'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect

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22 Nov 2016, 8:21 am

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Still trying to prove 2+2=5?

Let's try some algebra:

a = lack of renunciation of racist support
b = Trump
c = racist colleagues

(a + b)c = racism


a = untrue (also unnecessary - lack of renunciation =/= tacit approval)
c = undemonstrated

That leaves us with Trump = racist because???



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22 Nov 2016, 8:31 am

adifferentname wrote:
That leaves us with Trump = racist because???


...because of who he surrounds himself with. He gives tacit approval to racism.

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But he has told them over and over again, I don't want your endorsement. Isn't that big enough of a message from him.

Words mean nothing against actions. His choices of Sessions, Flynn and Bannon speak louder.
With Sessions and Flynn the racism is unlikely. And although Bannon is different, it is worth noting that he has also brought African Americans into his team as well.


Which African Americans?

Sessions is going to make life a lot harder for a lot of people.
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Since his election to the U.S. Senate in 1997, Sessions has supported a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, voted against reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act, and opposed expanding hate crime laws to include sexual orientation. He’s also opposed reducing mandatory minimum sentences for low-level drug offenders and voted in favor of loosening cellphone wiretapping restrictions.
Yahoo News: Trump draws mixed reactions over Sessions appointment

Flynn is a war monger.
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In August, he spoke at an event in Dallas hosted by the anti-Islamist group Act for America, calling Islam a "cancer" and a "political ideology" that "definitely hides behind being a religion."
Yahoo/Canadian Press: Flynn a frequent critic of Muslim militancy, culture



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22 Nov 2016, 9:40 am

30 weirdos including Tila Tequila are not relevant to anything



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22 Nov 2016, 9:42 am

androbot01 wrote:
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But he has told them over and over again, I don't want your endorsement. Isn't that big enough of a message from him.

Words mean nothing against actions. His choices of Sessions, Flynn and Bannon speak louder.


They are great choices

what is your issue with General Flynn, not a big enough neocon for you?



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22 Nov 2016, 10:11 am

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...because of who he surrounds himself with. He gives tacit approval to racism.


What racism?



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22 Nov 2016, 11:16 am

This is not the ordinary center-right; they are assumed to be radicals.

In Bezmenov's discussions on demoralization (Youtube), he says that radicals are purged as useful idiots, due to the risk they will eventually pose to the administration. Then, civil unrest is said to be 'normalized.'

The state may be legally blameless, through-and-through, for the provocations of an angry mob, which forced it to restore order.

Vulgar tv chef, Tony Bourdain was once heard to say that martial law was never formally declared, in one country. There were just drills in the commons.

We civilians have shelter-in-place, and the praetors have "readiness."

I think that the sentiments of logical extremists are basically true but get sugarcoated in more-palatable language.



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22 Nov 2016, 11:19 am

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What racism?

In response to the racists. :| We may be too literal, for you, here.



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22 Nov 2016, 11:28 am

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What racism?

In response to the racists. :| We may be too literal, for you, here.


"Trump is racist!"
"What racist things has he done or said?"
"Well, he didn't disavow the KKK so he MUST be racist!"
"Actually he did, but that's immaterial. How does the KKK make Trump racist?"
"Well he employs white supremacists!"
"What have these employees done that justifies labelling them white supremacists?"
"But Trump's a racist!"

And so we're stuck on a merry-go-round, cheerfully playing the same tired tune without so much as a solitary piece of supporting evidence.



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22 Nov 2016, 11:43 am

Is criminal profiling racist, or will everyone, everywhere, at all times, be presumptive terrorists / illegal aliens.



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22 Nov 2016, 12:47 pm

They want a reason for their hatred for trump besides admitting it's illogica hatred brought on by media lies. So they and the media look for anything no matter how irrelevant to say he's a racist, cause hating racists is right and so they hatred wouldn't be bad.



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22 Nov 2016, 1:01 pm

I think of the loyal Japanese-Americans, who were detained, during WW2. Was the policy racist, in that it only applied to Japanese people, or was it applied, impartially, on the grounds of national loyalty.

The answer is irreducibly-simple, if you don't consider racism to be a loaded word.



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22 Nov 2016, 3:29 pm

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Is criminal profiling racist, or will everyone, everywhere, at all times, be presumptive terrorists / illegal aliens.


No. Criminal profiling is a tool. It can be used by racists, but it is not intrinsically racist in and of itself.



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22 Nov 2016, 3:31 pm

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They want a reason for their hatred for trump besides admitting it's illogica hatred brought on by media lies. So they and the media look for anything no matter how irrelevant to say he's a racist, cause hating racists is right and so they hatred wouldn't be bad.


Mmhmm. They're looking for justification for behaving in ways that run counter to their stated morality, and require external approval to enable said bad behaviour.



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22 Nov 2016, 3:35 pm

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I think of the loyal Japanese-Americans, who were detained, during WW2. Was the policy racist, in that it only applied to Japanese people, or was it applied, impartially, on the grounds of national loyalty.

The answer is irreducibly-simple, if you don't consider racism to be a loaded word.


Like it or not, racism has become a loaded word.



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22 Nov 2016, 4:39 pm

And so it begins. Boy, these motherf*ckers are going to rue the day they let Robin live.



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22 Nov 2016, 4:42 pm

Trump is a f*cking liar. If incest would've gotten him votes, he would've stated he sleeps with his sons and daughters every f*cking night. Who's he fooling? The alt-right, maybe, but not Robin.