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12 Dec 2018, 11:45 pm

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13 Dec 2018, 2:23 pm

kokopelli wrote:
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Russian bot farms.


Where the pee tape is hidden.


Which may be a red herring. The fact that Trump laundered money for Russia is much more damning.


Not seen you mention that the Clintons took over 100 million from a Kremlin bank while selling off 20% of the US's Uranium.


Talk of the Uranium deal from the Trump/Republican perspective is BS as I understand it. I concede I know little of the details about this. If there was anything to it, I would think a full blown investigation would be carried out against the Clintons, as the Republicans are running the show. But the Republicans are doing nothing more than yelling unfounded charges, which tells me there's nothing there.


You're right. The Trump fans talk like we are shipping our Uranium to Russian.

The fact is that the Russians bought a company that has large amounts of uranium around the world. If I remember correctly, they were mainly interested in the large deposits in the Ukraine owned by that company. As for uranium in the United States, that uranium is subject to very strong export controls. The odds of the company getting permission from the US government to ship uranium to Russia is vanishingly small.


"Vanishingly small" yet the evidence is right there in the link I posted.


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13 Dec 2018, 2:25 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
kokopelli wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Russian bot farms.


Where the pee tape is hidden.


Which may be a red herring. The fact that Trump laundered money for Russia is much more damning.


Not seen you mention that the Clintons took over 100 million from a Kremlin bank while selling off 20% of the US's Uranium.


Talk of the Uranium deal from the Trump/Republican perspective is BS as I understand it. I concede I know little of the details about this. If there was anything to it, I would think a full blown investigation would be carried out against the Clintons, as the Republicans are running the show. But the Republicans are doing nothing more than yelling unfounded charges, which tells me there's nothing there.


You're right. The Trump fans talk like we are shipping our Uranium to Russian.

The fact is that the Russians bought a company that has large amounts of uranium around the world. If I remember correctly, they were mainly interested in the large deposits in the Ukraine owned by that company. As for uranium in the United States, that uranium is subject to very strong export controls. The odds of the company getting permission from the US government to ship uranium to Russia is vanishingly small.


Thank you. 8)


Thanks for what? He just denied the evidence.


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13 Dec 2018, 2:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Russian bot farms.


Where the pee tape is hidden.


Which may be a red herring. The fact that Trump laundered money for Russia is much more damning.


Not seen you mention that the Clintons took over 100 million from a Kremlin bank while selling off 20% of the US's Uranium.


Talk of the Uranium deal from the Trump/Republican perspective is BS as I understand it. I concede I know little of the details about this. If there was anything to it, I would think a full blown investigation would be carried out against the Clintons, as the Republicans are running the show. But the Republicans are doing nothing more than yelling unfounded charges, which tells me there's nothing there.


As you understand it, won't disagree with that. Haha are you serious? The Clintons have got away with so much it's unreal. A lot of Republicans still wish Clinton won.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/press-release


You don't seriously expect me to take anything Wikileaks says as legit, do you?


See I knew you'd do that. This is why you will never learn or change. You didn't even bother to read it. In the piece it links to a story about this issue from the New York Times. So now what will your excuse be for denying the truth?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/c ... .html?_r=0


Kokopelli gave more than enough of a concise explanation. Trumpanzees and Wikileakers don't have a leg to stand on.


No he didn't, he just said it was unlikely even though the evidence is in the link. You and him just don't like reality. Neither of you even bothered to read the link. You don't have a leg to stand on. It's great how people with your ideology talk about not dehumanizing foreign gangs like MS-13 yet you liken American Trump voters to monkeys.


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13 Dec 2018, 3:39 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Russian bot farms.


Where the pee tape is hidden.


Which may be a red herring. The fact that Trump laundered money for Russia is much more damning.


Not seen you mention that the Clintons took over 100 million from a Kremlin bank while selling off 20% of the US's Uranium.


