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07 Mar 2018, 5:34 pm

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Ex-Russian spy, his daughter and a policeman critically ill in hospital.

Finger is pointing at the Russians.

If it is the Russians, after the Litvinenko murder with radioactive polonium, why are they choosing these James Bond style methods - surely if they want to get rid of someone they could use far less “exotic” methods?

Unless that’s the point - trying to send a message?



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07 Mar 2018, 5:55 pm

Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


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07 Mar 2018, 7:27 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.



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10 Mar 2018, 2:25 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


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10 Mar 2018, 7:45 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


Putin seriously has no concern about losing his next election, as Russian elections under him are a sham. So, he has zero fear of killing a dissident agent making him look bad at home.


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11 Mar 2018, 3:25 am

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JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


So he didn't annex Crimea?



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11 Mar 2018, 10:09 am

Daniel89 wrote:
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Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


So he didn't annex Crimea?


Of course! All those Russian tanks and soldiers were fake news! :roll: :lol:


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11 Mar 2018, 10:39 am

Russia has a long history of poisoning people, especially in the UK. Was commonplace in Europe during the cold war.



Georgi Markov (Ricin poisoning), Aleksander Litvinenko (Pollonium). UK even pointed out Russia implicitly for Litvinenko resulting in a diplomatic crisis).

In Russia, high ranking military people, opponents of Putin and political activists regularly dissapear under "strange circumstances". To deny the contrary would be idiotic, something only a communist or a fox news viewer would believe. Russia is a dictatorship wearing an obvious fake mustache trying to pass as a democracy, and since the KGB midget took power it resorted back to it's earlier cold war practices.

Putin needs to be dealt with. Same goes with any loyalists, regardless of where they are on the planet, including 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I hope Robert Muller drag that fat narcissistic putin lover and his criminal minions out of the whitehouse into a jail cell.


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11 Mar 2018, 2:18 pm

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Russia has a long history of poisoning people, especially in the UK. Was commonplace in Europe during the cold war.



Georgi Markov (Ricin poisoning), Aleksander Litvinenko (Pollonium). UK even pointed out Russia implicitly for Litvinenko resulting in a diplomatic crisis).

In Russia, high ranking military people, opponents of Putin and political activists regularly dissapear under "strange circumstances". To deny the contrary would be idiotic, something only a communist or a fox news viewer would believe. Russia is a dictatorship wearing an obvious fake mustache trying to pass as a democracy, and since the KGB midget took power it resorted back to it's earlier cold war practices.

Putin needs to be dealt with. Same goes with any loyalists, regardless of where they are on the planet, including 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I hope Robert Muller drag that fat narcissistic putin lover and his criminal minions out of the whitehouse into a jail cell.


AMEN!! !!


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11 Mar 2018, 3:07 pm

Ichinin wrote:
Russia has a long history of poisoning people, especially in the UK. Was commonplace in Europe during the cold war.



Georgi Markov (Ricin poisoning), Aleksander Litvinenko (Pollonium). UK even pointed out Russia implicitly for Litvinenko resulting in a diplomatic crisis).

In Russia, high ranking military people, opponents of Putin and political activists regularly dissapear under "strange circumstances". To deny the contrary would be idiotic, something only a communist or a fox news viewer would believe. Russia is a dictatorship wearing an obvious fake mustache trying to pass as a democracy, and since the KGB midget took power it resorted back to it's earlier cold war practices.

Putin needs to be dealt with. Same goes with any loyalists, regardless of where they are on the planet, including 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I hope Robert Muller drag that fat narcissistic putin lover and his criminal minions out of the whitehouse into a jail cell.


There's no hard evidence that was Russia either.


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11 Mar 2018, 3:09 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


So he didn't annex Crimea?


No, Crimea used to be part of Russia. There's a lot of Russian speaking people there and the Ukrainian government was trying to remove the Russian language in schools. They had a referendum and voted to rejoin Russia.


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11 Mar 2018, 3:21 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


So he didn't annex Crimea?


No, Crimea used to be part of Russia. There's a lot of Russian speaking people there and the Ukrainian government was trying to remove the Russian language in schools. They had a referendum and voted to rejoin Russia.


If New Mexico decided to return to Mexico, that hardly means the US is going to respect that choice, regardless if the people there voted for it. I won't hold Ukraine to any different standards.


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11 Mar 2018, 4:26 pm

The news stations can't make up their mind if the Russian spy and his daughter are critically ill or dead...heard both versions



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11 Mar 2018, 9:47 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Unless it wasn't Russia... Putin is capable of it but he isn't a reckless moron. He has no motive. He has an election coming up in a couple of weeks and the World Cup in a few months. He knows the mass hysteria it would cause. His enemies have all the motives.


He invaded Ukraine and seized their territory killing someone is nothing compared to that.


No he did not "invade" Ukraine. The US amd Europe supported and helped Neo Nazis otherthrow and elected leader though.


So he didn't annex Crimea?


No, Crimea used to be part of Russia. There's a lot of Russian speaking people there and the Ukrainian government was trying to remove the Russian language in schools. They had a referendum and voted to rejoin Russia.


I Get the feeling you are just one of those Anti Western people who get their news from RT. They didn't have a Referendum to join Russia, Russia invaded and then they had a referendum which by no means is legal, voting under duress is not legitimate.



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12 Mar 2018, 5:58 am

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I Get the feeling you are just one of those Anti Western people who get their news from RT. They didn't have a Referendum to join Russia, Russia invaded and then they had a referendum which by no means is legal, voting under duress is not legitimate.


Obvious Russian troll is obvious. Do not feed him.

RT == same disinformation campaign by far right extremists as Fox "news".


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