Bernie Sanders is helping build Democratic party's future

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Contrary to popular belief that Bernie Sanders is hurting the Democratic party a recent Harvard poll shows that Bernie is helping to grow the Democratic party's future.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/25 ... y-s-Future

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The evidence you cite comes with a strange warning, look under the graph, it says, "These are numbers which the Democratic National Party ignores at their peril".

Huh? "Peril"?

Well, truth be told, Bernie Sanders supporters seem to actually HATE the Democratic party.

That is what the evidence your cite means by "peril".

Sanders is NOT even a true democrat, and Trump isnt a true republican. It shows that the 2 party system needs to go. People can and should run independent, period.

The sad fact of the matter is Sanders wouldn't have gotten this far if he had been independent I bet. Trump- perhaps he would've been fine, after all..since he is just a lying crook, and preys upon people's emotions. He's literally lying and gaslighting people a ton, and getting the support from people similar to him (racists, sexists, liars, etc).

But meh.. politics in general is just a corrupt system. So it doesn't matter what most candidates say now, they will change their tune once in office. It happens nearly every dang time! They should be for the people (as they love to claim), not their personal friends. It's 2016- and so many people in the USA (and the world in general) are still going sick, hungry and/or homeless. It's sickening

Politically Hillary Clinton is center right and Bernie Sanders is a centrist, or center left at best. Meaning that he is actually more of a democrat politically than Hillary is. Sanders is what the democratic party used to be before the party moved to the right.

Yes, he isn't a democrat of today's party and is an independent, but he is more like a democrat should be than Hillary.



If the Republicans and Democrats would let Independents into their little game of politics neither party would survive politically. More people in America are Independent than are either Republican or Democrat, and numbers for Independents are rising faster now than in any other time in history due to millennials.

Bernie Sanders is doing so well because his message resonates so well with the American people. You can't explain away his popularity nor the fact that he went from 3% in the polls last year to giving Hillary a run for her, as well as the corporate establishments, money.



B.S.

Sanders supporters hate the lying establishment backed candidates that keep selling America down the river. They have watched as big banks were bailed out and not one CEO went to jail for their criminal activities, they can't get a good job because our presidents keep sending American jobs over seas. The list goes on and on.

Millennials are the first generation that will do significantly worse than their parents generation. I can't see how anyone could be surprised by their anger at the rigged system that America has become. They are fighting to have a better life, the life they should be living now if American politics wasn't so corrupted by big money interests.

Both the Republican and Democratic party are in peril of becoming extinct if they keep ignoring the current shifting political winds.

All the polling research and market research has repeatedly shown and reported on all news services including AP and BBC World that Sanders supporters are either going to vote Republican or not vote at all come November if anyone else is the Democratic Nominee (even if the DNC bars Hillary).

The same numbers show that Sanders supporters don't support Down Ticket Democrats (all Democrats running for other offices) and raising money for them.

Hillary supporters are willing to vote for Democrats at the congressional, state and local level.

His supporters have a saying "Bernie or Bust!"

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-c ... story.html
http://americablog.com/2016/04/mrs-sand ... llary.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/3032610/bernie ... orses-her/
http://time.com/4305514/bernie-sanders- ... ion-polls/

Sanders has also not accounted for all of his election expenses and contributions.
There are huge discrepancies with what Sanders filed and what is big donors are showing.
Even all his expenses do not add up correctly to what he is reporting.
He's also refused to comply with Federal Law that mandates they have to make all their campaign spending and income public and accurate in filing.

He's refusing to comply with the law claiming it favors Hillary and the Establishment.
He also claims the Federal Election Commissions demands are being orchestrated by Hillary.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /80999298/


Sanders is also against raising money for the Down Ticket Democrats, even if he gets the nomination.
He claims they should raise their own damn money, even if it means they are outspent by Republicans who have down ticket money.
He also claims he shouldn't have to raise money for the DNC like every other candidate has done to date.

He claims the DNC is out to get him, despite them giving in to all of his demands as of now.

I mean we were given Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Carson, Kaisach, Rubio, JEB, Carly, O'Mally's last 7 years of tax returns.
But Sanders is refusing to do so because of Hillary!

Why won't he follow traditional like every presidential candidate since 1960.

Here is what Hillary is doing for the Democratic party.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/c ... ies-222670

She is using most of all money raised on her campaign so far in a money laundering scheme with the DNC. She is a selfish b*tch who is pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. She says one thing then does another, in typical lying politician fashion.



