State Deparment IG: audit faults Hillary in email probe

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25 May 2016, 12:42 pm

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Clinton disregarded various State Department guidelines for avoiding cybersecurity risks, an internal audit found Wednesday, faulting her and past secretaries of state for weak information management.

The inspector general's 78-page analysis, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, cites "longstanding, systemic weaknesses" related to the agency's communications. These started before Clinton's appointment as secretary of state, but her failures were singled out as more serious.

Despite guidelines to the contrary and never seeking approval, Clinton used mobile devices to conduct official business on her personal email account and private server. She never sought approval from senior information officers, who would have refused the request because of security risks, the audit said.

"By Secretary Clinton's tenure, the department's guidance was considerably more detailed and more sophisticated," it concluded. "Secretary Clinton's cybersecurity practices accordingly must be evaluated in light of these more comprehensive directives."


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e9cf125b ... ton-emails

This is the State Department internal investigation not the FBI one which has more evidence, more witnesses, and much broader scope on top of being an actual criminal investigation

Hillary if she cared at all about her party instead of her own personal ambition she would drop out



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25 May 2016, 1:29 pm

If the State Department really cared about what it's employees would have done, they would have taken action and asked Congress to pass the regarding laws.

She did the same thing Condi Rice and Colin Powell did when they were Secretary of State.

No one was up in arms of Dick Chenney used his own private server, email and phone to do business as VP.
Hell he did it to hide his shady business deals from the public and government.

The whole Bush II Administration was "encouraged" to use private communications, because of constitutional protections and to stop the opposition from find out.

Most of the members of Congress, higher ups in the FBI, the top brass of the military and DoD are still doing what Hillary is being publicly held accountable for.

If Public and Congress truly cared, they would have implemented the changes after Bill Clinton left office.

Hillary isn't going to get punished, because she broke no laws and the GOP do not want to open the can of worms on this issue due to it causing them more trouble than her.

Trump isn't going to drop out over his shady tax and business doings.
His indictment over Trump University and other business deals from NY and The Feds won't force him out either.

Ted Cruz won't be investigated and found guilty for violating campaign and election laws, even though he is guilty for it.

Sanders won't drop out despite his horrible doings and his campaigns shady doings.
He even got caught trying to commit double speak on The View interview yesterday and refused to call out his campaign and supporters for their violent doings when Joy and Whoppie pressed him on it.


The point is most are "guilty" of something in the Congress and top brass at the federal government.

Now if any new employee, new elected or appointed member of the Federal Government, and/or someone taking a new post in the government uses private communications and devices for government work will be in violation of the law.
The law went into effect on January 1st 2013.


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25 May 2016, 1:35 pm

Just wait until the FBI recommends indictment

Hillary deliberately skirted open government laws to avoid FOIA requests

she's going down!

also Condi Rice did not use email and Colin Powell used secure channels for classified information, Hillary did not and set up a home server that the state department didn't even know about



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25 May 2016, 1:36 pm

But...but..uh...

BENGHAZI!! !!

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25 May 2016, 2:07 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Just wait until the FBI recommends indictment

Hillary deliberately skirted open government laws to avoid FOIA requests

she's going down!

also Condi Rice did not use email and Colin Powell used secure channels for classified information, Hillary did not and set up a home server that the state department didn't even know about

The DOJ and FBI have both said they don't have enough on her to indict her, because she broke no laws.
They just wanted to talk to her and get her full side of the story.
Hillary never sent classified information from her private server and email at the time.
Many of the emails and contents were reclassified to classified last year and 2014 (this happens on a regular basis) by the State Department, though the CIA, FBI, and NSA have them listed as declassified (You can get them from CIA, FBI, and NSA).
She did receive a few bits of classified information from other government officials, who used private email to send it to her (they aren't going to be touched by the government even though it was perfectly legal).

The top brass at the State Department knew she was using private email and her personal blackberry to do government work. They gave their the approval to do it.
They knew she was storing her emails privately and didn't care.
They didn't want to archive the emails.

They only went through her emails and archived them because GOP Congress ordered them in 2014, in order to take her down as admitted by GOP on This Week with George a few months ago.

Condi Rice did a lot of shady stuff, including using her BlackBerry for all her government work at both cabinet posts.

Colin Powell did a lot of shady stuff, including according to Chenney falsified intel on IRAQ to start the IRAQ WAR.
Chenney has been open about the shady and illegal doings of Powell, blaming him for the whole Iraq War.

I don't like Hillary either, but I'm not going to crucify her for ineptness of the State Department and Congress and the politicization of the whole thing by her enemies.


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25 May 2016, 2:11 pm

Also from the report


"The 83-page report reviews email practices by five secretaries of state and generally concludes that record keeping has been spotty for years.

It was particularly critical of former secretary of state Colin Powell — who has acknowledged publicly that he used a personal email account to conduct business — concluding that he too failed to follow department policy designed to comply with public-record laws."

Also the NSA and FBI repeatedly denied Clinton's request for a government secured Blackberry and other secured devices to do her work on.
(which is in the report)

lastly
http://www.federaltimes.com/story/gover ... /30478493/

The U.S. State Department has had it's servers and email system hacked many times in the past few years, with the biggest hacking and installing of malware on the servers and email system last year.
Random people have been getting stuff from State Department servers and emails for the past few years now, with over 25M+ and counting sent out.

We don't know if anything of importance has been stolen in the process.

We don't even know if the State Department servers and email system have been secured yet...


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25 May 2016, 2:46 pm

I think Hilary's bigger problem is that instead of distancing herself from her husband, she makes him a bigger part of her campaign. It's embarrassing that the potential first female president has to hold her husband's hand.



