1% is the reports of completed rape, attempted rape, sexual assault or threat of sexual assault/rape in university population ages 18 to 25 between 1995-2013, it is actually less then 1% in fact. Yes it is likely to be higher than that for unreported and I made sure mention that in my opening post.
I was saying there is no reason to assume there is more rape/sexual assault in universities. Not that there isn't or I know for sure. The verifiable statics says that there is more rape/sexual assault outside of university. Not multiple time, but 1.2 times. So it is little safer in universities according to reported figures.
It could be that students are less likely to report, but we can't assume that that either. Hence my statement stands, we can't assume it, we must do more research.
One narrative has been a culture and epidemic of sexual violence specifically in universities. It doesn't mean I know the actual rate, I'm saying the best evidence we doesn't support an assumption that there is an epidemic in universities.
The 1/4 or 1/5 women experienced it in universities statistic used by some activists has not been substantiated with evidence beyond anecdotal. This is a massively high figure, which naturally draws attention for scrutiny.
For that to be true, either the offenders must be very efficient and prolific, or there are large number of offender in universities. Sorry but naturally I'm skeptical of such high numbers, becuase of the maths involved. You also have to look at the methodology involve in drawing those conclusion to see that there are problems there.
These sorts of statistic are often used to highlight an issue, however when they lack credibility it doesn't serve to help those most in need, as that information is not practically useful for anything.
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I just meant that if you aren't a student at university/college, how is the issue of sexual assault specifically on campuses relevant to you to the extent that you need to debate about it on the internet? It seems like a lot of people who want to talk about sexual assault on the internet want to stop victims from talking about their experiences or discount victims and claim it's not as much of a problem as it is, and I don't see how that is productive or conducive to anything good. Sexual assault victims care about justice, too.
Anything should be open to debate. Whether I'm in university or not. I care about accurate research so victims can be helped. If perceptions get in the way of this, that is too bad.
Where have I said that sexual assault victims don't care about justice or that I'm trying to de-legitimaise or stop victims talking about their experiences?
I never want to stop anyone talking about their experiences, whatever they may be.
I'm pointing out that perceptions can be wrong, and we need to look at modus operandi empirically as possible without being tainted by perceptions and social theory. I think this is a fair point to make.
You are basically implying becuase I want to debate this, and not towing a line, then I should be pigeon holed. Nope, this discussion is encouraging open debate. You are doing it now with me, if you want to of course.
However you a lot focused on why I want to debate this. A good enough reason for debate is simply to be inquisitive and analytical and there is no other prerequisite require beyond that.
It is bad thing when a subject is too sensitive to discuss.
21 Mar 2016, 7:49 pm
