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I used to defend places like Stone Mountain where my family took vacations...
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed. 
09 Sep 2021, 5:00 pm
Here's a fitting old comic. Lady Columbia weeping over the compromise between the South and the Union after the war. See? Even The Goddess of America knew this would come back to bite us over a century later. 
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09 Sep 2021, 5:03 pm
King0fSpades wrote:
I used to defend places like Stone Mountain where my family took vacations...
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
I think that's a big part of it. Germany had to deNazify. The South never really de-traitorified, in fact as soon as they could they went the other direction and made celebrating the lost cause the norm. They've never really expressed contrition in any meaningful way.
09 Sep 2021, 5:05 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
I used to defend places like Stone Mountain where my family took vacations...
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
I think that's a big part of it. Germany had to deNazify. The South never really de-traitorified, in fact as soon as they could they went the other direction and made celebrating the lost cause the norm. They've never really expressed contrition in any meaningful way.
That's true, and we can blame organizations like The Daughters of The Confederacy for that I think. I saw a documentary once on PBS and did not realize how much disinformation they taught in schools down here about slavery and the 'lost cause' myth since the Jim Crow era.
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09 Sep 2021, 5:12 pm
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funeralxempire wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
I used to defend places like Stone Mountain where my family took vacations...
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
I think that's a big part of it. Germany had to deNazify. The South never really de-traitorified, in fact as soon as they could they went the other direction and made celebrating the lost cause the norm. They've never really expressed contrition in any meaningful way.
That's true, and we can blame organizations like The Daughters of The Confederacy for that I think. I saw a documentary once on PBS and did not realize how much disinformation they taught in schools down here about slavery and the 'lost cause' myth since the Jim Crow era.
That's also why I try to have a degree of compassion instead of just acting like the folks who buy into that stuff buy into it because they're evil monsters. They buy into it because they've been raised to believe it for generations and questioning the official, politically correct (pro-Lost Cause) narrative is likely to make one a pariah.
09 Sep 2021, 5:21 pm
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King0fSpades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
I used to defend places like Stone Mountain where my family took vacations...
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
But I like to think I'm more enlightened now. I get why people hate the Confederacy s**t. It's not just because they fought to preserve slavery, it's because they were traitors to this country and were allowed to be celebrated as heroes in the south when they should have been shamed.
I think that's a big part of it. Germany had to deNazify. The South never really de-traitorified, in fact as soon as they could they went the other direction and made celebrating the lost cause the norm. They've never really expressed contrition in any meaningful way.
That's true, and we can blame organizations like The Daughters of The Confederacy for that I think. I saw a documentary once on PBS and did not realize how much disinformation they taught in schools down here about slavery and the 'lost cause' myth since the Jim Crow era.
That's also why I try to have a degree of compassion instead of just acting like the folks who buy into that stuff buy into it because they're evil monsters. They buy into it because they've been raised to believe it for generations and questioning the official, politically correct (pro-Lost Cause) narrative is likely to make one a pariah.
I can understand that. Even my own mom buys into some of it and she's a very smart woman and even supports Black Lives Matter.
I know I say I dont support BLM but that's not because I have a racist grudge against people of color. It's just that I don't agree with a lot of things they believe. I don't believe that every white person is racist because if that were really true we wouldnt have had white people in this country who fought in the Civil War to free slaves out of sympathy. I feel like that should be common sense.
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I know I say I dont support BLM but that's not because I have a racist grudge against people of color. It's just that I don't agree with a lot of things they believe. I don't believe that every white person is racist because if that were really true we wouldnt have had white people in this country who fought in the Civil War to free slaves out of sympathy. I feel like that should be common sense.
One can be racist and still see forms of racism as a bridge too far. Even a lot of abolitionists were racist.
Pointing out that racist views are common and often go unquestioned isn't the same as condemning everyone who holds those views as terrible. People can improve and grow. I'm sure there's forms of bigotry that you might have once accepted that you're now more able to understand as problematic.
The only problem is that BLM is speaking the truth too plainly because no one wants to be called racist or worse, to have to admit to themselves that it's true, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't more widespread then anyone wants to admit. That's one of the reasons why most people who get accused of racism try to deflect by pointing out a worse example, or bigger, more obvious version in hopes they'll dodge the accusation.
Sometimes one just needs to accept the accusation and figure out why it was made in order to understand if it's valid and how severe it was. Often it seems like making a blanket observation of a shared experience is treated as a bigger deal than what motivates the observation.
