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We are doomed.

(They're probably journalism majors.)

Do you mean Urinal-ism majors?

College education is sort of a joke, forcing everybody into college just dumbs it down since people are not anymore clever or smart and in fact it seems the opposite. They should only give loans for marketable needed majors instead of subsidizing Marxism.

I don't have a problem with people getting ROTC scholarships having a wide variety of majors. We need more than just STEM majors to run the military. I don't really care what someone majored in if they have real leadership potential.

For many students college is really trade-craft training, not education to produce people who can think in depth.

I did not reach my prime in critical thinking until ten years after I graduated. And it was a skill I mostly picked up on my own. I was an auto-didact (no dear, that does not mean repairing cars).

I am wondering how college students today compare to past college students.

Most true critical thinkers(CTs) that I have met became CTs on their own, as you described.

I have even met post-docs who are utterly incapable of CT.

I do not believe that University creates CTs, but rather that some ppl become CTs DESPITE University.

I should also say that I know some outstanding CTs that did not attend any tertiary educ. and are purely auto-didacts.

Some ppl believe that all individuals trained in Science, Philos. or Law are by definition CTs, I do not believe this to be the case.

The one about the great depression was a trick question, as it can be linked to many causes and when the politicians begun to follow the economical model made by the one who so-said to have "proved" that it was coming from the federal reserve they promised it would lead to mountains of money, it didn't work, at least not for the poor and the middle class.

So, what should college kids do rather that becoming "liberal"? Elect a illiterate conservative drug addict mayor, like you once did in Toronto, and see him close down public library? Don't think it would make peoples smarter. I do think there is excess in university from some fringe of the political left, but that fringe has very little power.

Here is one presentation...

I went away to college from Fall 1975 to Spring 1979

Students were much more independent then
There was no texting or devices for parents to follow us 24/7
We called them maybe once a week and gave them a very sanitized verson of what was going on
"Advocating" for us by bieng involved in choosing courses and disputing grades etc was rarely if ever done. If any
parent did those things kid would be mortified and then mercessily teased.
They dropped us off with our stuff at the beginining of the semester and picked us up at the end. If I wanted to go home for a weekend I used public transportation.

No accomadations or supports for the disabled.

More drugs and alcohol. Drinking age was 18. Bars and Dorm Keg parties were popular.

If you acted weird it was assumed you had taken too many drugs

School did not put us in horrible debt for the rest of our lives

Food was horrible

Unless you were in an Ivy League school much less pressure
Except somewhat for business majors priorities were were much more about learning both academic and personal
And less about jobs. I do not recall anybody having an internship.
" The National Association of Colleges and Employers reported that 50% of college grads in 2008 had held an
internship, compared with 17% in 1992"

The campus unrest of the late 60's was long over.
Then as now most faculty and politically active students were to the left politically. But nothing resembling SJW's, speech codes etc. Debate was academic and civil.

In short the college treated you as a full adult. That did make people more independent but many suddenly free from there parents could not handle it. There is a reason the drinking age is not 18 in most places in America anymore.

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who decides what majors are needed? i don't think it's the business of those in charge of federal student aid to stick their noses in that.

and even then, many people would turn to private loans and scholarships which give away enough money themselves.

Well the federal government basically nationalized the student loan industry so I guess them, I am not saying subjects should be banned or anything but we don't need anymore useless degrees. Trades, STEM, medicine, and whatever else is needed.

It's been said that the college/university drive might have been a clever way to hide the mass youth unemployment that arose when globalism went into full swing and the jobs the very young used to do were either shipped overseas or swamped with migrant workers. Student loans being a sneaky way of making people pay their own unemployment benefit during those years.

Michael Savage - Why Kids in College are So Stupid Today