Planet has until 2030 to stem catastrophic climate change

Page 1 of 8 [ 118 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8  Next

goldfish21
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

08 Oct 2018, 12:58 pm

Change as much as you can as Fast as you can! (or we are all beyond f****d.)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/cl ... index.html


_________________
No :heart: for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.


EzraS
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,828
Location: Twin Peaks

09 Oct 2018, 2:03 am

America needs a government fully run by democrats asap or we're all doomed.



VIDEODROME
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,691

09 Oct 2018, 2:18 am

Things might change if enough property of the very wealthy or mega-corporations are threatened or even destroyed by increasingly intense storms or crushed by record breaking snowfall.



Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,274
Location: Hagerstown, MD

09 Oct 2018, 12:13 pm

Yeah, we're dead.


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.
If my darkness or eccentricity offends you, I don't really care.
I will not apologize for being me.

There is no such thing as perfect. We are beautiful as we are. With all our imperfections, we can do anything.


TW1ZTY
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 26 Sep 2018
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,115
Location: The US of freakin A <_<

09 Oct 2018, 3:02 pm

I hope this whole planet does get ****ed and I hope the entire human species goes extinct.

God if you are really out there and you are listening to me please try better next time, OK?



RetroGamer87
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,196
Location: Adelaide, Australia

09 Oct 2018, 11:08 pm

EzraS wrote:
America needs a government fully run by democrats asap or we're all doomed.
The Democrats would do exactly the same thing as the Republicans (virtually nothing).


_________________
The days are long, but the years are short


EzraS
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,828
Location: Twin Peaks

10 Oct 2018, 11:38 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
America needs a government fully run by democrats asap or we're all doomed.
The Democrats would do exactly the same thing as the Republicans (virtually nothing).


Oh I thought it was the republicans want to destroy the earth and democrats want to save it.

Personally I consider climate change science to be questionable. I know, I'm not supposed to question it.

Image



kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

10 Oct 2018, 11:49 am

There is "climate change," for sure.

The question is: is it caused by manmade agents, or by normal climactic variation?



EzraS
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,828
Location: Twin Peaks

10 Oct 2018, 11:57 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
There is "climate change," for sure.

The question is: is it caused by manmade agents, or by normal climactic variation?


That's what I find questionable. Possibly somewhere in the muddy middle.

However the whole "the world is going to die unless we radically change our ways now!", reminds me of "armageddon is on the way repent!".



AspieUtah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2014
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,118
Location: Brigham City, Utah

10 Oct 2018, 11:58 am

Since Al Gore is now separated (or divorced, nobody knows) and lives in the Marina District near Nancy Pelosi at a house just feet from the San Francisco Bay, I choose to use him as my barometer for "global warming" warnings. The moment his expansive manor sees puddles in its humidor, panic rooms and its "housekeepers' suite of bedrooms" (think about it...), I will grow some concern. Until then, I will chuckle, roll my eyes and wish I had never met him.


_________________
Diagnosed in 2015 with ASD Level 1 by the University of Utah Health Care Autism Spectrum Disorder Clinic using the ADOS-2 Module 4 assessment instrument [11/30] -- Screened in 2014 with ASD by using the University of Cambridge Autism Research Centre AQ (Adult) [43/50]; EQ-60 for adults [11/80]; FQ [43/135]; SQ (Adult) [130/150] self-reported screening inventories -- Assessed since 1978 with an estimated IQ [≈145] by several clinicians -- Contact on WrongPlanet.net by private message (PM)


cberg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,183
Location: A swiftly tilting planet

10 Oct 2018, 11:59 am

EzraS wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
America needs a government fully run by democrats asap or we're all doomed.
The Democrats would do exactly the same thing as the Republicans (virtually nothing).


Oh I thought it was the republicans want to destroy the earth and democrats want to save it.

Personally I consider climate change science to be questionable. I know, I'm not supposed to question it.

Image


Of course you're suppose to question it, that's the point. If nobody questioned climate science, nobody would have any solutions in mind.


_________________
"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos :mrgreen:


kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

10 Oct 2018, 12:01 pm

I don't believe "the end is nigh."

But I do believe in preserving our natural resources. Even conservatives like Rutherford B. Hayes believed in preserving our national resources. Some of our main national parks were founded in the 19th century.

I do know that people could not fish in the Hudson River in NYC 30 years ago. Now they can.



