate YOU.

Not going to happen. I am not susceptible to that kind of belief. I am too reality-oriented.

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You can't indoctrinate rabid beasts. You castrate them, then deport them. EOS.

Maybe they would get castration or beheading or whatever back home, but that's not part of my culture. Maybe twenty-thirty years in a penitentiary followed by deportation to wherever they came from, taking their record with them.

And who knows? In two or three decades, with exponential advances in biotechnology, they may even have effective cures for sex criminals and fundamentalists.

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As for Siddhartha, he's a dead man walking.
That much is certain.



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05 Jan 2016, 11:27 pm

Adamantium wrote:
News reports of mass sexual assaults, rapes, battery and by large groups of North African or Arab men in cities across Germany during New Years Eve celebrations reminded me of both the rapes and sexual assaults against journalists in Cairo's Tahrir Square and the many horrific cases in cities across the United Kingdom of gangs of Muslim Asians raping and sexually assaulting young English girls, predominantly white girls.


And from what I have read the German police are under orders to cover these kind of crimes up, so the only reason we even know about this is because it was to big keep it out of the news.



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06 Jan 2016, 12:10 am

Adamantium wrote:
Not going to happen. I am not susceptible to that kind of belief. I am too reality-oriented.


Probably *exactly* what Mr. Dhar told his worried family about his decision to marry the comely, devout Aisha. "Don't worry, Mum, I got it covered. You know me, don't you ? I am too solid for that kind of (religious Jihad) nonsense."

4-and-1/2 kids later, we all know exactly how that worked out for Siddhartha.

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Maybe they would get castration or beheading or whatever back home, but that's not part of my culture. Maybe twenty-thirty years in a penitentiary followed by deportation to wherever they came from, taking their record with them.


Oh, aye, feed, clothe and house these beasts on the taxpayers' dime for decades ! That's the "Western way", aien't it ? And the way you protect your borders and take action against wanna-be Jihadis is to send out a polite letter to terrorism suspects, requesting them to show up at such-and-such place at such-and-such time and to please turn in their passport to such-and-such person. Then sit back and wait.... and wait... and wait.... only to have the suspect send you an email telling the Metro police that he aien't in the UK anymore, that he be over at Raqqa and to "come and get me, suckers".

Oh, yes, indeed, I like your Western values very much. Too bad this didn't work out too well for Scotland Yard in the matter of the terrorist Mr. Dhar.


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06 Jan 2016, 12:42 am

Why is it relevant to mention the race or religion of the perpetrators? Are we just going to pretend white men don't also commit these sorts of crimes?

This has nothing to do with race, nor any political motivations. It's just another sad example of what happens when you have hundreds of drunk obnoxious men in a party environment. It's a terrible crime, and the men deserve to be punished, but for people to try and spin it into a racist narrative is just appalling.



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06 Jan 2016, 1:04 am

I had a feeling this would happen. You can't just let in a million people from a region where there happen to be terrorists and rapists. This is why we should have made the immigration more organized, but we didn't and now we have people doing this. I'm seriously questioning whether the Muslims can assimilate. I know Muslims who are good people and would never do this, but we can't just ignore the fact that immigrants commit rape and assault far more than the average resident of Germany or Sweden. And we can't ignore the fact that they are following a religion that allows this.
So I'd much rather be ''un-PC'' or be branded ''culturally insensitive'' than be tolerant of this kind of behavior.


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06 Jan 2016, 3:18 am

Barchan wrote:
Why is it relevant to mention the race or religion of the perpetrators? Are we just going to pretend white men don't also commit these sorts of crimes?

This has nothing to do with race, nor any political motivations. It's just another sad example of what happens when you have hundreds of drunk obnoxious men in a party environment. It's a terrible crime, and the men deserve to be punished, but for people to try and spin it into a racist narrative is just appalling.


This is willful ignorance and a flight from logic. Yes, men of all races and religions commit these sorts of crimes. So what? They don't commit them in this way. Your argument is like suggesting that there can't be a problem with the Zetas in Mexico because the Italians have the Mafia and There are also Colombian drug cartels.

It isn't racist to point out that the Mafia is Italian.

It isn't a racist narrative when it's a recurring problem with a particular culture.

It's stupid to react with a truly racist narrative and blame "all them", but it's equally stupid to ignore the real problem that permits some men from these cultures to behave in this extraordinary way. And it's a terrible, terrible thing to do to the women and very young girls who have been and will continue to be their victims until a more intelligent and effective approach to the problem can be devised.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ction.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-31696276

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-19090706



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06 Jan 2016, 4:07 am

Europe's being invaded because of politically correct stupidity. It's committing cultural suicide.