Medical Marijuana Card Holders - No Guns For You!

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01 Sep 2016, 3:07 am

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/31/ap ... lders.html

This is just the beginning of the Left going after the guns.


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01 Sep 2016, 3:22 am

According to this article, there is a question on the Federal background check that asks if the person has a medical marijuana card. It doesn't matter then if marijuana is legal in that state - Federal law says marijuana is illegal in every state.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... itutional/


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01 Sep 2016, 3:31 am

The way I see it, they are trying to make law abiding citizens who are using marijuana legally because of an illness turn into law breakers - for one to keep their second amendment rights, you'll have to purchase marijuana through illegal means.

Does this also mean that they can seize guns that a marijuana card holder already has in their possession? Is that what comes next?


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01 Sep 2016, 8:32 am

The Obama administration is looking to grab guns wherever they can, they've also gone after SSI recipients. They also are very wary about returning veterans owning guns too. This why electing Trump is important because if Hillary becomes president then she will be coming for the guns and you better believe that!

Marijuana will likely be legal recreationally in this state and all over the west coast very soon, they won't be able to discriminate against medical patients or how could they? I don't think this is constitutional under the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th, and 14th amendment.



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01 Sep 2016, 12:59 pm

Jacoby wrote:
The Obama administration is looking to grab guns wherever they can, they've also gone after SSI recipients. They also are very wary about returning veterans owning guns too. This why electing Trump is important because if Hillary becomes president then she will be coming for the guns and you better believe that!

Marijuana will likely be legal recreationally in this state and all over the west coast very soon, they won't be able to discriminate against medical patients or how could they? I don't think this is constitutional under the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th, and 14th amendment.


The article says that it is going to be upheld and that it is not against the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure it is known who has medical marijuana cards and Federal law says marijuana is illegal in EVERY state. Another reason for states to secede (and I'm not even for marijuana use).


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01 Sep 2016, 1:15 pm

I don't see the sense in that.

Also though you should be more specific....the left is a vast and varied demographic and not everyone in it holds the same opinions or views.


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01 Sep 2016, 1:18 pm

nurseangela wrote:
The way I see it, they are trying to make law abiding citizens who are using marijuana legally because of an illness turn into law breakers - for one to keep their second amendment rights, you'll have to purchase marijuana through illegal means.

Does this also mean that they can seize guns that a marijuana card holder already has in their possession? Is that what comes next?



There are states with legal recreational use...so they could also go that route instead, though the medical marijuana has cheaper prices. Or if the feds would quite being stubborn asses and decriminalize it already perhaps this wouldn't even be an issue.


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01 Sep 2016, 1:21 pm

Jacoby wrote:
The Obama administration is looking to grab guns wherever they can, they've also gone after SSI recipients. They also are very wary about returning veterans owning guns too. This why electing Trump is important because if Hillary becomes president then she will be coming for the guns and you better believe that!

Marijuana will likely be legal recreationally in this state and all over the west coast very soon, they won't be able to discriminate against medical patients or how could they? I don't think this is constitutional under the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th, and 14th amendment.


Well trump is appealing to the religious right now from what I understand, the last thing we need here is religious law. Hillary doesn't like the second amendment, Trump doesn't like the first amendment....oooh what an exciting decision.


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01 Sep 2016, 2:27 pm

infringement -- the action of limiting or undermining something.

At least one law is very specific.



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01 Sep 2016, 2:39 pm

How is this a move from the left? It's a federal judge, approved by the senate in 2010, where the Republicans all voted for this judge, and no one voted against. I agree that illegal drug users and the mentally ill should not be able to buy guns. All the more reason for legalizing MJ on the Federal level.



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01 Sep 2016, 2:52 pm

I feel that the right's answer to most every question is to take away legal personhood.

For example, when people were homeless, denizens, or on social security.

While I would rather not be beholden to any court, at any level, the globalists have said that some rights are universal to all humans.

I may review these, to see whether self medication and self defense are counted as self-determination.

As for the mentally ill, AS people keep coming up, in the news.

Tyrannies have used psychiatric treatment, to punish dissidents, accused of having 'slow schizophrenia,' and autism has been regarded as a mild form of dissociation -- literally, slow schizophrenia.

You were probably, mostly harmless, so were expecting not to be prioritized.

But, people have been prioritized on the basis of philosophy, harmless or otherwise, as it is said that having the wrong political view is like having no soul. (Mao)

What are your thoughts on pedantism and conformity. Do they seem valuable, to you, on an emotional level? Aren't you technically supposed to say yes? Do you feel distant from all of that?

I think authoritarians relate that to having no soul. To call someone autistic is now a fascist insult.



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01 Sep 2016, 11:40 pm

AspE wrote:
How is this a move from the left? It's a federal judge, approved by the senate in 2010, where the Republicans all voted for this judge, and no one voted against. I agree that illegal drug users and the mentally ill should not be able to buy guns. All the more reason for legalizing MJ on the Federal level.


Some say that Aspergers is a mental illness which would mean that you would agree that people with Asperger's should not have access to guns. I think there are some Aspies right on this site that would disagree with you - and some that are not Aspie.


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02 Sep 2016, 12:49 am

nurseangela wrote:
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How is this a move from the left? It's a federal judge, approved by the senate in 2010, where the Republicans all voted for this judge, and no one voted against. I agree that illegal drug users and the mentally ill should not be able to buy guns. All the more reason for legalizing MJ on the Federal level.


Some say that Aspergers is a mental illness which would mean that you would agree that people with Asperger's should not have access to guns. I think there are some Aspies right on this site that would disagree with you - and some that are not Aspie.

Yeah, we had that discussion once. Fortunately, "some say" is not a valid substitute for the clinical definition, which distinguishes it as a developmental disorder, not a mental illness.



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02 Sep 2016, 1:39 am

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How is this a move from the left? It's a federal judge, approved by the senate in 2010, where the Republicans all voted for this judge, and no one voted against. I agree that illegal drug users and the mentally ill should not be able to buy guns. All the more reason for legalizing MJ on the Federal level.


Some say that Aspergers is a mental illness which would mean that you would agree that people with Asperger's should not have access to guns. I think there are some Aspies right on this site that would disagree with you - and some that are not Aspie.

Yeah, we had that discussion once. Fortunately, "some say" is not a valid substitute for the clinical definition, which distinguishes it as a developmental disorder, not a mental illness.


Actually, I remembered we did sail that ship already. I found a Psychology Today article that labels Autism as a "mental health disorder". I think they will call it whatever they want depending on if it suits their purpose at that time. I know you don't care about guns, but this is another chip away against American's rights. And if you think the Feds are ever going to legalize marijuana, why would they if they can use it for their benefit - a start to a way of confiscating America's guns. Another reason to vote Trump.


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02 Sep 2016, 2:14 am

Extra stupid in light of alcohol being legal. I'd trust a stoned gun carrier over a drunk one any day.


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02 Sep 2016, 9:20 am

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Extra stupid in light of alcohol being legal. I'd trust a stoned gun carrier over a drunk one any day.

Same here.


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