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Aavikkorotta
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30 Apr 2018, 6:47 pm

I just realized that most of the aspies (or likely-aspies) I know are firstborns (of their mother if not to their father)! And of those that aren't, I don't know how they place in birthorder. Except for me, but my older brother is aspie and my younger brothers aren't.

So now I wonder: is this something that shows up more frequently in a woman's first kid(s)? Is there a pattern to it? (If I get confirmation here of a pattern, should I add it to my survey and contact the dozens of people who have already answered to get their birthorder placement?)

Where are you in birth order, and do you have siblings on the spectrum? If I get a few people saying they're the youngest and have no other siblings with it, I'll scrap my notion.


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30 Apr 2018, 6:52 pm

I am second of two, but my elder sister has some traits. Her first born, my nephew, is autistic.



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30 Apr 2018, 6:56 pm

I'm the older of 2, my brother is NT.


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30 Apr 2018, 6:57 pm

I'm a twin, but am the last born. I heard that with twins, the birth-order is unpredictable. The one kid with confirmed Asperger's that I met was the first and only born.


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30 Apr 2018, 7:00 pm

I'm the youngest. My brother and my sister don't have autism.



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30 Apr 2018, 7:07 pm

I’m the oldest of three, and we don’t know if my brother and sister have autism. My sister (youngest) seems to have less traits, and she is more likely on the Broader Autism Phenotype. My brother (middle) seems more likely to have autism, but he doesn’t have all the main traits it seems. I got the whole deal: autism (Asperger’s), OCD, depression, likely POTS, tics, you name it! :D


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30 Apr 2018, 7:16 pm

No siblings here.



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30 Apr 2018, 7:20 pm

first born here. My younger sister is NT.

Hmmm ...maybe youre on to something.



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30 Apr 2018, 8:13 pm

The first born in my family, my brother, is friends with everyone and is the biggest charmer. Second born, my other brother has some traits for sure. I'm third born, then there's my sister who also isn't diagnosed but struggles much more than I do.

My oldest brother has 3 kids. The first born has some traits. The second born is an outgoing charmer like him and their third born I'm almost positive is on the spectrum. She's a girl too. The traits are a lot more obvious in the women in my family. Both of my grandmothers display tons of traits.



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30 Apr 2018, 8:46 pm

Also first born, and I have a younger NT sister.

I don't think she's a sufferer of any kind, except for stress from a job or some typical teenage heartbreak or drama -- and she's no 'actress'. I see little to no significant AS traits in her, nor any indications of social, communication, or any sensory difficulties that are inconsistent with her age and development.
I see her inside and outside the public, and rare times she confides to me -- it doesn't match the same confusion I've dealt, or any other autistics usually dealt.


Yet I'm certain that she's more needy and somewhat more demanding than I'm.


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30 Apr 2018, 8:49 pm

First and only.



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30 Apr 2018, 8:50 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Hmmm ...maybe you're on to something.

:o

I realized that if I included it with the survey, I'd get overlapping answers for the siblings who both answered the survey.
So instead, I'll have a separate survey only for those who are or likely are on the spectrum. And I'll use this thread as data. But I'll include the results for that with my other results.


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30 Apr 2018, 9:02 pm

I read somewhere that the risk of autism in offspring is higher in older people, particularly older fathers.

If this is true, it would predict that last born would have a higher incidence than first born.

I wouldn't be too surprised if having a first born, autistic child reduces the number of children a person is likely to have. If your kids are a handful, you're less eager to increase family size. If your kids are "easy," you might keep adding more. So I would expect if you compared families with a first born who is autistic, with families whose autistic member is last born, the total family size is (statistically) larger in the latter type of families.

(In my own case, I think every last person in my family except my mother belongs on the spectrum. I was #2 of 4 kids, but I see strong autistic traits in every one of us.)


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30 Apr 2018, 9:11 pm

Aavikkorotta wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Hmmm ...maybe you're on to something.

:o

I realized that if I included it with the survey, I'd get overlapping answers for the siblings who both answered the survey.
So instead, I'll have a separate survey only for those who are or likely are on the spectrum. And I'll use this thread as data. But I'll include the results for that with my other results.

With respect for your curiosity, I'm sorry to say you're going about this research topic in exactly the wrong way. First google "autism and birth order" and see that much has been written on the subject already. (I was right, older parents are more likely to have an autistic child than younger parents.) Then evaluate how good the research was, and finally figure out how to extend the research.

I guess you are not trained in scientific research methods, and that's cool, but I think surveying a bunch of autistic people and asking their birth order, without realizing that self-selection to take the survey is at play, will lead you to wrong conclusions. And why would you want to do that?


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30 Apr 2018, 9:53 pm

I'm a middle child, all siblings have some autistic traits but I'm the only diagnosed one.

My older but not oldest sibling has GAD, SPD and gastroparesis

The oldest has severe ADHD, bipolar disorder, and has had substance use problems.

The other two have no diagnosis.