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16 Nov 2018, 12:13 pm

Can man literally create God through really advanced technology?



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16 Nov 2018, 1:27 pm

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Can man literally create God through really advanced technology?

We already did, out of Bronze-Age superstition.



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16 Nov 2018, 1:57 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZHNw1MtzI

"Who Made Who";
In Other Words as
Far as Who Made You; Can
And Will You as Human Create
God; Well, According to Cutting Edge
Science and Super Rock Stars of Astro Physics
Like Neil deGrasse Tyson; He Certainly Will not Rule
Out An Intelligent Design of a Much Higher Intelligence of
Being, Creating all of Reality Now as an Abstract Construct That
Humans Have Developed to Describe A Holographic Simulation That Now
Comprises All Of What Each and Every one of Us Differently Experiences of Reality
Now; Yes, True this Video Game, in this Version of Science is Much more Complicated
Now Than any Game that Any Young Adult is Playing in the Basement of their Parent's
Home; while they otherwise might be Doing something associated with Gainful Employment;
but let's Not Forget Bill Gates And Steve Jobs Quitting School and Spending Day and Night in Garages
With Technical Savvy Other Folks to Help Create A Way for each and every Person without a Job in their
Parent's
Basement
or Garage as
that may come
to be Now as Just
Something to do too; to
STimulate Our Brains; Yes, to
Keep From Being OH God Now So
bored Without Meaning and Purpose
iN Life That We Can and Will make Holy
And Sacred too in terms of Actually Feeling
the Literal Words of Holy and Sacred as Actual
Feel Good Senses of Life now Real and so True too
of what Feels Oh So God, So Divine Within and True that is
Right on topic For once Again this Video Game comes with the
Divine all Programmed In For those who Seek and Find the Easter
Eggs of Life WHere Heaven CoMes to Live Within as Real Now too always
in this Generation At Hand; And if You lEarn to Free Dance and Sing Oh God
Yes; at Feat of Feet Now too as Heaven Comes to Be in Nirvana, Bliss, Satori,
Samadhi; the Metaphors for This Real Heaven Within Are For All Practical iNtents
And Purposes Now Just About Beyond Infinity for Humans With a Force of Imagination
And Co-Creativity; as Dreams Come to Fruition That Feel and Sense So Good Beyond the
Nightmares That Humans With Relative Free Will Programmed in Will Seek and Find too
And Just Name
the Essence
of Heaven
Within as something
Else and as Far as the
Truly More Advanced Intelligent
For Metaphor and Literal 'Pimply Faced
Kid' who was created by whatever Greater Programmer
of Virtual Simulations of Reality In Multi-Universes now
as each Human Perception of 'this Game' is a Multi-Verse View
of Each and Every Human too; For All Practical Intents and Purpose You
Literally Can and Will Call the Intelligent Designer of this Potential Holographic
Simulation We live in otherwise known, felt and sensed, what we Currently Name
ReaLiTy As He or SHe or God or Allah or just WTF or Nothing At All For to Be or Not to Be
IS A rather
silly
Debate
When Life is So
Much Fun Eternally
Now; Yes, Great Thanks
And Praise And By God Life
is Worth A Worship For Those who
Do Enjoy All Of What the ReaLity of 'God' NoW
As All THat Is Brings iN All This Great Potential Fun
For We Sentient Beings to Know and Feel and Sense
From Not only Head to Toe but with a Sense And Feel
of Knowing the Rest of What we Observe of this Potential
Holographic Simulation Now; Otherwise, Known Felt and Sensed
as the Essence of Whatever You Literally Desire to Label This And That Essence As Reality Now.
The 'Idea' That we are Just a Random Soup of Whatever All Comes to Be is FAiLinG Like A Falling
Star out
of Fashion
in the World
of Science wHere
Real Intelligent Design
Is Coming to the Forefront
Faster and Faster as our Days
Come and Go By some other Intelligent
Designer with Likely Enough Empathy, Sympathy,
Compassion, and Cognitive Empathy not to Destroy Each
Other and the Rest of Nature With Dark Liars up top; Human
Will be Just Lucky to Survive once they Find the Key to this Whole
Game is
AGaPE
LoVE
All
Programmed
iN With ReaSon
To Win this GamE
Of Life NoW ToGeTHeR
More Than Separate
With Frowns
Over
Smiles Now;
Ha! What Will Be
Even More Funny Is If 'The/A'
Intelligent Designer Programmed
IT 'Self' Into the Game of Each Generation
As Such Just to see How Incredibly Dense
the Robots He made in Flesh and Blood Come
to Be Losing the Key to Love When it is born on as
Date now for those Chosen ones Gifted as Such by
the Programmer Now; but it's True We Do Reap WHat We
Sow for if nothing Else, Karma is King/Queen/Dom in this ReaLiTy Now For What iS now;
And Love is Queen; Even Freddie Mercury who Perhaps was an 'Avatar' too Got That Much Figured
Out as of Course Avatars of the Designer Have It All Made From Birth to Death and Doing it again for
Remember if this is a Holographic Simulation; tHere is Nothing Stopping 'the Designer' From Bringing
the Same Players Again And Again as Actors of the Play of Life That Is This GamE Forevernow With No The
End; if Distance, Space, and Time as Likely Already Been Conquered by the Who that Made Who that is You now.
What A Prize
It Will Be to
be an
Avatar
of that
Designer Now;
Even Better; Perhaps
We Are All Children of the
Designer in this way as even
the Abrahamic Religious Texts
are Starting to make better Science Sense now;
But Hey; tHere wasn't anything Stopping an Avatar
of the Designer From Putting That Literally in Metaphors long long ago.:)

Anyways;
Thanks for the Deep Question;
That/This is What Philosophy is For, Deep;
Shallow, Is For the Science of Twitter, Haiku, And Science iN General.

