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14 Feb 2018, 11:22 am

The Sexual Revolution which began in the 1960's and lasted up until the 1980's, has changed us in many ways. We now see sex as a normal thing, as opposed in the 1950's, where sex was considered dirty and impure for the younger generation. We also have accepted LGBT people in our culture, whereas before the Sexual Revolution, being an LGBT person meant that your reputation would be ruined, and that people believed that it was a mental disorder.

What other effects from the Sexual Revolution continue to reverberate in our culture and society to this day?

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14 Feb 2018, 11:28 am

AIDS is the entity which has "backtracked" the "sexual revolution" somewhat.

People became much more cautious, and less promiscuous, in general, after about 1984-1985. Before about 1984, AIDS was seen as being "the gay disease."

However, in general, there is much more acceptance for the LBQT+ lifestyle these days than in 1984-1985.



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14 Feb 2018, 9:49 pm

It lead to the breakdown of the family which lead to huge increases in crime and poverty.



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14 Feb 2018, 11:00 pm

LegoMaster2149 wrote:
The Sexual Revolution which began in the 1960's and lasted up until the 1980's, has changed us in many ways. We now see sex as a normal thing, as opposed in the 1950's, where sex was considered dirty and impure for the younger generation. We also have accepted LGBT people in our culture, whereas before the Sexual Revolution, being an LGBT person meant that your reputation would be ruined, and that people believed that it was a mental disorder.

What other effects from the Sexual Revolution continue to reverberate in our culture and society to this day?

-LegoMaster2149 (Written on February 14, 2018)


So the context is: developed western cultures...
And within that context, it also excluded a significant element in Amerika, I.E. the Bible belt...
Or am I out of touch these days?

I'm out on a limb here, but wasn't the main aspect/impetus of the sexual revolution the advent of "The Pill"?

The Pill allowed women greater freedom and safety (in terms of conception) in sexual activity...
That resultant sexual freedom provided the catalyst for further social avenues/change/developments for women...
Women became more independent/assertive, and in some situations, more aggressive...

When was the genesis of feminism?


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15 Feb 2018, 1:06 am

^ my understanding is that feminism tends to come in "waves".

effective and easily accessible birth control comes to mind. don't know where we'd be without it.


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15 Feb 2018, 10:42 am

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When was the genesis of feminism?


The first wave of feminism started in the 19th and the early 20th century.


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15 Feb 2018, 11:01 am

Women got tired of not having legal rights......

While they managed households they could never own....just because they were women.



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15 Feb 2018, 6:14 pm

LegoMaster2149 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
When was the genesis of feminism?


The first wave of feminism started in the 19th and the early 20th century.


Apologies...
I didn't properly define my context...
When was the genesis of feminism during the sexual revolution...
Germaine Greer type...

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Germaine Greer (/ɡrɪər/; born 29 January 1939)[1] is an Australian writer and public intellectual, regarded as one of the major voices of the second-wave feminist movement in the latter half of the 20th century.[2] She lives in the United Kingdom, where she has held academic positions, specializing in English literature, at the University of Warwick and Newnham College, Cambridge.

Greer's ideas have created controversy ever since her first book, The Female Eunuch (1970), made her a household name.[3] An international bestseller and a watershed text in the feminist movement, the book offered a systematic deconstruction of ideas such as womanhood and femininity, arguing that women are forced to assume submissive roles in society to fulfill male fantasies of what being a woman entails.[4][5]

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Greer is a liberation rather than equality feminist.[a] Her goal is not equality with men, which she sees as assimilation and "agreeing to live the lives of unfree men". "Women's liberation," she wrote in The Whole Woman (1999), "did not see the female's potential in terms of the male's actual." She argues instead that liberation is about asserting difference and "insisting on it as a condition of self-definition and self-determination". It is a struggle for the freedom of women to "define their own values, order their own priorities and decide their own fate".[b]

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The Sexual Revolution, also known as a time of Sexual Liberation, was a social movement that challenged traditional codes of behavior related to sexuality and interpersonal relationships throughout the United States and subsequently, the wider world, from the 1960s to the 1980s.[1] Sexual liberation included increased acceptance of sex outside of traditional heterosexual, monogamous relationships (primarily marriage).[2] The normalization of contraception and the pill, public nudity, pornography, premarital sex, homosexuality, and alternative forms of sexuality, and the legalization of abortion all followed.[3][4]

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15 Feb 2018, 6:49 pm

Well, it's been around for a while, actually.

