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07 Aug 2017, 10:29 pm

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You think Labour governments are left-wing? Um... no. They, just like Moronic Malcolm, support the concept of "free trade", tariff reductions, the importation of cheap labour to undermine the rights of workers already here, Sunday trading, job insecurity and non-compulsory unionism.


No you are right, the modern labor party is basically neo-liberal, Kevin Rudd is a multimillionaire elitist more in common with Turnbill both of whom don't really reflect the grass roots labor movement

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Things were much, much better in the 1970's and early 1980's when workers actually had a party that tried to represent them. Now we have no one. The Greens are idiots, utterly clueless, always going on about the republic (which we rejected back in the late 1990's), poofter marriages, a "treaty" with the abos - ugh! What has happened to the world over the last 30 years? Everything has gone to hell, the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

No thanks! nobody wants to return to the days when Barry Mackenzie and Paul Hogan were held up as icons of Australian identity. And no rugby, AFL, Steve Irwin, ANZACs and other stereotypical things from the past have no interest to the majority of younger Australians



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07 Aug 2017, 10:30 pm

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I think there is a lot of Marxist fat that needs to be cut, these useless professors shouldn't be able to make a living teaching drivel like "Beyonce studies". Real class by the way, look it up.


Who decides what is "drivel"? culture is not static and Beyonce has a bigger influence on culture than you would perhaps like to admit.


Who is Beyonce?

All the single ladies!! all the single ladies!!

If you like it you better put a ring on it!!

Makes you shake your booty Lintar ;)



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07 Aug 2017, 10:33 pm

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Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.


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07 Aug 2017, 10:37 pm

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Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples



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07 Aug 2017, 11:49 pm

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Why do you think conservatives are the bad guys?
You think the Left is better, look at Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and other countries of Eastern and Central Europe in 1945-1989 you will be surprised :D


Bad example given eastern Europe was controlled by a totalitarian state (Soviet Union) not a socialist government


But the same and the same, all countries were by definition "socialist" :mrgreen:


The Soviet states calling themselves socialist is just as meaningful as Hitler's Nazis calling themselves national socialists. Both are totalitarian states. A true socialist state has devolved power where the people and not the state arbitrarily decide how to treat it's citizens.

BTW! modern Poland sounds like a fascist state given the way it treats foreigners from outside of Europe


What do you mean, my country has helped over a million refugees from Ukraine, They way is even cool people.



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08 Aug 2017, 12:15 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples


You sound like you are full of white guilt and want all white people to commit suicide in all honesty. If you are hoping I'll start thinking like you, too f*****g bad.



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08 Aug 2017, 2:31 am

Marknis wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples


You sound like you are full of white guilt and want all white people to commit suicide in all honesty. If you are hoping I'll start thinking like you, too f*****g bad.

No I'm no suggesting that Marknis, just like to inject a little more diversity in the workplace and on the telly. For example my wife loves the TV sitcom "Friends". I don't tell her I feel like throwing up when I see the world these 5 young people lived in (pre-internet) is completely devoid of anyone who isn't glamorous or white. Their workplaces coffee shops, parties, shops apartments - nearly everything is homogenous like a KKK dreamland



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08 Aug 2017, 3:02 am

cyberdad wrote:
Marknis wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples


You sound like you are full of white guilt and want all white people to commit suicide in all honesty. If you are hoping I'll start thinking like you, too f*****g bad.

No I'm no suggesting that Marknis, just like to inject a little more diversity in the workplace and on the telly. For example my wife loves the TV sitcom "Friends". I don't tell her I feel like throwing up when I see the world these 5 young people lived in (pre-internet) is completely devoid of anyone who isn't glamorous or white. Their workplaces coffee shops, parties, shops apartments - nearly everything is homogenous like a KKK dreamland


Franny Ramsey, Phil from The Advise Show, Gazi Kodzo, and Cynthia G would call you a suck up for thinking like that. They've even stated they hate white liberals more than white conservatives. They actually hate Charlize Theron for adopting a black child and none of those people are white.

SJWs will never be happy no matter what you do. All I know is that if another calls me a Donald Trump Jr., I'll punch them in the face.



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08 Aug 2017, 7:41 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples


That's all anicdotal generalizing.



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08 Aug 2017, 2:10 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Marknis wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sure, things aren't as bad as they had been for blacks in the 60s. But that isn't the whole point of Affirmative Action. Part of it is allowing African Americans to reach higher education that their income would have made impossible.


Just "African-Americans"? You do of course realise that what you over there refer to as "affirmative action" has sunk its hooks into the policies enacted by governments across the globe. We have this odious nonsense in Australia as well, and the way it is constantly promoted as being a "good thing" is absolutely disgraceful, because it is utterly, shamefully wrong.

NO ONE should get the job except the one most qualified to do it! ALL other considerations (like marital status, "gender") are utterly irrelevant. There SHOULD NOT BE QUOTAS! "Reverse discrimination" is still discrimination, but because it is at the expense of "those with white privilege" (whatever that is) it is somehow 'acceptable'.

This nonsense must, and will, end. I'm by no means a fan of Mr. Trump, but the more silly, petulant, victim-playing idiots he offends the better. Political correctness must DIE!


In a perfect world, people would be hired simply for their qualifications regardless of color, and so there wouldn't be a need for Affirmative Action. Unfortunately, those who belong to minority groups still don't get an equal chance.

Getting back to an earlier point you made I agree that in employment sector that there is a great need to continue affirmative action. Just flick the telly on and all you see is a sea of white faces. Go to your local central business district in a major city and the corporate sector is white. Visit a major company and the boardroom will be white. Plenty of examples


You sound like you are full of white guilt and want all white people to commit suicide in all honesty. If you are hoping I'll start thinking like you, too f*****g bad.

No I'm no suggesting that Marknis, just like to inject a little more diversity in the workplace and on the telly. For example my wife loves the TV sitcom "Friends". I don't tell her I feel like throwing up when I see the world these 5 young people lived in (pre-internet) is completely devoid of anyone who isn't glamorous or white. Their workplaces coffee shops, parties, shops apartments - nearly everything is homogenous like a KKK dreamland


In all fairness, pretty much everyone I know, with the exception of a few neighbors, are lily white. Then again, I live in the Pacific Northwest, so what can you do? :lol: The people I associate with tend to be liberal progressives who despise racism, and that, I like to think, is more important than keeping a bean count of the people of color I might socialize with.


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08 Aug 2017, 4:59 pm

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In all fairness, pretty much everyone I know, with the exception of a few neighbors, are lily white. Then again, I live in the Pacific Northwest, so what can you do? :lol: The people I associate with tend to be liberal progressives who despise racism, and that, I like to think, is more important than keeping a bean count of the people of color I might socialize with.

Fair enough. As Ezra said I am generalising.