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11 Sep 2016, 5:23 am

Probably it's the first Hollywood production on the Armenian holocaust?

http://asbarez.com/154898/armenian-geno ... s-trailer/



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11 Sep 2016, 5:46 am

I suspect it wont be shown in Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, etc.

You will be more familiar given that many Armenians ended up in the Levant.

It is funny how people who chastise the west for its ills, are quite happy to appease other eastern powers who continue to deny wrong doing. E.g Turkey/Japan/Russia, etc.



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11 Sep 2016, 5:50 am

Looks interesting.

But I dont think that the Turkish govt. is gonna like Hollywood for telling this truth. Which wouldnt matter to me except that right now we kinda need Turkish cooperation to crush ISIS.

Hope that they dont take it too personally! Lol!



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11 Sep 2016, 5:54 am

Turkey help ISIS by allowing oil to be smuggled. They were less concerned about ISIS, and more focused on the Kurds.

They only started worrying about ISIS, when bombs started going off in Turkey.

It is like the Pakistanis they are quite happy to get into bed with terrorist when it suits them, but when they get a bloody nose they act like it is a surprise.



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11 Sep 2016, 6:08 am

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11 Sep 2016, 7:16 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Turkey help ISIS by allowing oil to be smuggled. They were less concerned about ISIS, and more focused on the Kurds.

They only started worrying about ISIS, when bombs started going off in Turkey.

It is like the Pakistanis they are quite happy to get into bed with terrorist when it suits them, but when they get a bloody nose they act like it is a surprise.


My point exactly.



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11 Sep 2016, 12:50 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
I suspect it wont be shown in Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, etc.

You will be more familiar given that many Armenians ended up in the Levant.

It is funny how people who chastise the west for its ills, are quite happy to appease other eastern powers who continue to deny wrong doing. E.g Turkey/Japan/Russia, etc.



Those of the Pro-Russia camp are usually those who chastise the west most for its ills, it's all the same of "the Great Satan" propaganda.
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11 Sep 2016, 2:20 pm

In the case or Iran, I think we need to acknowledge more the recent history. In other cases we have apologied till the cows came home for what happened a long time ago, before most of us were born.

Those sort of apologies mean nothing, there is little point to apologising for soemthign that is centuries old. What matters is you accept the history so you don't repeat it.



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11 Sep 2016, 10:41 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Probably it's the first Hollywood production on the Armenian holocaust?

http://asbarez.com/154898/armenian-geno ... s-trailer/


I recall seeing an Indy movie a few years ago with intersecting storylines, one of which was involving a young Armenian American filmmaker and his work on the set of his Armenian genocide movie. It costarred Christopher Plummer.


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11 Sep 2016, 10:50 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Probably it's the first Hollywood production on the Armenian holocaust?

http://asbarez.com/154898/armenian-geno ... s-trailer/


Until I was an adult, I had never heard about it, and even then I stumbled upon the facts by accident.
I doubt if even 10% of Americans/Canucks/Aussies/etc... have heard.



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12 Sep 2016, 11:02 pm

Someone should force Cenk Uyger to watch this. :twisted:


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13 Sep 2016, 8:33 pm

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Someone should force Cenk Uyger to watch this. :twisted:


He doesn't seem to be the kind of person to be bothered by this. After all, his co-host is Armenian American.


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13 Sep 2016, 9:40 pm

Im amazed that so many are amazed by learning about this.

For decades my parents had a novel in their book case that they raved about called "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh" that was closely based upon the facts of the Genocide of Armenia in world war one. And about a local Armenian resistance fight in one corner of what is now Turkey near the mountain of Musa Dagh.

Never got around to reading it myself.

Just now googled it, and learned some interesting stuff from Wiki.

Turns out that the novel was written in German by a German author who was one the first people to uncover information about the genocide. Its almost like a "non fiction novel" apparently because of its narrative flow that still manages to be based closely on the facts. The year he published it was 1933 (the same year Hitler came to power in the author's own country).Ironic because Hitler is known to have remarked "who today remembers the Armenian genocide?" while he was forming his own plans for genocide.

The bestseller was soon translated into English, and...the movie rights were bought up by MGM, and work was started on making the novel into a movie.

To play the novel's main protagonist (an Armenian ex pat living in Paris who returns to the Armenian part of the Ottoman Empire sort out family stuff, but gets caught in bigger drama of war and genocide) they cast a then unknown guy named Clark Gable (he could pass for an Armenian).

So Clark Gable would have starred in what would have been the first Hollywood movie about the Armenian Holocaust, and it would have come out circa 1934.

But Sam Goldwyn eventually caved to pressure, and scrapped the project.

Take a wild guess where that pressure came from!

From the embassador from Turkey(surprise! surprise!).



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16 Sep 2016, 4:37 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
I suspect it wont be shown in Turkey, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, etc.

You will be more familiar given that many Armenians ended up in the Levant.

It is funny how people who chastise the west for its ills, are quite happy to appease other eastern powers who continue to deny wrong doing. E.g Turkey/Japan/Russia, etc.
I only know about Japan. Good to know that there's at least one person who seems to have knowledge of the truth. Their people being inhumanly brutalized in various ways by Japanese, Chinese and Korean wouldn't want to recall or say the matter regarded here tho..that would be too much to carry for them.


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