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Aspertastic424
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13 Jan 2017, 11:17 am

Do any of you ever feel "Empty" inside and is it a chronic thing?

Emptiness is even worse than loneliness IMO. If you are empty it means you don't really have much to give, in and of yourself, indeed don't really have a "strong sense of self." What I mean by that is that your identiy, your likes/dislikes are not terribly secure. Even worse, you can tend to depend upon other people for your happiness, and seek an idealized person to fill your crushing void.

Although I have (on paper) a successful life ( law school graduate, promise of gainful employment,loving family, true friends scattered around) I often feel empty and envious of other people.

With the advent of facebook I have been able to peer into the lives of others, obsess about them to myself like them and hate them at the same time for having the life I want or feel I should have.

Does that last statement creep you out? It should. In retrospect,given my thoughts/actions I feel I have almost flirted with this personality disorder, due to bouts of intense loneliness: https://www.psycom.net/depression.centr ... rline.html

Not in terms of how I have acted, but in terms of how I have thought. It scares and depresses me to no end that I have at times thought this way, but I am slowly but surely getting my act together.

Emptiness and lack of a "Sense of self" is huge with BPD. Fortunately I have scrabbled together one so I don't think I have it. Any thoughts?



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13 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

I get the emptiness. Honestly, I would say you are depressed.

My depression is either very destructive (Present state) or just has me shut myself out from everyone. I really wish it was the latter right now...I've done so much destruction I don't know if I can save the relationship I have held dear for almost a year.

It's good to hear you're making progress. Honestly, all of the diagnosis and disorders are difficult to pinpoint. I would just say it's depression.



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13 Jan 2017, 6:32 pm

Good greetings, Aspertastic424,

If I were to take a peek at your successful life on Facebook, I might get tempted to be envious of you:

1) law school graduate -- Sometimes I wonder whether I missed my true calling and should have become a lawyer.

2) promise of gainful employment -- Well, right now you say it's just a promise. That said, the future looks bright for you. My future? Who knows ...

3) loving family -- I would love to have a supportive family. Maybe someday? I pray for them all the time.

4) true friends scattered around -- Wow, I'm imagining that you live in a room filled with gold, diamonds, rubies, all your treasured friends ... My best friend died a few years ago.

Oh, but if you were to look on my Facebook, you'd see that I'm an artist who currently has my artwork on exhibit at a public government building ... which is the truth, and for which I'm happy and grateful. What you wouldn't see are the worst parts of my life ... I don't post them on Facebook for all to see. My life ain't perfect. But I will click the Like button for posts about Star Trek and goofy cat videos.

All these other people on Facebook who seem to have it better than you? (Their lives ain't perfect either.)

So I would say, with your successful life, you have a ton of things to be grateful for! :D

As for me, I feel many different emotions, some wonderful, some hard to deal with. I don't feel empty though ... and I attribute this to my belief in God.

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13 Jan 2017, 10:36 pm

Aspertastic424 wrote:
Do any of you ever feel "Empty" inside and is it a chronic thing?

Emptiness is even worse than loneliness IMO. If you are empty it means you don't really have much to give, in and of yourself, indeed don't really have a "strong sense of self." What I mean by that is that your identiy, your likes/dislikes are not terribly secure. Even worse, you can tend to depend upon other people for your happiness, and seek an idealized person to fill your crushing void.

Although I have (on paper) a successful life ( law school graduate, promise of gainful employment,loving family, true friends scattered around) I often feel empty and envious of other people.

With the advent of facebook I have been able to peer into the lives of others, obsess about them to myself like them and hate them at the same time for having the life I want or feel I should have.

Does that last statement creep you out? It should. In retrospect,given my thoughts/actions I feel I have almost flirted with this personality disorder, due to bouts of intense loneliness: https://www.psycom.net/depression.centr ... rline.html

Not in terms of how I have acted, but in terms of how I have thought. It scares and depresses me to no end that I have at times thought this way, but I am slowly but surely getting my act together.

Emptiness and lack of a "Sense of self" is huge with BPD. Fortunately I have scrabbled together one so I don't think I have it. Any thoughts?

From your first sentence in your post the first thing that popped into my mind was BPD before I even reached the point in your post where you reached the same conclusion. I have been diagnosed with BPD and do suffer with chronic feelings of emptiness. Just like you describe I often rely on others for happiness that I can't get myself. I seek to fill the void with not just people but also impulsive sex, spending and speeding when I used to drive, all ultimately left me feeling empty or dead inside.

When you mentioned idealization, people with borderline tend to either idealize or devalue others, it's either love or hate, black and white with no inbetween. Something I struggle with as well and have worked a lot on trying to work on this black and white thinking.

I also have chronic suicidal ideation, rapidly changing moods, difficulty dealing with anger.