Should I renounce Christianity?

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14 Jun 2016, 5:11 am

I have been a Christian all my life, but I tend to take a rather philosophical approach to my faith, rather than focus on the judgmental aspect or the OT laws.

However, in wake of what happened in Orlando, I am worried that I will be lumped with the extremists such as WBC, Pat Robertson, Timothy McVeigh, and all those who committed violence against Planned Parenthood. I am worried that my beliefs will lead me on the road to social pariahdom, even though I am often passive with them.

Should I renounce my beliefs?


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14 Jun 2016, 5:33 am

That wouldn't make sense...now would it?

Unless you stopped believing in Jesus. If you stopped believing in Jesus....then that's another matter.

What you're talking about is a radical fringe element. Why would they associate you with that element just because you believe in Jesus? Christians come in all shapes and sizes. There's a vast array of sects with different beliefs. Just don't join the "judgmental" type sects. That's all you have to do.



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14 Jun 2016, 5:42 am

From Pew:

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Source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -marriage/

In other words... there are a lot of LGBT-affirming Christian denominations in the US...



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14 Jun 2016, 7:35 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I have been a Christian all my life, but I tend to take a rather philosophical approach to my faith, rather than focus on the judgmental aspect or the OT laws.

However, in wake of what happened in Orlando, I am worried that I will be lumped with the extremists such as WBC, Pat Robertson, Timothy McVeigh, and all those who committed violence against Planned Parenthood. I am worried that my beliefs will lead me on the road to social pariahdom, even though I am often passive with them.

Should I renounce my beliefs?


No, don't let radicals and extremists ruin your religion. It's them who perverted the religion. And if someone can't tell the difference between the average everyday Christian and these lunatics then it's them who has the problem.

And I would say thing to Muslims as well.



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14 Jun 2016, 7:48 am

That's a personal decision. Why are you asking others (some Atheist) what you should do?


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14 Jun 2016, 7:57 am

I think I gave an okay answer--being an Atheist has no relevance here.



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14 Jun 2016, 8:06 am

Religion is a very personal thing and I think he needs to make this decision on his own. It sounds like he is vulnerable right now and could be swayed if the wrong person came along. One can't let others make such an important decision for them. I just don't understand how an Atheist could understand since they don't believe God actually exists.


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14 Jun 2016, 8:08 am

You should believe in what you want to believe in, what everyone else thinks is irrelevant. Why do they even need to know your beliefs?

Personally I think it's a waste of time but that's my lack of belief talking and that is my own personal choice.


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14 Jun 2016, 8:16 am

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Religion is a very personal thing and I think he needs to make this decision on his own. It sounds like he is vulnerable right now and could be swayed if the wrong person came along. One can't let others make such an important decision for them. I just don't understand how an Atheist could understand since they don't believe God actually exists.


It's easy for an atheist to say that he should do what he thinks is best and that he should disregard the lunatics who give his beliefs a bad name.



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14 Jun 2016, 8:18 am

I'm not trying to tell the guy what to do.

I'm just saying that, in essence, he shouldn't let one bad apple spoil the bunch, so to speak.

I'm an atheist advising the guy to stay a Christian....and I'm getting criticized for it? LOL



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14 Jun 2016, 8:20 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm not trying to tell the guy what to do.

I'm just saying that, in essence, he shouldn't let one bad apple spoil the bunch, so to speak.

I'm an atheist advising the guy to stay a Christian....and I'm getting criticized for it? LOL


I'm agnostic and I gave the same advice.



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14 Jun 2016, 8:23 am

I agree...you gave the same advice as me.

I happen to know that all Christians, Muslims, etc. come in all shapes and sizes.

I happen to believe that people run the gamut, in general.

I happen to believe one should not renounce a whole belief system because of the actions of a few idiots.



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14 Jun 2016, 9:08 am

I would never dream of becoming an extremist, and I condemn their actions to the nth degree. But I am worried about how I am perceived by others.

I am mostly worried about how Christians as a whole will be perceived after Orlando, much like how many people perceived the entire Islamic faith after 9/11.


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14 Jun 2016, 9:10 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I have been a Christian all my life, but I tend to take a rather philosophical approach to my faith, rather than focus on the judgmental aspect or the OT laws.

However, in wake of what happened in Orlando, I am worried that I will be lumped with the extremists such as WBC, Pat Robertson, Timothy McVeigh, and all those who committed violence against Planned Parenthood. I am worried that my beliefs will lead me on the road to social pariahdom, even though I am often passive with them.

Should I renounce my beliefs?

There are good and bad reasons to be an atheist. This is a bad one. Just reform your damn religion already.



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14 Jun 2016, 9:17 am

In my opinion, rational people would see the difference between extremists and most Christians.

If somebody thinks every Christian is an extremist, that somebody should get his/her head examined and/or go out in the world and meet actual people.



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14 Jun 2016, 9:19 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I would never dream of becoming an extremist, and I condemn their actions to the nth degree. But I am worried about how I am perceived by others.

I am mostly worried about how Christians as a whole will be perceived after Orlando, much like how many people perceived the entire Islamic faith after 9/11.


As long as there continues to be people like you calling themselves Christians I think you'll be just fine.

Even though a lot of innocent Muslims are treated badly because of things done supposedly in the name of Islam they still have a lot of non-Muslims who will defend them.

And +1 to Kraftie.