Hey kids: Don't be a sucker for socialism

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Capitalists love the working class because they're so easy to exploit. Socialists love the working class for the same reason.

Most people have never tried doing their work. Most people are stuck doing other people's work. This is why most people are alienated from the work they're doing. Because it's not their work.

Most people have the capacity to enjoy their own work, if they ever got a chance to do it.

My own work wouldn’t put food on the table. That’s just the way it is.

I work with court documents. They are interesting. They are not my own work. Oh well.

but they exploit me more nicely, at least when they ram it home they kiss me afterwards.

You are playing semantic games.
Ok, I'll play along.

Most people would rather be doing something else other than work, given the choice.
E.G.
-Going to the beach.
-Playing computer games.
-Having philosophical discussions in an autistic forum.

We here in Australia are encroaching an economical problem in terms of the number of taxpayers Vs those on the pension or who are on welfare.
Aging population factors into this.
A huge proportion of accumulated taxpayer's money goes towards servicing both of these.
Even though the government is encouraging the immigration of workers, those capable of work with a socially parasitic attitude of entitlement are a burden that is increasingly difficult to sustain.

I shouldn't have to say this but: People who need welfare or are on the pension should be looked after.
Those who abuse the system, not so much.
Simples.

No, I was trying to make a point about people being alienated from their work. The rest of your reply has nothing to do with the point I was making. You created the semantic game yourself and you're playing it against yourself.

I'm glad we both agree we'll be exploited no matter what. To be honest I believe exploitation goes deeper than what type of government we have. It is a part of the human psyche. That's why it manifests in all forms of government.

And where would you put aspies?

if only it weren't so GD hard to find decent work for a living. good pleasant jobs go to the lucky and strong only. the rest of us must go to various kinds of work hell until we drop prematurely from work hell stress.

They all want us to think working is a privilege.

Sorry.
I misunderstood where you were coming from.
It happens. <shrug>

Pax.

"How long is a piece of string?"

Some aspies can find work.
(I was lucky, admittedly, but I was able to work full time for almost 30 years through sheer determination. It was not easy going, let me tell you. I'd rather kark myself rather than go through that again. )
And some can't due to the degree of their autism and/or the economic climate.
Simples.

BTW:
I always had the desire to find work.
When I was young I was on social security for 6 months.
I was beaming when I told the social security worker that I found work.
As a result, he was beaming due to my enthusiasm.
Clearly, he wasn't used to seeing someone so happy finding a job. <chuckle>



For me it was.
I knew it would help me to get a-head, a-tail, a-torso, etc.
It really depends on attitude. <shrug>

I was lucky:
-I worked for around 30 years straight.

I felt privileged:
-Because I had that job for all that time.

It was extremely tough going for those 30 years.
I'm now in early retirement, still alive (I think), and hopefully have a few more years in me, cross hooves.

No problem

If you redistributed all of Walmart's 14.4 billion in shareholder profit in fiscal year 2018 to all of its 2.2 million global employees, before taxes every employee would have gotten around 6,500 that year.

There's nothing inherent about having shareholders that makes the company capable of producing this revenue. It merely determines where the profit goes. Before someone goes on about their stock sharing programs, it is quantifiable that literal majorities of Walmart's profits goes to individuals who earned great wealth through generational inheritance and not through personal merit.

The only question is regarding the financing of new ventures, and to be frank with you a lot of companies become successful before they release their IPO.

My proposition is not to equitably distribute profit within a company but to centralize ALL profit of public companies as state revenue to provide immense social services. The state should have objective, expert reviewed algorithmic metrics to assess the value of a company (and its potential for sustainability) and offer compensation to owners who wish to "cash out" from their ventures as opposed to permitting these individuals to sell portions of their venture to private individuals.

"We can't afford it" is an asinine response to socialist proposals. What they really mean is "over my dead body will you rewrite property laws to disenfranchise my trust fund children and force them to fairly compete with the working class children."

As a tangent, I wish a lot of other socialists would stop conflating capitalism with commerce. Being anti-commercial is dumb. Being against oligarchy is not dumb, and they hold power through property laws (which is what capitalism, in its narrowest definition, amounts to: the sacralization of the rights of property and familial entitlement, enabling a very particular form of finance)