Talk of the Uranium deal from the Trump/Republican perspective is BS as I understand it. I concede I know little of the details about this. If there was anything to it, I would think a full blown investigation would be carried out against the Clintons, as the Republicans are running the show. But the Republicans are doing nothing more than yelling unfounded charges, which tells me there's nothing there.


As you understand it, won't disagree with that. Haha are you serious? The Clintons have got away with so much it's unreal. A lot of Republicans still wish Clinton won.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/press-release


You don't seriously expect me to take anything Wikileaks says as legit, do you?


See I knew you'd do that. This is why you will never learn or change. You didn't even bother to read it. In the piece it links to a story about this issue from the New York Times. So now what will your excuse be for denying the truth?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/c ... .html?_r=0


Kokopelli gave more than enough of a concise explanation. Trumpanzees and Wikileakers don't have a leg to stand on.


No he didn't, he just said it was unlikely even though the evidence is in the link. You and him just don't like reality. Neither of you even bothered to read the link. You don't have a leg to stand on. It's great how people with your ideology talk about not dehumanizing foreign gangs like MS-13 yet you liken American Trump voters to monkeys.


MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


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13 Dec 2018, 4:40 pm

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MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.



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13 Dec 2018, 9:13 pm

EzraS wrote:
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MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


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13 Dec 2018, 9:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


What's it called when group A does or says the same things they accuse and condemn group B for?



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13 Dec 2018, 9:36 pm

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


What's it called when group A does or says the same things they accuse and condemn group B for?


Any black American can tell you that calling someone an ape as a racial slur is far worse than describing someone as dumb with the ape slur.


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13 Dec 2018, 9:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


What's it called when group A does or says the same things they accuse and condemn group B for?


Any black American can tell you that calling someone an ape as a racial slur is far worse than describing someone as dumb with the ape slur.


True. But what's it called when group A does or says the same kinds of things they accuse and condemn group B for? Using the same tactics in reverse?



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14 Dec 2018, 12:06 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


What's it called when group A does or says the same things they accuse and condemn group B for?


Any black American can tell you that calling someone an ape as a racial slur is far worse than describing someone as dumb with the ape slur.


True. But what's it called when group A does or says the same kinds of things they accuse and condemn group B for? Using the same tactics in reverse?


What? Hypocrisy? I don't think it is.


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So you're saying any die hard Trump fan are apes? You're calling black die hard fans of Trump apes are you?


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So you're saying any die hard Trump fan are apes? You're calling black die hard fans of Trump apes are you?


Methinks you're trying to get me banned.


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So you're saying any die hard Trump fan are apes? You're calling black die hard fans of Trump apes are you?

The aspie in me requires me to point out that all humans are a kind of ape.



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14 Dec 2018, 11:07 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MS-13 was founded on American soil and was exported to Latin America, so it's hardly foreign. Besides, that particular gang, while known for being especially savage, are hardly particularly large, and constitutes the Latino bogeyman the right needs to scare the Trumpanzees into line.
Did you have any objection to the right dehumanizing the Obama family as monkeys and apes?


Ah fighting fire with fire.


African Americans have been dehumanized as apes for centuries because of the color of their skin, and the fact that they originated in Africa. With Trump supporters, it's only because of how they act and think.


What's it called when group A does or says the same things they accuse and condemn group B for?


Trump supporters are not compared to apes due to their skin color. Comparing someone to an ape to imply they are acting dumb is not the same thing as comparing someone to an ape because they are black. I hate to be technical...but you know I have aspergers. Also, though personally I don't like comparing Trump or his supporters to apes its an insult to the great apes.


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14 Dec 2018, 11:53 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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So you're saying any die hard Trump fan are apes? You're calling black die hard fans of Trump apes are you?


Methinks you're trying to get me banned.


I'd have reported you a long time ago if I wanted to do that. I'm trying to get you to be more mature and take on people's arguments rather than calling them silly names.


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