Ca. 1500 B.C., Egypt was a matriarchal society. (Hatshepsut and others after her.) The Kushites (Nubians) were even more so. Women may have played more varied roles in the Viking world than originally thought (one hero's tomb is looking more like that of a heroine, lately). Several North American indigenous cultures (Iroquois, Lenape, Hopi, among others) were/are matrilineal - which means that family wealth and property, not merely lineage, passes through the maternal line. Sacagawea was Shoshone and is now considered a far more important member of the expeditionary team than she was in 19th century depictions.

It's out there, and it's been around for a long time.

(edit in: ah, I see - thanks for the update limiting the time frame! Never mind... :-) )
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16 Feb 2018, 2:41 pm

Pepe wrote:
LegoMaster2149 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
When was the genesis of feminism?


The first wave of feminism started in the 19th and the early 20th century.


Apologies...
I didn't properly define my context...
When was the genesis of feminism during the sexual revolution...
Germaine Greer type...


I see, then you are thinking about the second wave of feminism, which originated in the United States in the early 1960's, and eventually spread to other parts of the world.


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16 Feb 2018, 7:40 pm

Another Great Topic on the 'Wrong Planet' per the Sexual Revolution;
And Considering, our closest Kissing Cousin Apes, the Bonobo,
uses many different all natural devices of Sexual Activity
to avoid aggression and violence with no
Monkey
Business
of World War III; Additionally
I find it extremely interesting
in the 'Dance Halls' of Life that
now Women on their initiative Jump
up and Down as such in Bootie Dances
they create; only problem of course is some folks
get left out of the action as we humans are a tad bit
still more discriminate in selecting others to engage with
in arousing behaviors like this; in this way, Homogenous Societies
have their way with each other more and so do more dominate 'alpha
looking fearless males' as to who this or that male is that women these days
Choose to do an all clothed 'Bonobo Dance' with on the Dance Floors of life; additionally too,
the Aesthetic Quality of Healthy and close to Naked bodies in Malls as advertisement for just about all
there is to buy today I find
quite pleasing and no; not
offensive at all; as I ain't scared
and get selected enough for Bootie
Dances to not feel bad about getting left out other wise
Pornography provides at least a vicarious avenue where
no one gets left out in the Kingdom of Now; for sure, why the hell does
one wanna blow things up when all the 'Virgin Looking' women are as close
as a button push of 'Loving Touch' away from Suicide Bomb Buttons and the such as that.
It's true; the Sexual Revolution not only makes lives it saves lives for SLM Sex Life Matters more when free.
And on top of this; the Science of Lust and Love indicates that the Lust Part of the Sexual Revolution leads
to greater Creativity and Productivity as a Libido source of Muse that really should not be any surprise for
those in the feel and sense of doing that for real; and even better, when Women get turned on as such
they tend to show off their social cooperation to lure in desirable mates too; so yes, in general,
everyone wins with a Sexual Revolution as long as the Neurohormone Oxytocin still
comes to play in social bonding ways so a village still sticks together in
Altruistic Ways to Garden and Raise a Child as Love so the entire
Revolution and Evolution of the Human Species Carries on, Healthy.
Leave out the Love and even Bonobos Screw up in the other ways too.
We have a problem too, 'Houston' as Science Studies of Humans in the last few
decades suggests a very substantial decrease of around 30 Percent of empirical
measures of Empathy among College Age Students. The Sexual Revolution without
Empathy can and will be more of a game of Abuse than consensual activity. True though;
Bootie Dances
don't make me mad.
I can tolerate them as no
one gets hurt in the longer run of that with
at least little old me out in a Free Dance of Love.
I love the Sexual Revolution; so frustrating it was to be limited
to just Bra and Panty Photos in the Sears and Roebuck Catalog in Puberty years of old.
But on the other Hand, I probably got a whole lot more School Work Done and Learned to
Love Women with Emotions instead of just Octopus Arms and the Hands of that activity too.
As in all stuff life, there is Dark and Light that comes with what is. Sex Sales and Capitalism
ain't
gonna
let that S E X dollar bill go;
And on top of that Porn was the
major driving creative and productive
influence for the very existence of online
as we do it now in so many different ways of Free.
Anyway, if anyone is interested in Empirical Studies related
to this; two Youtube Links below on Lust and Love and Bonobo
Extra Credit
Loving ways too;
And oh, by the Way
that 'Heavenly Pill' that
came to be in '60 the year of
my Birth, I do agree started this
New age of Freedom for all who Love
Freedom more naked from Head to toe;
And yes, the EartH in some ways at least as us
can and will thank the pill creators from saving
the Earth from too much of us still to come as
the Population of Humans is projected to finally
stabilize with additional reproductive birth control
by the middle of Century that is Good News for all who are concerned
for in this way, 'the Pill' may save us all from additionally suffering otherwise to come.
So, Go Sexual Revolution Go; as 'You' the 'Pill' and 'Porn' may be the Real Saviors of the Human World for True
most folks don't do Porn and make Babies at the same time on the 'other hand' as such; heHe; 'Jesus "S" Christ'.