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25 May 2016, 2:51 pm

I hope Hillary doesn't get indicted, beating her will be so easy and so satisfying



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25 May 2016, 2:59 pm

I suspect that Hillary could be captured on video strangling kittens and xenocity would assure us that the kittens deserved it.



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25 May 2016, 3:05 pm

also about Colin Powell

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Investigators also concluded that former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who used a personal email as well, likewise did not follow record keeping laws. However, the report notes significant difference in their circumstances: During Powell's tenure, State's capacity to email people outside the department was limited. He said he needed it to reach people who didn't work at State. The IG also noted that he used email less frequently than Clinton and top technology officials were aware of his personal email use.



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Clinton and her top staff did not cooperate with the investigation, which was requested by current Secretary of State John Kerry. She, her former chief of staff Cheryl Mills and top deputies Jake Sullivan and Huma Abedin are among those who declined interviews. Kerry and his predecessors Powell, Madeleine Albright, and Condoleezza Rice, however, did answer questions.



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25 May 2016, 3:09 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
I suspect that Hillary could be captured on video strangling kittens and xenocity would assure us that the kittens deserved it.


No, that would be the trump supporters. He already said he could shoot someone and his supporters would still support him. Can you even name a position that he has actually been consistent on? He said Hillary would make a great president, then switched and claimed she was evil. That's one hell of a flip flop.

And what evidence do you have to refute the thorough and well sourced response of Xenocity? Or are you just trolling.



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25 May 2016, 3:27 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
I suspect that Hillary could be captured on video strangling kittens and xenocity would assure us that the kittens deserved it.


No, that would be the trump supporters. He already said he could shoot someone and his supporters would still support him. Can you even name a position that he has actually been consistent on? He said Hillary would make a great president, then switched and claimed she was evil. That's one hell of a flip flop.

And what evidence do you have to refute the thorough and well sourced response of Xenocity? Or are you just trolling.

he didn't source one thing what are you talking about? What he said about Colin Powell is a bending of the truth

just wait until the FBI investigation is over

there is a serious PUBLIC CORRUPTION question with Hillary with Clinton foundation, this rabbit hole goes much deeper.


www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary- ... rry-223559

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“In November 2010, Secretary Clinton and her Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations discussed the fact that Secretary Clinton’s emails to Department employees were not being received,” the report said. “The Deputy Chief of Staff emailed the Secretary that “we should talk about putting you on state email or releasing your email address to the department so you are not going to spam.” In response, the Secretary wrote, “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”


I wonder why?

Give money to Bill, get favors from Hill!

She went out of her way to have private email server at her house and she tries to say it was for convenience?

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25 May 2016, 3:49 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
I suspect that Hillary could be captured on video strangling kittens and xenocity would assure us that the kittens deserved it.


No, that would be the trump supporters. He already said he could shoot someone and his supporters would still support him. Can you even name a position that he has actually been consistent on? He said Hillary would make a great president, then switched and claimed she was evil. That's one hell of a flip flop.

And what evidence do you have to refute the thorough and well sourced response of Xenocity? Or are you just trolling.

he didn't source one thing what are you talking about? What he said about Colin Powell is a bending of the truth

just wait until the FBI investigation is over

there is a serious PUBLIC CORRUPTION question with Hillary with Clinton foundation, this rabbit hole goes much deeper.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/h ... rry-223559

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“In November 2010, Secretary Clinton and her Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations discussed the fact that Secretary Clinton’s emails to Department employees were not being received,” the report said. “The Deputy Chief of Staff emailed the Secretary that “we should talk about putting you on state email or releasing your email address to the department so you are not going to spam.” In response, the Secretary wrote, “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”


I wonder why?

Give money to Bill, get favors from Hill!

She went out of her way to have private email server at her house and she tries to say it was for convenience?

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You're right I was mistaken with the source part of my comment. I stand by everything else. And besides what he has written has been far more credible than what you have posted on the subject so far. But you know where I stand so getting in an argument about it seems pretty moot. We'll just have to wait and see.



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25 May 2016, 3:58 pm

Of course you find it more credible, you agree with it! :lol:

This report is an ominous sign for Hillary, this was just an internal review by the state department just about her use of emails who had her back whereas the FBI is a full scale criminal investigation with over a hundred agents working on it



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25 May 2016, 4:03 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Of course you find it more credible, you agree with it! :lol:

This report is an ominous sign for Hillary, this was just an internal review by the state department just about her use of emails who had her back whereas the FBI is a full scale criminal investigation with over a hundred agents working on it


You know I like you Jacoby. I think you're wrong a lot ad you leave me feeling incredulous at times but you really are a great example of your side. And I mean that in a positive way. I think you and my uncle would get along great.

Sorry had a little trouble getting that written the way I wanted it.



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25 May 2016, 4:23 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Of course you find it more credible, you agree with it! :lol:

This report is an ominous sign for Hillary, this was just an internal review by the state department just about her use of emails who had her back whereas the FBI is a full scale criminal investigation with over a hundred agents working on it


You know I like you Jacoby. I think you're wrong a lot ad you leave me feeling incredulous at times but you really are a great example of your side. And I mean that in a positive way. I think you and my uncle would get along great.

Sorry had a little trouble getting that written the way I wanted it.


I appreciate that. You know in between being called stupid, a xenophobe, racist, sexist, uneducated, brainwashed, a fascist, a Nazi, a communist(this one really makes me laugh), or just plain nuts I was really starting to think people didn't like me. :roll: :P