(Canadian political discussion) Is Canada getting worse?
Here we are in 2018 and I have never felt more unsafe to walk the streets. I have never seen more homeless people and such a rise in criminality fuelled by rising poverty and the addiction epidemic. The Canadian government has out right admitted the legal system is underfunded and people on probation are not even being followed up on because the funds just aren't there. We have sex offenders left to their own devices.
The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
I think I have identified the problem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada
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The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
I think I have identified the problem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada
<waves @ DMK>...

How could Justin Trudeau be responsible for emergency waiting time, lack of school funding and lack of social programs while those are the jurisdiction of the provinces? The federal don't have much influence on those issues, the provinces governments wouldn't allow it.
As for the rise of the criminality, this is more likely the result of the politics of Stephen Harper and his conservative government. Also, the best solution to the opiate addiction epidemic is probably to legalize Marijuana, which the Trudeau government will soon do: this is a promising substance for treatment against pain, and thought not without danger, is far less dangerous that substances based on opium.
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The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
I think I have identified the problem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada
<waves @ DMK>...

How could Justin Trudeau be responsible for emergency waiting time, lack of school funding and lack of social programs while those are the jurisdiction of the provinces? The federal don't have much influence on those issues, the provinces governments wouldn't allow it.
As for the rise of the criminality, this is more likely the result of the politics of Stephen Harper and his conservative government. Also, the best solution to the opiate addiction epidemic is probably to legalize Marijuana, which the Trudeau government will soon do: this is a promising substance for treatment against pain, and thought not without danger, is far less dangerous that substances based on opium.
Oh I agree. Justin Trudeau is far too ''new'' to have created all these things but I think the poster was talking about his father getting the ball rolling towards destruction. But I don't think that was it. Within the ten years of Stephen Harper lots of familiar stability started disappearing.
How could Justin Trudeau be responsible for emergency waiting time, lack of school funding and lack of social programs while those are the jurisdiction of the provinces? The federal don't have much influence on those issues, the provinces governments wouldn't allow it.
As for the rise of the criminality, this is more likely the result of the politics of Stephen Harper and his conservative government. Also, the best solution to the opiate addiction epidemic is probably to legalize Marijuana, which the Trudeau government will soon do: this is a promising substance for treatment against pain, and thought not without danger, is far less dangerous that substances based on opium.
Thank you for your reply...
So there is no misunderstanding:
-I know next to nothing about Canadian politics...
-I am in learning mode...
-I was speculating that the left-wing financial modus operandi is to throw money at liberal causes without balancing that with systems which strengthen a countries economic functioning which then allows greater spending on humanitarian policies...
Could it be that the country doesn't have enough money to service its social policies and maintain its economic responsibilities?
Please feed me data...

How could Justin Trudeau be responsible for emergency waiting time, lack of school funding and lack of social programs while those are the jurisdiction of the provinces? The federal don't have much influence on those issues, the provinces governments wouldn't allow it.
As for the rise of the criminality, this is more likely the result of the politics of Stephen Harper and his conservative government. Also, the best solution to the opiate addiction epidemic is probably to legalize Marijuana, which the Trudeau government will soon do: this is a promising substance for treatment against pain, and thought not without danger, is far less dangerous that substances based on opium.
Thank you for your reply...
So there is no misunderstanding:
-I know next to nothing about Canadian politics...
-I am in learning mode...
-I was speculating that the left-wing financial modus operandi is to throw money at liberal causes without balancing that with systems which strengthen a countries economic functioning which then allows greater spending on humanitarian policies...
Could it be that the country doesn't have enough money to service its social policies and maintain its economic responsibilities?
Please feed me data...

Canada is far from left-wing.. at least not like you would imagine. That is only the image that gets projected. There is truthfully very little invested into social programs. Vital services like public education, healthcare and infrastructure have been badly underfunded and people are just seeing ''how much'' as of now.
On education... My Mother and aunt were teachers and still taught occasionally past the age of 65 and they were both dismayed by the decline in the curriculum, children having to share text books and the state of the building(s) themselves. Children are still schooled in portables in many cases, not all even have heat either. When I was in school we wore our coats inside the portable to keep warm.
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Well, both our countries are led by thin-skinned fruitcakes with questionable intelligence. The only real difference is where they stand on the political spectrum. They both need to go ASAP.
It's not just federal politics that are annoying around here though. I live in BC and that cow in Alberta is blackmailing us if we don't agree to risk our forests and other ecosystems so they can get richer. Screw that. Just because their "wilderness" is a wasteland doesn't mean we shouldn't protect what we have. Well, if it's a war they want, they can have one. Also, I'm pretty sure most of our oil is imported for some strange reason, so Alberta can suck a lemon.
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Hey, if they can find Canadians to marry they can follow my luff to the promised land (aka the imaginary country of Canada).
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Part of the appeal to me is that Canada seems to be more Culturally Secular in daily life and in politics. At least that my perception.
As for Trudeau, he strikes me as being at least like-able in a diplomatic sense for meeting other world leaders. I think he does sometimes manage to Liberal/Progressive rhetoric a bit much to the point of being upset if anyone dares call part of Middle Eastern culture barbaric.
As for crime in general, that may be tied to both the North American economy and somewhat to immigration issues.
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Part of the appeal to me is that Canada seems to be more Culturally Secular in daily life and in politics. At least that my perception.
they just seem so much more adult about so many things, compared to the rather juvenile antics of so many amuuuricans.
The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
Funding for adults with disabilities is critically underfunded across the country. I watched a CTV news W5 investigation today that some mother had put her daughter on a list for care for her disabled daughter with cerebral palsay and had been on the wait list for 20 YEARS to get into a group home/assisted care living! She still required a medical emergency to be moved to the top of the list. That is beyond absurd. Adults with autism likely have to face the same waitlists to recieve care.
The wages are dropping, elementary schools are poorly funded especially out west even. Social programs are dropping out of existence, government agencies like the Children's aid are also so badly funded and dealing with a shortage of foster parents children are kept in motels with a ''worker'' to check up on them every few house. Infant mortality has increased. In Ontario OHIP is badly burdened, a wait in the E.R is now 12-15 hours. Surgery wait times for life threatening conditions stretched out months. My Mother waited three months for lung cancer surgery last year (non-smoker) and in that time the tumour had grown from a 1A class to a 1B class (which is almost stage 2).
There has been so many problems integrating refugees that the media also like to ''hide'' or absolutely refuses to report on.
There are so many problems. So many issues. I can't see a positive future for this country.
Wow, this sounds just like Australia!

People in other nations seem to have this strange, rosy view of life "down under", but I can tell you as someone who lives here that what you have outlined above is very similar to how things are at this moment in time, and if current trends continue we will very soon become a Third World banana republic. There is poverty almost everywhere, but our politicians and media constantly deny and lie about it. If you ever go to Melbourne by train, be very careful when you get off, because there's a good chance you will trip over a homeless beggar. They are everywhere in the C.B.D.
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