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17 Feb 2018, 2:25 am

LegoMaster2149 wrote:
The Sexual Revolution which began in the 1960's and lasted up until the 1980's, has changed us in many ways. We now see sex as a normal thing, as opposed in the 1950's, where sex was considered dirty and impure for the younger generation. We also have accepted LGBT people in our culture, whereas before the Sexual Revolution, being an LGBT person meant that your reputation would be ruined, and that people believed that it was a mental disorder.

What other effects from the Sexual Revolution continue to reverberate in our culture and society to this day?

-LegoMaster2149 (Written on February 14, 2018)


My mother was part of that generation and when I was a teenager she once became aggravated with me and lost her temper because I wasn't rebellious like a normal teenager, wasn't running around with boys having sex and going to parties, and didn't have a desire at the time to leave home. She flat out told me in a very frustrated tone that I wasn't normal. I suppose this was just fear though that I would never become an adult. When I finally did leave home to attend college, she didn't want me to go.

Needless to say, I'm more conservative than my parents.



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17 Feb 2018, 2:53 am

Chronos wrote:

My mother was part of that generation and when I was a teenager she once became aggravated with me and lost her temper because I wasn't rebellious like a normal teenager, wasn't running around with boys having sex and going to parties, and didn't have a desire at the time to leave home. She flat out told me in a very frustrated tone that I wasn't normal. I suppose this was just fear though that I would never become an adult. When I finally did leave home to attend college, she didn't want me to go.

Needless to say, I'm more conservative than my parents.


Presumably, your are on the autistic spectrum...
You have not been...
You are not now...
And you will never be "normal"...
Though I prefer to use the term "typical"...
We are exceptional... :mrgreen:


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17 Feb 2018, 2:58 am

Pepe wrote:
Chronos wrote:

My mother was part of that generation and when I was a teenager she once became aggravated with me and lost her temper because I wasn't rebellious like a normal teenager, wasn't running around with boys having sex and going to parties, and didn't have a desire at the time to leave home. She flat out told me in a very frustrated tone that I wasn't normal. I suppose this was just fear though that I would never become an adult. When I finally did leave home to attend college, she didn't want me to go.

Needless to say, I'm more conservative than my parents.


Presumably, your are on the autistic spectrum...
You have not been...
You are not now...
And you will never be "normal"...
Though I prefer to use the term "typical"...
We are exceptional... :mrgreen:


Correct. I'm not normal. Luckily for her my younger sister was.



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17 Feb 2018, 4:32 pm

I'm glad you're not "normal." You're Chronos. You can be a trip at times LOL But you are you!

I find you "rebellious" in your own way. You rebel against the absurdities of the world.