I don't like to be a woman

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ltcvnzl
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12 Apr 2017, 9:17 pm

It isn't something to do with transsexuality or whatever, but I just wish I was a man. I feel so dismissed about all femininity subjects/stereotypes, and the general way as woman are perceived. It seems that we aren't humans, individuals, or at least not first class into this categories. It seems that the normality is masculine, and we are a second thing, that only has voice if it's very specified in this niche. I feel so powerless.



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12 Apr 2017, 9:45 pm

Aw, that's gotta be a frustrating feeling.


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13 Apr 2017, 8:54 am

Yes. It is.



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13 Apr 2017, 9:09 pm

sexism

boys get called "guys" when they are prepubescent. women get called "girls" when they are senile.

more women get sexually harrassed and raped than men. on average, men earn more $$ than women. all the united states presidents have been men so far. men have average naturally lower body fat. on average, men are taller than women.

in ye old english, it used to be proper to call one person "he", if you did not know if it was a man or a woman.

men do not get menstrual cycles. men do not get expected to wear make up by society.

fat men do not get as much ridicule as fat women.

old men do not get as much disrespect as old women.

"ladies" sounds a bit condescending. "gentlemen" does not.

more men are in STEM than women.

in the past, women did not have as many legal rights as men.

men do not have to wear bras. even if they have gynecomastia. men do not have breasts, besides man boobs.

men can take off their shirts.

men do not have to go through pregnancy.

sexism

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ciara "like a boy". does not mean she wants to be a boy.

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sometimes, i wonder if it is b/c of sexism, that i want to be male instead of female.

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but whatever. maybe b/c of racism, i want to be white instead of chinese.

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02 May 2017, 8:22 pm

5 Reasons I'm glad not to be male:

1: I don't have to worry about getting painfully caught in my own zipper.
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I couldn't think of four other reasons. :(



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05 May 2017, 12:24 am

There are no advantages to being a woman. There's been a male German soldier inside of me for years. My soldier came out last year, helmet and all and I'll make sure that he's not pushed back into that ugly, pink box.


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05 May 2017, 12:40 am

Perhaps it is mistreatment you dislike, not being a woman.

CockneyRebel wrote:
There are no advantages to being a woman. There's been a male German soldier inside of me for years. My soldier came out last year, helmet and all and I'll make sure that he's not pushed back into that ugly, pink box.

Stop with your misogynistic drivel. Womyn outlive men and are less likely to have many of the diseases and disorders that disable and kill men. We are not pink boxes. Learn to distinguish between what we are and the ugliness that exists in your mind.



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05 May 2017, 2:03 am

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Perhaps it is mistreatment you dislike, not being a woman.

Exactly. You dislike misogyny, and the rampant misogyny inherent in just about every culture on earth. You dislike, from your post, gender stereotyping and gendered expectations, others treating you in a second-class way just because you have a certain body. It's not being a woman so much as the ignorant mistreatment of external people and societies, so far as I can understand. True feminism challenges this, always has. Unfortunately, modern feminism seems to have become synonymous with misandry, which helps no one.


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05 May 2017, 2:32 am

yeah the women are the f****d ones and the men are the f*****s.

it really can not be any other way.



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05 May 2017, 2:50 am

^ I don't know about that, I have known plenty of misogynist women who do just fine f*cking themselves over, and plenty of men who believe in and understand what true equality means in philosophy and practice.


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05 May 2017, 3:04 am

Men and women are just two sides of the same coin.
Women tend to be the stable, nurturing, choosing side while men tend to be the more diverse, competitive, take-alls.

This is because women have two X chromosomes, able to balance them out. Men tend to be more unique because they show only one X. Men are made for competition. Men can compete with their unique traits and then women choose who they would like to mate with. Etc etc.... etc..

But with the way society is, we can't be happy just being who we are I guess.

Your list was very negative and had no objective evidence to men being better than women. You don't benefit from this attitude, so why allow it?

Most women see getting to have children as something very special. Afterall, there is no bond like that of a child and mother.

I have prefered being seen as a mystery sex online because of our more sex-driven other half. BUT, I am happy to be a woman.

And I accept that women and men create each other and suspect most sexism is just insecure people lashing out.



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05 May 2017, 7:46 pm

As a substandard male I'm treated as non human. So it's not better off being male. Really only better off being rich be it male female.

Hope you'll feel better.



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05 May 2017, 8:27 pm

starkid wrote:
Perhaps it is mistreatment you dislike, not being a woman.

CockneyRebel wrote:
There are no advantages to being a woman. There's been a male German soldier inside of me for years. My soldier came out last year, helmet and all and I'll make sure that he's not pushed back into that ugly, pink box.

Stop with your misogynistic drivel. Womyn outlive men and are less likely to have many of the diseases and disorders that disable and kill men. We are not pink boxes. Learn to distinguish between what we are and the ugliness that exists in your mind.


I was born female and I identify as male. People have tried to force me into a pink box, my whole life. Last January, I said "f**k that!" and started to please myself. Perhaps, you should learn to walk in someone else's shoes before you respond to their posts in the future. I don't care if women live longer than men. I still wish that I was born male. People wouldn't expect me to be a "Lady" and a "Princess". If you can't find anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.


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05 May 2017, 8:51 pm

I felt like this for most of my life. I even played with the gender identity stuff for a while, which I now reject.

The trick is to fully accept that gender is a social construct and an oppressive one at that. So there is nothing wrong with you if you don't perform it well. In fact, it's a good thing if you don't. There's nothing wrong with you and everything wrong with gender roles. This sounds obvious but it takes years to sink in because female socialisation is a b***h like that and it really does a number on your self-esteem. If you add religion into the mix, then that makes it worse.

I'm feeling fantastic compared to how I used to feel about myself and my lot in life as a woman. I don't know what happened exactly and I think it was a slow process rather than instantaneous. It's possibly a case of finding purpose in trying to liberate myself and others. That can be a lot of fun.


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05 May 2017, 8:53 pm

b9 wrote:
yeah the women are the f****d ones and the men are the f*****s.

it really can not be any other way.


Says who?


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05 May 2017, 10:18 pm

I don't want to deny that man have issues too. There is many characteristics that form someone, and they all mean some privilege or lack of it. Things are complex, and by no means I want to simplify it in a gender war.


At individual level, there is many man suffering because they don't attend what is expected from them. I respect it. But when you look at history, who was always making this decisions? Who had power? Public life? Recognition?

Males. Not all males, yes. But it always males. A woman, even if she succeed and is way beyond average she often have less power than a man. Things started to change, slowly, from a short time, but still there is a lot of people who believe woman should have a certain traits – and this traits are often see a less important. People will say that both complete each other, but in this narrative the main place is always the man.

It's saddening. Doesn't matter how good I am, I won't never be seen as good as a man.


And I feel we are in a point where things are even more confuse, because we do have a bit of freedom and not so fixed role in society, but people still see us as second class of citizens.