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14 Jun 2018, 9:57 am
Fay wrote:
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I cant understand why people just go for the looks now days. Thats what we humans mostly do, play the part of a fancy masquerade its funny i experience and observe it from the outside and myself not knowing how to play that game.
I think many people are either NTs or try to become NT, and NTs are fussy about looks and social status.
WtF? Now a days? Uh, you mean.. forever? It's not an NT thing, it's a human thing. People see attractive people and have biological responses in their genitals. It's completely normal, not some strange modern phenomenon exclusive to a small subset of people.
Ah...so you think stuff like instagram as example is the norm. Like Everything is just based on sex, advertisements, video clips are almost soft porns, its normal to dress up like prostitutes back at the 90s when i was a teen yes scantly clad wasnt the norm. You think its normal random people as examle like men sending photography of their genitals to random girls etc. IS Normal?! Yes its all about the looks and success in your gods damn life rater then the person itself. I dont say looks like physical attraction doesnt count. It does at first but its not the fashion that makes you atractive, neither it is your success. After a while none cares in a relationship if your hair is dressed perfectly as example, if your body after ageing still in a perfect shape it does no longer matter that much. Beauty or a career can be gone with a blink of an eye nothing is for guaranted in life. No need to feel offended about other peoples view, it doesnt mean that they judge nor need to be agreed on.
Most of that stuff and more is extremely common as norms in modern day life, especially in the gay community amongst my peers. Maybe looks don't matter to YOU, but there are plenty of people who have been in relationships for 10-20+ years who both hit the gym regularly and eat healthily because they have agreements with one another to remain fit & sexually attractive. Normal is whatever it is for a particular community, relationship, or person. Your views don't apply to everyone else, only yourself and people who share them.
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14 Jun 2018, 10:03 am
rdos wrote:
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Ah...so you think stuff like instagram as example is the norm. Like Everything is just based on sex, advertisements, video clips are almost soft porns, its normal to dress up like prostitutes back at the 90s when i was a teen yes scantly clad wasnt the norm.
Exactly. It wasn't long ago that sex was only allowed in marriage and you couldn't dress like a whore (without getting shunned). You also couldn't select between 1000s of photos of potential partners online, rather you had to pick one you had IRL contact with. I don't think the modern world is more successful than the past. After all, divorces have sky-rocketed and many more people are unwillingly single, which I see as a good sign that things worked better in the past.
Allowed by who? The sex police? Government? Church? WTF? Marriage & monogamy is a very short lived experiment in human history. Who's to say it was more successful? Maybe if you're only measuring by divorce rates. How many people stayed with abusive partners? Or had sexless marriages? Or put up with cheating? Or weren't attracted to their now fat partner? Or disliked their partner's unwillingness or inability to work and provide for them? Just because marriages stayed together doesn't mean they were good marriages. IMO, people having the freedom to do w/e they want w/o so much societal pressure to get married and stay that way is a great thing. More and more people are opting for some form of non-monogamous open relationship, too, which will likely prevent a lot of divorces for those who do decide to get married.
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14 Jun 2018, 10:05 am
Peacesells wrote:
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WtF? Now a days? Uh, you mean.. forever? It's not an NT thing, it's a human thing. People see attractive people and have biological responses in their genitals. It's completely normal, not some strange modern phenomenon exclusive to a small subset of people.
It is an NT thing, and it is impossible to have biological responses in the genitals.
Can you please stop talking as if your experience were common to all neurodiverse people? I've been telling you that for years.
I do agree about the fact that thinking somone is good looking doesn't necessarily have to result in a (e)reaction of the genitals though.
Uh, yeah, I'm with Peacesells on this one. Wtf? I definitely have a biological response in my genitals when I see someone sexually attractive and my dick gets hard & I want to f**k them. That's certainly not all in my brain. And I'm not NT.
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14 Jun 2018, 12:46 pm
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What can be norm is dictated by evolution (but not "the survival of the fittest" bullsh*t), everything else is just a statistical error. Human children need emotional stability to grow, that means love of their parents for many years (10+). It's impossible when one changes their partner often, so such behaviour will never be "normal". Of course attractiveness is important, but to keep the current partner happy, not to get as many sexual partners as possible. Only love is and always be normal (unless all humans will become brainless d***s).
