"I can't get a girlfriend because I'm a beta male."

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I wish romantically unsuccessful guys would stop spreading this lie that you have to be some sort of macho alpha male to get women. Women are attracted to all kinds of guys. Some of them like macho jerks. Some of them like shy, sweet nice guys. Some of them like nerds. They're not stock characters in some medieval mummer's play. If you are unsuccessful with women, it's not because you're a "beta male". It's not because you have some inherent personality quality or curse that you can't do anything about. It's because you're taking the wrong approach to dating. Or maybe you're doing something that's driving women off (this can be a common problem with aspies). It's not because those mean alpha male jerks are monopolizing all the pretty girls. You can change.

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here.

How does a forum, predominantly occupied by single men who deem themselves and each other to be not as successful or macho or fascinating as their peers who do have partners, spouses etc. support your argument?

The traits that they are thought to be lacking, or the fact that anything is lacking, is often and normally has been associated with a lower tier in a hierarchy.

Humans have long evolved past the "old system" and many men and women look past what traditionally made both sexes "winners", and have refined what attraction is. However, you cannot deny the "old system" still exists and will be ingrained in human culture and nature for some time to come.

I can't get a girlfriend because I am a Gamma male.

That makes me radioactive and highly explosive.

Humans have a problem-solving brain.
If a problem can't be solved in one way i.e if a guy can't get a girlfriend by following all the accepted formulas he believes are required for getting a girlfriend, he's going to solve it in another way i.e. reclassifying the situation so he can justify his failure.

^ Yep. That concept is what lead to the creation of mythological beings such as the Greek Gods. People were at their wits end with crops dying, diseases spreading, et cetera, so they concluded there were immortal beings who they had offended.

As I have stated before, using the biologist definition of Alpha/Beta, it doesn't apply to humans.

A good example for Alpha/Beta is the grey wolf.

It doesn't matter how good one male human is he can't control access to the females so the other males can't mate.

For one we live in societies not packs. There is multiple types of power overlapping groups, and there is a power dynamic.

Even the evolutionary theory doesn't relate. Our power of adaption, is quite a bit to do with producing different people with different skills. Those different skills need to be passed on.

That is not to say there isn't some status grade in relationship.

I can't get a girl because I don't have a car...

^ That's so bad it's good.

I have a girl friend called Mary Jane and we get intimate all day and all night, its like a honeymoon thats never ending. I love her affect on me and she loves the way I use her.

Zing

Maybe some are also pursuing the wrong kind of women for them to, I mean if you're pursuing someone who is simply not compatible no approach is going to work.

^ Agreed. Being macho doesn't make you more interesting. People have told me they love talking to me because I make really interesting conversation, and I am a textbook beta male.

It's astounding that people can talk one moment about neurodiversity and in the next attempt to classify into a small number of groups all men and women. If you wanna get laid, just find a like minded person of your preferred sex. Be confident. Be nice. Be open-minded and non-prejudiced.

But hey, I'm gay, so I can get sex any time I want :-p