Magna
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jun 2018
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,932

10 Oct 2018, 12:17 pm

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." Animal Farm (MAN, I love that book, by the way. It should be required reading for everyone on the planet).

So many people say we need to do "something" to reverse "climate change" but no one ever seems to throw out many examples.

I'll get it started?

We can't expect the plutocrats, the 1% or jet-setting government officials and workers to drastically pare down their lifestyles because, well, they deserve to live the way they do (see above Animal Farm quote.....)

-The 99% in the industrialized nations should be required to live "carbon neutral" lives.
-Tiny houses, solar powered.
-Electric cars but only if they're charged by solar power.
-Consumption of food approved to be raised in a carbon neutral manner. No more meat.
-Collectively, the 99% exhale a lot of carbon dioxide so humans are the problem. As such, each person that exists should pay a global carbon tax. A tax on your life. A tax for simply being alive.
-Unnecessary travel (e.g. vacations, movies, restaurants, etc) is just that, unnecessary. Therefore those activities should also be taxed additionally.
-None of the 99% should be allowed to cut down any trees on their property for firewood, etc. It should be illegal.
-No more petroleum usage on the planet (except for the 1%). Recycle all petroleum powered vehicles owned by the 99%.
-No more coal usage on the planet.
-Only the 1% or government jet-setters should be allowed to fly.
-Only those that have to (approved farms and the 1%) should be allowed to live outside of urban settings. It's too difficult to police people when they live in rural areas.
-Water rationing should occur for the 99% everywhere, even in areas of the world where the water supply is ample.
-Sorting recycling should be mandated for the 99% by law.
-Remember mandatory high school assemblies? Community climate awareness meetings should be mandatory for anyone over the age of five and be held on a monthly basis so the 99% are kept abreast of the continually changing climate laws and regulations.
-Pets also emit carbon dioxide and are unnecessary. A hefty tax should be levied on pet ownership as a result. The only exemption should be service animals.
-"Climate police"? mmmm too authoritarian. "Climate monitors"? sounds too nit picky. "Earth advocates". That might work. Local "Earth Advocates" should be hired in every 99% community to monitor the compliance of every citizen and be given the legal authority to inspect a 99% property or the interior of their home at will. If a 99%er is found to be breaking climate laws, the "Earth advocate" would be obligated to report the person immediately.

I think those are some things that should get the ball rolling at least?

To clarify, I'm not advocating the above measures be adopted, I'm playing devil's advocate and positing that proponents for mitigating climate change would, I assume, believe at lease some if not all of those examples be adopted.



Last edited by Magna on 10 Oct 2018, 12:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

EzraS
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 27,828
Location: Twin Peaks

10 Oct 2018, 12:24 pm

cberg wrote:

Of course you're suppose to question it, that's the point. If nobody questioned climate science, nobody would have any solutions in mind.


what I mean is those who are adamant about how it's unquestionably caused by man-made agents. And if you express any doubts, then you're part of the problem that's going to kill everyone. Or more simply put, fanatics.



AspieUtah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2014
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,118
Location: Brigham City, Utah

10 Oct 2018, 12:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't believe "the end is nigh."

But I do believe in preserving our natural resources. Even conservatives like Rutherford B. Hayes believed in preserving our national resources. Some of our main national parks were founded in the 19th century.

I do know that people could not fish in the Hudson River in NYC 30 years ago. Now they can.

Exactly! It is the difference between Teddy Roosevelt's "conservation" and Earth First!'s "tree-spiking." Protecting natural resources is huuuge in Utah, but so is the state's mining industries.


_________________
Diagnosed in 2015 with ASD Level 1 by the University of Utah Health Care Autism Spectrum Disorder Clinic using the ADOS-2 Module 4 assessment instrument [11/30] -- Screened in 2014 with ASD by using the University of Cambridge Autism Research Centre AQ (Adult) [43/50]; EQ-60 for adults [11/80]; FQ [43/135]; SQ (Adult) [130/150] self-reported screening inventories -- Assessed since 1978 with an estimated IQ [≈145] by several clinicians -- Contact on WrongPlanet.net by private message (PM)


RetroGamer87
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,196
Location: Adelaide, Australia

10 Oct 2018, 4:03 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There is "climate change," for sure.

The question is: is it caused by manmade agents, or by normal climactic variation?


There is a second question! If there is climate change, how much?
Will it be insignificant? Enough to cause human extinction? Or somewhere in between?


_________________
The days are long, but the years are short