"You can't eat your cake and have it too"

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25 Dec 2017, 2:16 pm

This is the original expression and the one that makes sense. You can't eat your cake and still have it. The nonsensical "you can't have your cake and eat it too" has become more common.



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25 Dec 2017, 3:33 pm

how on earth can you eat a cake, and not have it.


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25 Dec 2017, 3:37 pm

I have two cakes.



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11 Jan 2018, 5:56 am

NewTime wrote:
This is the original expression and the one that makes sense. You can't eat your cake and still have it. The nonsensical "you can't have your cake and eat it too" has become more common.


You get that from a unibomber documentary ?



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11 Jan 2018, 8:00 am

Eating your cake and having it too is easy as pie.



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11 Jan 2018, 8:15 am

NewTime wrote:
This is the original expression and the one that makes sense.


How does that make any sense?



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11 Jan 2018, 8:34 am

Never understood that one...or the new, revised version, either.



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11 Jan 2018, 1:23 pm

Once you have eaten the cake, it has been consumed and is unusable. "Have" in this context is to possess something in a usable state, ergo "you can't eat your cake and (still) have it too." I guess it kinda works the other way, but in reverse order it more conveys the idea that you can possess a cake in a usable state, however you cannot consume it if you do. What then is the point of owning a cake you can't eat?


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11 Jan 2018, 1:29 pm

It's just another one of those stupid idioms that make no sense. Like having a "chip on one's shoulder'.


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11 Jan 2018, 1:38 pm

The original saying was
"You cannot eat your cake and have it still"
Literally taken this means that once you eat it, then it is gone. You cannot keep it.
Applying it metaphorically it means things like you can't buy things and keep your money- you actually have to give to get- and a lot of other common uses for its nonsensical counterpart.

Does that clear it up?


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11 Jan 2018, 1:38 pm

Every idiom has a story behind it, but because they were spread far more than their sources, some of these stores have gotten lost. People just don't bother to locate them, because the idioms themselves are so commonplace, the base meaning to them are as well.


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11 Jan 2018, 2:08 pm

MagicMeerkat wrote:
It's just another one of those stupid idioms that make no sense. Like having a "chip on one's shoulder'.


Perhaps it's time for some new chip idioms.

Cindy: What the hell happened to my bag of Doritos?

Kim: Jeffrey must've grabbed it. He's always got a chip in his beard.



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12 Jan 2018, 5:36 pm

Does Bill Gates walk around with a silicon chip on his shoulder?



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12 Jan 2018, 5:37 pm

EzraS wrote:
Eating your cake and having it too is easy as pie.


It's a cake walk!



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12 Jan 2018, 5:53 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Does Bill Gates walk around with a silicon chip on his shoulder?


No if you look closely you'll see that' it's a bitten off piece of Apple.



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17 Jan 2018, 1:41 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Eating your cake and having it too is easy as pie.


It's a cake walk!


That one takes the cake.

Jenny: I don't want to do the cake walk!
Mother: You little brat! You always have a chip on your shoulder!
Jenny: That's just the icing on the cake.


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