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DarthMetaKnight
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15 Oct 2016, 3:38 pm

In this thread, we will just talk about which corporations are most evil. This is just our personal opinion.

McDonald's: They give kids everything that they want but don't need. They give kids crappy food and crappier toys. They wrap all this up in cringe-inducing commercials with phony sentimentality.

ExxonMobil: They contribute to global warming.

Wal-Mart: The workers at Wal-Mart are so underpaid that they often need to rely on food stamps. That's funny becasue I always thought that the whole point of getting a job was getting off food stamps.

Halliburton: They manufacture and sell weapons of war. They also deliberately try to keep wars going in order to keep business going.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/lobbyists.html

Lockheed Martin: same as Halliburton

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15 Oct 2016, 5:10 pm

Monsanto I suppose, which was considered 'evil' (due to a monopoly on seeds)... even before it merged with a corporation of historical Nazis.



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15 Oct 2016, 5:28 pm

IBM. Logged and tagged people in the concentration camps, during the Holocaust.

DuPont produced quite a bit of the Nazi munitions before the Justice Department halted their trade with Germany in the late '30s, and also covered up the fact that teflon was mildly carcinogenic for years.

Standard Oil and Brown Brothers Harriman were other American companies that were prosecuted for violating prohibitions on trading with an enemy power in Nazi Germany, the former through selling fuel and the latter through providing banking services. All of these were pre-existing relationships that existed with Weimar Germany as well, but they certainly benefited from the increased production (and thus sales) under Hitler and made no effort to cut their ties once the country became authoritarian.

ThyssenKrupp is the body that largely funded Hitler's rise to power, and provided the steel for most of the war production.


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15 Oct 2016, 5:41 pm

Tobacco companies are worse than all previously mentioned industries in this thread... combined.



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15 Oct 2016, 5:48 pm

How so? People want tobacco, both to fill their own lungs with filth and to shove the filth into other people's lungs whether they like it or not :D


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15 Oct 2016, 5:57 pm

Union carbide (bhopal, anyone?)
Foxconn - their workers tend to jump out of windows
And with foxconn come apple, microsoft and all the others, as they are their clients, trying to push down labour costs. Evil is disseminated here, or 'liquid' as Zygmunt bauman dscribes it.

Facebook, apple, microsoft and so on also commoditize our commons, i.e. we can't live without any of their products in our society today, but we have to pay them rent to use them.

And of course, good old coca cola, for using limited ground water reserves for their production and leaving surrounding villages to dry out - old school commodification of a common, if you will.

Chiquita, for supporting civil wars.

Nike and adidas and most clothing producers for lack of supply chain management, similar to the foxconn issue

Tokyo electric for poorly equipping the clean up workers at the fukushima powerplant (but of course, the clean up personnel is hired by sub-sub-sub-sub contractors, so... Who's to blame here?....more 'liquid evil')

HSBC, who openly admit to money laundering for foreign dictators. All rhe other banks who aren't willing to swear under oath they don't....


This list could go on and on.
We haven't even touched on pharmaceuticals yet, have we?


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15 Oct 2016, 6:00 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
How so? People want tobacco, both to fill their own lungs with filth and to shove the filth into other people's lungs whether they like it or not :D

6 million deaths... every year...

Sorry for being dismissive, but many of the other companies/industries mentioned in this thread are utterly trivial and insignificant in comparison...



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15 Oct 2016, 9:09 pm

If I remember dick(h) cheney's fave pals halliburton changed their name to Academi and then Xe or something, I have read a lot about their scheming in the past. edit- no I'm thinking of Blackwater, still along the very same lines.



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15 Oct 2016, 9:14 pm

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If I remember dick(h) cheney's fave pals halliburton changed their name to Academi and then Xe or something, I have read a lot about their scheming in the past.

You're thinking Blackwater, military contractors with a really spooky name. Responsible for a few atrocities in Iraq that led to propaganda victories for anti-US Islamists, because then they could say: "see? Look what America did!"

Politicians need to read their Machiavelli. Don't rely on mercenaries to fight your wars for you. It never ends well, because they have no vested interest whatsoever in ensuring stability and may even stab you in the back if it'll net them more money.

Halliburton is mostly a reconstruction company, their interest in Iraq was the rebuilding contracts.


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15 Oct 2016, 9:17 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
How so? People want tobacco, both to fill their own lungs with filth and to shove the filth into other people's lungs whether they like it or not :D

6 million deaths... every year...

Sorry for being dismissive, but many of the other companies/industries mentioned in this thread are utterly trivial and insignificant in comparison...

Yeah, but there's a difference. The 6 million you mention are as equally culpable as the tobacco industry itself, since they made the choice to smoke. I smoked for a decade or so out of high school, I made that choice, not them.

The other corporations on the other hand, have made people sick, killed communities, and destroyed other's livelihoods and those people/communities had no choice in the matter-- economic power will overrun individual rights every single time. To me that's way worse than the 6 million because the 6 million made a choice, the others just suffered at the hands of powerful men.



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15 Oct 2016, 9:30 pm

I don't smoke or drink alcohol, but I shop at Walmart, use Facebook, and recently bought a couple of Happy Meal toys. I guess I'm going to burn in hell. :(

I guess you'll be saying Disney next. That will make me want to kill myself, only I can't because if I do I'll go to hell... "evil" sure has a really broad definition these days.



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15 Oct 2016, 9:33 pm

Pravda wrote:
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If I remember dick(h) cheney's fave pals halliburton changed their name to Academi and then Xe or something, I have read a lot about their scheming in the past.

You're thinking Blackwater, military contractors with a really spooky name. Responsible for a few atrocities in Iraq that led to propaganda victories for anti-US Islamists, because then they could say: "see? Look what America did!"

Politicians need to read their Machiavelli. Don't rely on mercenaries to fight your wars for you. It never ends well, because they have no vested interest whatsoever in ensuring stability and may even stab you in the back if it'll net them more money.

Halliburton is mostly a reconstruction company, their interest in Iraq was the rebuilding contracts.


Yes I consulted some very old notes I made and it was Blackwater I was thinking of. I also recall reading about our other good buddy Rumsfeld having a hand in getting that accursed substance Aspartame on the shelves when he was involved with Searle and Co I think the company was called, that can't be a salubrious company...



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15 Oct 2016, 9:40 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I don't smoke or drink alcohol, but I shop at Walmart, use Facebook, and recently bought a couple of Happy Meal toys. I guess I'm going to burn in hell. :(

I guess you'll be saying Disney next. That will make me want to kill myself, only I can't because if I do I'll go to hell... "evil" sure has a really broad definition these days.


Well, Disney does brainwash children...



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15 Oct 2016, 10:16 pm

All of them. A corporation is its own entity. As if it were human. The design of a corporation is the most evil. It is lacking in human accountibility for its actions. It is a legal loophole.



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15 Oct 2016, 10:25 pm

yournamehere wrote:
All of them. A corporation is its own entity. As if it were human. The design of a corporation is the most evil. It is lacking in human accountibility for its actions. It is a legal loophole.

It's actually worse than that. In the U.S. a corporation gets all the benefits of being a person, but none of the responsibility. We've granted them human rights without human consequences...they are in effect their own "creature" if you get right down to the way the law treats them.

Edit: ponder that for a second-- we've legally made entities that only have names and paper into "life". Human sanity is at it's breaking point.



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16 Oct 2016, 3:53 pm

Walmart pays more then other retailers, so you going have to add a lot of other companies to that list except Costco. Sears, target, Best Buy, jerrys, etc retail will always pay crap and treat employees as expendable to maximize profit.