Bernie Sanders has brought in a huge batch of new voters, they can be Democratic voters if Hillary and the DNC take the opportunity to welcome them. If they instead turn their backs on them and their concerns about big money in politics, endless war, living wages, etc. then that is the Democratic party's fault for flying their middle finger in the faces of this new batch of voters. That is not the voters fault at all.

Democrats and Republicans need to wake up to the change in political winds that is rising in America. They can either join in it or be run over by it. The choice is theirs to make.

Sanders is more selfish.
He says winning the nomination is all due to him and no one else.



True Democrats and Republicans regularly do co-funding and money distribution efforts with their national and state committees it's legal.
Cruz and Hillary are both doing it.
Obama did it each time he ran for President.
Bush II did it each time he ran
Kerry did it...

This "scheme" goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson.

Seriously you need to wake up and stop reading all the propaganda that Sanders puts out.

There is no way the DNC, Hillary, Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Harry Reed, Nancy Polosi, RBG, Joe Biden, the Governor of Virgina, and other Democrat is going to convince Sanders following to vote if he doesn't win.

They are just in it for Sanders and believe everyone else is "evil".
Trump has the best chance of gaining an endorsement from Sanders and get his supporters to vote for him and his allies.

I mean Sanders supporters hate Obama, Hillary, Bill, Elizabeth Warren, Harry Reed, Nancy Polosi, RBG, Joe Biden, Bloomberg etc...
They are literally foaming at the mouth with hate to the point they make Trump and Cruz seem docile and innocent.

Sanders supporters are known to hack anyone who doesn't agree with them, they've committed violence against Hillary and Trump supporters, They've disrupted Hillary and Trump rallies, They've claimed to have done other unspeakable acts on Reddit and other sites against those they disagree with.

They've even leaked voters lists with addresses, phone numbers, emails and names encouraging people to attack and kill if necessary to get Bernie to office.

Seriously go see what they are up to on Reddit (the main online base for Sanders) and other sites.

People are rebelling against the rigged system; they see that interests of Wall Street, the Military Industrial Complex, and pretty much anything you can put Big in front of are put before them and young people more than anybody can see the future that awaits them.

That's what they said in 1832, that what they said in the 1850s, that what they said in the early 1900s, that what they said during the 1930s, they even mass protested against it in the 1960s.

I mean the U.S. Babyboomers were really close to actually changing the system, but gave up once they were offered enough money.

Got anything to back this up with? I'm not sure what the hell you are even trying to say here.



It's legal doesn't change the fact that Hillary is touting herself as helping down ticket democrats while in reality she is redistributing 99% of that money back to her own campaign, therefor the states get jack diddly for their party coffers, and in some cases it is actually hurting those states. That's NOT helping your own party like she would like people to believe she is doing.



Sanders supporters want a better life for themselves. They are sick of the corrupt establishment backed, corporate bought candidates who only want the American people's votes so that they can get themselves in office only to go to work for those corporations who paid them heavily to get them elected while turning their backs on the American people who voted for them.

If it wasn't for the corrupt congress we currently have America might be the great place they keep trying to tell us that it is. In reality jobs have gone over seas, our middle class has been gutted, wages have gone down the toilet, you can't hardly find a good paying job with a living wage, homelessness is the new American epidemic.

I'd think that these things would be worth fighting for. Maybe these millennials are all dreaming when they believe that they deserve a better life than their parents were able to provide for them.

Hillary is bought and paid for by wall street, oil companies, corporate media just to name a few. They have all legally bribed her with their large donations. They will get big returns for their investment on her if she gets in the white house.



While I don't condone this sort of thing, it is politics, and politics is a nasty business. A Hillary Clinton super pac paid one million dollars for online trolls to attack Bernie supporters. Besides, if I was to look around the internet well enough I could easily find Hillary supporters who are calling for Sanders head on a spike. So I feel no need in wasting my time doing so...



Don't you EVER, and I mean EVER try to tell me what I need to do!

I don't respond well to talk like that.

Look, we have both seen and read things that the other person has not seen and read. We both believe what we believe.

My sources aren't corporate media since their bias is showing more this election cycle than any other election ever. Besides, only 6% of Americans actually trust corporate media. At least they rate higher than congress which has an approval rating of just 4%.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 35cb6fec58

A 4% approval rating. Could you imagine working for a company with that kind of customer rating? Of course not, they'd be out of business in no time flat. Yet, somehow politicians keep getting re-elected with such poor job approval. Seems like a broken system we have in American politics.