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03 Jan 2018, 6:08 pm

I feel like most women in the world hate me. I tend to get angry looks from them no matter where I go and it makes me wonder why they do that. I really want more female friends besides just my sister in law and I've been dying to have a girlfriend for so long but I keep getting "f**k off" signals from women. I really hate that I was born and everything I wish for was denied to me. Why can't I just die in my sleep? I want to feel peace before I die. :(



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03 Jan 2018, 6:46 pm

Because women can tell we aren’t worthy of them, so dislike us looking at them.
Much like how white women in the south would react to black people back in the 1900s.
Women can just tell somehow if a man is a real man or a worthless loser,



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03 Jan 2018, 7:03 pm

I have a crush on both of you.



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03 Jan 2018, 7:34 pm

To be fair, the "f**k off" look women give a lot of men is often just their resting facial expression and has nothing to do with who/what we're looking at.


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03 Jan 2018, 9:49 pm

MissChess wrote:
To be fair, the "f**k off" look women give a lot of men is often just their resting facial expression and has nothing to do with who/what we're looking at.

Why do only women have resting b***h face? And how do they expect to make friends.
But i dont know if that’s true I’ll see women go from happy face smiles looking at others to f**k off face immediately upon looking at me.



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03 Jan 2018, 9:54 pm

sly279 wrote:
MissChess wrote:
To be fair, the "f**k off" look women give a lot of men is often just their resting facial expression and has nothing to do with who/what we're looking at.

Why do only women have resting b***h face? And how do they expect to make friends.
But i dont know if that’s true I’ll see women go from happy face smiles looking at others to f**k off face immediately upon looking at me.

Guys have resting b**ch face too, but on men it's not considered remarkable, since men aren't under constant pressure from our society to smile all the d*mn time like frothing lunatics. Nor are they accused of being b*tchy for not having a smile pasted on their mugs everywhere they go in public.

Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine.

Unless I'm putting an expression on my face purposefully, there generally isn't one there, so I could be smiling at someone and then go blank as soon as they're not watching. Mind you, that's me. I can't speak for women in general any more than any of us can speak for autistics in general.


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03 Jan 2018, 10:27 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
I have a crush on both of you.


Why? Some women on here say they wouldn't want me as a boyfriend.

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To be fair, the "f**k off" look women give a lot of men is often just their resting facial expression and has nothing to do with who/what we're looking at.


It's most disappointing to see it when a gothic, nerdy, or any sort of alternative girl does it.



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03 Jan 2018, 10:42 pm

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Guys have resting b**ch face too, but on men it's not considered remarkable, since men aren't under constant pressure from our society to smile all the d*mn time like frothing lunatics. Nor are they accused of being b*tchy for not having a smile pasted on their mugs everywhere they go in public.


This.


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03 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm

Sarahsmith wrote:
I have a crush on both of you.

O.o



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03 Jan 2018, 11:46 pm

Even when I was a teenager, girls gave me scowling looks as well as told me "No, Mark." while they loved the other guys, even if those guys told them they smelled like horses and punched them in the face.



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04 Jan 2018, 3:01 am

MissChess wrote:
To be fair, the "f**k off" look women give a lot of men is often just their resting facial expression and has nothing to do with who/what we're looking at.



I'm pretty sure I gave this to a guy today who I actually thought was attractive. But I'm not particularly good at smiling in these situations.



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04 Jan 2018, 4:20 am

I'm not trying to blame you :? but how do you behave around women?

Women, especially alt women, normally feel vulnerable so if you stare desperately or act overly conscious or creepy, we're gonna freak out

Can't you ask your sister in law for advice?


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04 Jan 2018, 8:45 am

Sandpiper wrote:
MissChess wrote:
Guys have resting b**ch face too, but on men it's not considered remarkable, since men aren't under constant pressure from our society to smile all the d*mn time like frothing lunatics. Nor are they accused of being b*tchy for not having a smile pasted on their mugs everywhere they go in public.


This.

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Women, especially alt women, normally feel vulnerable so if you stare desperately or act overly conscious or creepy, we're gonna freak out

And this.

It's hard for adult people to make new acquaintances without some sort of an "in" like seeing them every day at work so they get to know you, or having a mutual friend that sets them up. This is true for NTs and women as well, but I can see where it would be worse for a man with AS. Men have crappy societal standards too.
Just going out and looking at or talking to women who do not know you is going to get you defensive responses. Not sure how to fix this, It just is. It sucks being lonely and frustrated :? Sorry :(



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04 Jan 2018, 10:13 am

Goldilocks wrote:
I'm not trying to blame you :? but how do you behave around women?

Women, especially alt women, normally feel vulnerable so if you stare desperately or act overly conscious or creepy, we're gonna freak out

Can't you ask your sister in law for advice?


I honestly don't even try anymore. I still feel empty that I don't have more female friends and a girlfriend but I've had so many discouraging events happen that I just wish death would take me out of this life. I don't want to give up because it would mean the bullies have truly won and all those years of longing were wasted but I hate the pain I suffer from.

But when I did try, I would try asking questions because I was told that was what I was supposed to do. I will admit I have a soft voice because no one really taught me how to use my diaphragm so by instinct I mainly just use my throat. I didn't stare or atleast I don't think I did; I didn't lean in or anything like that when I talked to these girls. I had to rack my brain for things to say because most of the time I got "Oh, that's cool." or "Yeah." in unenthusiastic tones no matter what I said and it made interacting with them even more frustrating.



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04 Jan 2018, 12:20 pm

MissChess wrote:
Unless I'm putting an expression on my face purposefully, there generally isn't one there, so I could be smiling at someone and then go blank as soon as they're not watching. Mind you, that's me. I can't speak for women in general any more than any of us can speak for autistics in general.


And that's also me. It's not that I never smile, but I need to have something to smile about in order to do so, like hearing a good joke or seeing something I like... or thinking about something funny, but that's a double edged sword since I might end up smiling too much and in a way that doesn't fit the situation. I can also smile if ordered, but it comes off as unnatural and if I smile without really feeling like smiling then I have to concentrate on the smile and find it difficult to do other things while doing so. This actually got me in to trouble once; even though I explained this no one believed me.

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I honestly don't even try anymore.


Well then I'd say that there's a high chance that you'll stay single; while some woman might come to you without you even trying, your chances of finding someone are higher if you keep trying. It's hard I know, but you don't really have any other choices than to either give up or keep trying until you succeed.



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04 Jan 2018, 12:40 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
MissChess wrote:
Unless I'm putting an expression on my face purposefully, there generally isn't one there, so I could be smiling at someone and then go blank as soon as they're not watching. Mind you, that's me. I can't speak for women in general any more than any of us can speak for autistics in general.


And that's also me. It's not that I never smile, but I need to have something to smile about in order to do so, like hearing a good joke or seeing something I like... or thinking about something funny, but that's a double edged sword since I might end up smiling too much and in a way that doesn't fit the situation. I can also smile if ordered, but it comes off as unnatural and if I smile without really feeling like smiling then I have to concentrate on the smile and find it difficult to do other things while doing so. This actually got me in to trouble once; even though I explained this no one believed me.

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I honestly don't even try anymore.


Well then I'd say that there's a high chance that you'll stay single; while some woman might come to you without you even trying, your chances of finding someone are higher if you keep trying. It's hard I know, but you don't really have any other choices than to either give up or keep trying until you succeed.


What keeps me from truly giving up is that I don't want the bullies who told me I would never "get laid" to celebrate but it's still discouraging to go through so many years without successes. Or am I going about this the wrong way in wanting to prove the bullies wrong?