On Clinton's nomination
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Part of me just wants to say the following not in quotation marks: "Give up. People like George Bush and Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will always win no matter what you do. They get elected, and people just line up to whatever they say, no matter what downward spiral the world might be in or vague threats get inflated while real problems go unsolved. It's all a bleak joke, and we get the butt of the punchline." But I don't want to just end with that. I never felt Sanders was a messiah-type like so many of my Facebook acquaintances would say, more like a spark, someone who could inspire hope, make someone realize they can criticize the whole system. Like Obama, but with less chance of selling out. And I am tired of him, and most politicians, want to do more with the time I've got on Earth for fixing things for at least a few hundred years. I want a world where species aren't constantly dying off, where humans are far a monolithic group, of peace and conflict resolving than war and extremism, etc. A time of new ideas in a brave new world. Again, off on a tangent, but still, I feel like there's a lot more possibility now that Sanders can't win. People can go after now the Democratic establishment, big businesses, a lot more hope for something more successful than the Occupy movement, a revolution that never was and instead crashed and burned. Just because Clinton and Trump are the nominees doesn't mean you have to like them or live with them. in fact, be more rebellious. Criticize and hate and question those two as much as possible, don't give them a free pass at all, show that there is something wrong and phony about this world as seen by its elections. Be the enemy of those that say "this is all fine, in fact it's ideal". Let your imagination soar, and your inquiry and search for knowledge as well. And also, I think there really should be a movement to draft Elizabeth Warren at the July convention, she'd be great.
Actually Trump is the anti establishment candidate who was predicted and expected to lose because the establishment was going to crush him.
Jeb Bush was supposed to win the GOP nominee and have the establishment backing him.
Obama was the anti establishment candidate that defeated Clinton in 2008 by a smaller margin than she beat Sanders.
Obama had only been in the U.S. Senate for a few years (his first elected post), when he beat Hillary.
Obama had the deck stacked against him and eeked out a victory in 2008, defeating to members of the establishment.
Hillary beat Sanders by wider margin under the very same rules Obama beat her with in 2008.
The point is Trump is the embodiment of the Anti Establishment movement, much like Obama was in 2008.
If you hate the establishment, you must vote for Trump
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Diabolikal
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Jeb Bush was supposed to win the GOP nominee and have the establishment backing him.
Obama was the anti establishment candidate that defeated Clinton in 2008 by a smaller margin than she beat Sanders.
Obama had only been in the U.S. Senate for a few years (his first elected post), when he beat Hillary.
Obama had the deck stacked against him and eeked out a victory in 2008, defeating to members of the establishment.
Hillary beat Sanders by wider margin under the very same rules Obama beat her with in 2008.
The point is Trump is the embodiment of the Anti Establishment movement, much like Obama was in 2008.
If you hate the establishment, you must vote for Trump
Not really in the mood for trolling and troll logic right now. Plus, if Trump is so anti-establishment, why is he on all the news networks getting constant coverage?
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There just aren't enough angry white racists to elect Mr. Trump to the presidency.
There are, however, plenty of angry non-whites and women to elect Mrs. Clinton to the presidency.
My money's on Mrs. Clinton to win.
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The only way *any* GOP candidate--even a moderate one--can win an election is to get rid of all the Christians, be even further to the left than the Democrats, make it illegal to make more than $20,000/year, declare that anyone who isn't a white, straight male is above the law, and declare that any criticism of anybody who isn't a white, straight male is automatic prosecutable hate speech, even if the criticism is not because of that person's demographic.
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author Jerome Corsi gave the trump campaign an advance copy of his new book "partners in crime- the Clintons' Scheme to Monetize the White House for Personal Profit" - and trump this coming Monday, june 13, 2016 will give a speech largely sourced from this book, at the Clintons' expense. who wants to guess how it will turn out?
Here is the goals I used:
"Getting rid of Christians": No more bathroom laws, no more bullying, etc.
"Be further to the left than the Dems": If you're conservative, you are useless.
"Can't make more than $20,000": No more 1%.
"Above the law": No more white cops mistreating minorities.
"Hate speech law": No more hurt feelings or bullying.
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If you hate the establishment, you must vote for Trump
Trump literally spends his time insulting minorities and people who he feels aren't good enough. Autistic like people aren't going to do well in Trumps America. If you want a repeat of school yard bullying then vote for Trump
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My concern goes beyond that. Bob Wright founder of Autism Speaks has endorsed Trump and is reported to be friend of The Donald. Trump's spokeswomen has worked for Autism Speaks and Cure Autism Now.
Wrong Planet thread about this topic
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