Why are you excluding the possibility of two parents raising a child together while also each having multiple sexual partners?
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14 Jun 2018, 12:52 pm
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They definitely shouldn't "show this side" in front of the kids......
MOST people don't have sex in front of their kids, so that shouldn't be an issue.
I had a conversation with a straight friend from the beach yesterday. He and his gf of 10 years are trying to make their first baby. He still sleeps with other women, she knows about it and is okay with it, and they have a great relationship that works for them. I'm not sure if she sleeps with other men or not - I didn't ask. Many people are finding that open relationships, with clearly agreed to ground rules, work better for them than monogamous ones. This is a lesson many are learning from the LGBT community. "Traditional marriage," works so well that ~1/2 of them end in divorce. But when people accept the fact that they're in love with their partners, but still into hooking up with other people for pleasure, then they find a balance that works for them & life goes on just fine. It's not for everyone, but for many, being monogamish is plenty better than breaking up or getting divorced.
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Why do people need multiple sexual partners? If one needs sexual toys just for pleasure, there are dolls. Nowadays they can be more good-looking than real people, they don't complain, they don't attach. Then why not? Maybe because it's not about sex, but dominance? Maybe because it's all about their ego, not pure sexual pleasure? Why do you think divorce (when love is over) is worse than cheating your partner, just to keep something that is dead already (why it dies is completely different matter, many people mistake sexual attraction with love, and that ends any marriage very quickly).
I didn't notice ealier:
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I definitely have a biological response in my genitals when I see someone sexually attractive
Your genitals have eyes?
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14 Jun 2018, 2:01 pm
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Why do people need multiple sexual partners? If one needs sexual toys just for pleasure, there are dolls. Nowadays they can be more good-looking than real people, they don't complain, they don't attach. Then why not? Maybe because it's not about sex, but dominance? Maybe because it's all about their ego, not pure sexual pleasure? Why do you think divorce (when love is over) is worse than cheating your partner, just to keep something that is dead already (why it dies is completely different matter, many people mistake sexual attraction with love, and that ends any marriage very quickly).
Your genitals have eyes? :shocked:
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I definitely have a biological response in my genitals when I see someone sexually attractive
Your genitals have eyes? :shocked:
Why some people need multiple partners and others don't is entirely an individual thing. We have, however, as a species, evolved to accommodate multiple sexual partners in a short period of time. This is why there are different types of sperm cells that behave like a football team in the race for the egg.. there are blocker sperm designed to attack/block other men's sperm in order to allow the fast swimmers to break through and get to the egg first. Survival of the fittest applies even to our reproductive cells.
I never said my genitals have eyes. I said there's a response in my genitals when I see someone I'm attracted to.
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14 Jun 2018, 2:18 pm
AstroPi wrote:
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Why some people need multiple partners and others don't is entirely an individual thing. We have, however, as a species, evolved to accommodate multiple sexual partners in a short period of time.
No, we evolved to be monogamic for long periods of time, that's why we fall in love, and it usually lasts for at least few years.Quote:
This is why there are different types of sperm cells that behave like a football team in the race for the egg.. there are blocker sperm designed to attack/block other men's sperm in order to allow the fast swimmers to break through and get to the egg first. Survival of the fittest applies even to our reproductive cells.
Why do you conclude it's for other men's sperm? It's also useful for picking the best of the best from one partner.Quote:
I never said my genitals have eyes. I said there's a response in my genitals when I see someone I'm attracted to.
So you need BRAIN to have any response to visual stimuli in your genitals. QED
Science has concluded that these cells attack other men's sperm who have recently fornicated with the same female in order to give one's own sperm the best chance of fertilizing the egg. It's not my conclusion. It's known biological fact.
We need our brains for everything. What's your point?
That doesn't mean that males don't experience physical reactions in their genitals - unless, of course, you're impotent.
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