Any Avatar Gets That/This..;)


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16 Nov 2018, 2:59 pm

NewTime wrote:
Can man literally create God through really advanced technology?
No.

God is a super-natural and spiritual being.

Technology relies on natural principles and material existence.

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16 Nov 2018, 3:22 pm

The question is meaningless.

God is usually defined as being "THE creator" of the whole universe.

Can humans create ...a "creator of the universe"?

The question makes no sense.

What you mean is "can humans acquire godlike power for themselves via technology?".

We are able to do ever more amazing things with tech these days but we still cant build a single planet, much less a whole universe. So no, we cant acquire literal "god like powers".



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16 Nov 2018, 3:25 pm

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how much anime are you watching?

your mother and i are very concerned


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17 Nov 2018, 12:01 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
how much anime are you watching?

your mother and i are very concerned

This.

I'd add, if we hypothetically used a description of God that worked in this context, we could light the match with starts a universal fire but admittedly doing it or not doing it is something we're not in control of and would have had no say in doing or not doing. It's best to look at humanity as a sort of geothermal plus data reaction going on in the universe and the data reaction could kick off more data reactions.

Concern over it though reminds me of nanotech turning the world to gray goo. The world's full of nanotech already and we call them viruses and bacteria. I'd think similarly with God, or even just a god or goddess, it's highly unlikely that we could create something that doesn't already exist no matter how exotic it may seem to us, mainly because there's nothing so uniquely special about us that we could do anything that would be a first.


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17 Nov 2018, 1:34 am

Chewing on similar futurism a few years ago:


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17 Nov 2018, 1:50 am

any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. [AC Clark] :idea: the promulgators of the Kardachev scale believe that there could be a techy civilization so advanced as to at least be perceived by lowly level-0 humanity, as godlike in terms of the powers of creation and alteration of their reality [and by extension the rest of the neighborhood]. the LDS ["Mormons"] believe that the spiritual elect among them will die in body, then while in spirit assume godlike powers creating their own worlds. at this point one counts how many demigods will fit on the head of a pin of unobtanium.



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17 Nov 2018, 1:53 am

Only if the simulation hypothesis is true. If we're in a simulation than God could be either an avatar of the man running the simulation or God himself could be a simulated being who is unaware of the fact that he's being simulated.

If the simulation hypothesis is true than after we "die" we could wake up in a simulated Heaven or a simulated Hell where we would remain for all eternity or at least until the simulation is terminated.


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17 Nov 2018, 1:58 am

that is one tack. I like the notion that The Metaverse is just an unimaginably grand thought. :idea:



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17 Nov 2018, 5:52 am

Sufficiently advanced technology allows us to create essentially omniscient intelligence which can transcend time, which then causes the universe to play out in such a way that it ensures its own creation. Better yet: universe is destroyed by gray goo which somehow develops collective intelligence and architects a universe made from specialized mutations of itself based on the knowledge and myths of its creators. Bing-bang-boom: omnipresence. You heard it here kids: stick it to atheists by creating a time-travelling super-being who creates the universe via a stable time loop.

Joking aside, this calls to mind a great (very) short story by Fredric Brown, "Answer":

Dwan Ev ceremoniously soldered the final connection with gold. The eyes of a dozen television cameras watched him and the subether bore throughout the universe a dozen pictures of what he was doing.
He straightened and nodded to Dwar Reyn, then moved to a position beside the switch that would complete the contact when he threw it. The switch that would connect, all at once, all of the monster computing machines of all the populated planets in the universe -- ninety-six billion planets -- into the supercircuit that would connect them all into one supercalculator, one cybernetics machine that would combine all the knowledge of all the galaxies.
Dwar Reyn spoke briefly to the watching and listening trillions. Then after a moment's silence he said, "Now, Dwar Ev."
Dwar Ev threw the switch. There was a mighty hum, the surge of power from ninety-six billion planets. Lights flashed and quieted along the miles-long panel.
Dwar Ev stepped back and drew a deep breath. "The honor of asking the first question is yours, Dwar Reyn."
"Thank you," said Dwar Reyn. "It shall be a question which no single cybernetics machine has been able to answer."
He turned to face the machine. "Is there a God?"
The mighty voice answered without hesitation, without the clicking of a single relay.
"Yes, now there is a God."
Sudden fear flashed on the face of Dwar Ev. He leaped to grab the switch.
A bolt of lightning from the cloudless sky struck him down and fused the switch shut.


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17 Nov 2018, 5:55 am

NewTime wrote:
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"God" and "science" are both just other words for reality. People who see a difference understand neither.


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17 Nov 2018, 10:34 am

NewTime wrote:
Can man literally create God through really advanced technology?

Maybe. It makes more sense that a God would appear towards the end of history than at the beginning. Since it must be complex and it takes time to develop complexity.



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17 Nov 2018, 10:35 am

HighLlama wrote:
NewTime wrote:
Can man literally create God through really advanced technology?


"God" and "science" are both just other words for reality. People who see a difference understand neither.

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