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The_Blonde_Alien
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03 Jul 2016, 10:45 pm

I've been thinking about the Brexit for a while now, and then I remembered this newspaper article from Fallout 3.

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Isn't this too similar to be dismissed as an insignificant coincidence? Could Bethesta (the developers of Fallout 3) have accidentally predicted future?

And could it mean that Nuclear war is imminent? 8O

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03 Jul 2016, 11:04 pm

Nah it just means that one country is giving the finger to the EU. Currency Unions have failed in the past and will fail in the future. There will be some instability, but nothing cataclysmic.


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04 Jul 2016, 12:34 am

Beginning of the end of the EU most definitely, the current international world order seems to shifting as it always has thru history.

The biggest threat we have of nuclear war at this time is between the NATO and Russia with the US/Russia having more weapons pointed at each other than the rest of the world combined a couple times over. NATO is a relic of a bygone era and I think this rebellion against globalism starting with the disintegration of the EU may have the added benefit removing the obstacles of normalizing our relations with Russia or at least that is my hope. If America and Russia could call themselves allies then the world would be a much safer place.



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04 Jul 2016, 5:00 am

Jacoby wrote:
The biggest threat we have of nuclear war at this time is between the NATO and Russia with the US/Russia having more weapons pointed at each other than the rest of the world combined a couple times over.

We all know that nuclear war or any kind of actual war won't happen between Russia and NATO. Even a war with Ukraine was very expensive and you can't compare Ukraine with any other European nation. Apart from Belarus no country in Europe is as pro-Russian as Ukraine. Besides, Russia has still to recover from oil price drop and a war with Syria.

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NATO is a relic of a bygone era and I think this rebellion against globalism starting with the disintegration of the EU may have the added benefit removing the obstacles of normalizing our relations with Russia or at least that is my hope. If America and Russia could call themselves allies then the world would be a much safer place.

EU is not an obstacle. EU is the main supporter of a good relationship with Russia. Germany alone trades more with Russia than US.



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04 Jul 2016, 6:18 am

To the OP. The UK is pulling out of the EU not the UN; there is a big difference, though the idiots at Fox news reported that we were pulling out of the UN! :lol:



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04 Jul 2016, 8:28 am

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13 Jul 2016, 9:46 am

Jacoby wrote:
Beginning of the end of the EU most definitely, the current international world order seems to shifting as it always has thru history.

The biggest threat we have of nuclear war at this time is between the NATO and Russia with the US/Russia having more weapons pointed at each other than the rest of the world combined a couple times over. If America and Russia could call themselves allies then the world would be a much safer place.


Haha.. yes and the Brits were longing for a Nato agreement to disuse the Trident renewal management scheme, due to be re-elected on Monday. As far as super powers go, a safer place for negotiations, posing a more challenging obstacle for going the distance; is like sharing tea with a scandalous Hitler and Mussolini long after Nazi fascism ruled the day.



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13 Jul 2016, 10:54 am

I was watching some WWII stuff the other day

to quote Winston Churchill "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning." :D



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13 Jul 2016, 10:55 am

The beginning of the end for the EU maybe. :)


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13 Jul 2016, 12:33 pm

Fallout has predicted nothing. In its core its the plot of any postnuclear fiction. Ressources dwindle, 2 superpowers engage in a "classic" war over the remaining ressources ending it all with a nuclear holocaust, destroying the whole planet. As almost any fiction it has some truth in it, but no can can predict future and tell wich way humanity will destroy itself in the end. Could be ASI (artifacial superintelligence) that decides humanity stands in the way of achieving its programmed main goal & rotting us out, could be nuclear war, could be a dramatic change in climate, could be another superasteroid of wich we havent found out yet. There are so many ways for humans to go extinct, nobody knows wich one will be our end really. Only thing relativly safe guess is that we WILL go extinct, and i guess its somewhere in the next 500-1000 years.

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13 Jul 2016, 2:18 pm

Tiankay wrote:
Fallout has predicted nothing. In its core its the plot of any postnuclear fiction. Ressources dwindle, 2 superpowers engage in a "classic" war over the remaining ressources ending it all with a nuclear holocaust, destroying the whole planet. As almost any fiction it has some truth in it, but no can can predict future and tell wich way humanity will destroy itself in the end. Could be ASI (artifacial superintelligence) that decides humanity stands in the way of achieving its programmed main goal & rotting us out, could be nuclear war, could be a dramatic change in climate, could be another superasteroid of wich we havent found out yet. There are so many ways for humans to go extinct, nobody knows wich one will be our end really. Only thing relativly safe guess is that we WILL go extinct, and i guess its somewhere in the next 500-1000 years.

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I this quote from The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion sums every post-apocalyptic author in a nutshell:

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"Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
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13 Jul 2016, 6:57 pm

James Howard Kunstler has been pointing out for years that this whole s**t show is coming to a slow, mostly non-violent end, a return to pre-industrial society based on agriculture and local production of goods. This is due to the end of the age of cheap energy.



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14 Jul 2016, 12:25 am

The UN is actually fairly powerless in preventing wars... two countries objected and so they couldn't even have a resolution on Syria.



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19 Jul 2016, 12:45 pm

The U.N is power hungry and needs its own sanctions re-tested, especially where certain speeches and emails are concerned.



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19 Jul 2016, 3:22 pm

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oh no. Turkey will rise on it's own accord, while us Germans will become a bit friendlier to russia. the US will invest heavily in Poland because of that. the rest of the EU will go do its own thing and tall into relative obscurity.
oh, and the EU will keep existing, just no one will care, whereas the Euro will collapse togethe with Deutsche Bank. that'll happen within the next 2 years btw, as italy's collapse progresses.
britain in, britain out, - there's not really any scenarion in which that is relevant for anyone but the british banking sector, and a lot of people who are now scared of getting kicked out of the country, which, really, is unlikely to bappen.


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20 Jul 2016, 8:49 am

shlaifu wrote:
britain in, britain out, - there's not really any scenarion in which that is relevant for anyone but the british banking sector,

And the 60m+ people who depend on it? The banking sector directly employs 4% of the population and provides 11% of the tax receipts. If it gets in trouble then the rest of the economy notices.

Let's not forget all the other industries which depend on the EU. Agriculture, for example, relies heavily on farm subsidies and unrestricted access to the single market.