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Do you agree with the findings of the APA?
Completely Agree 29%  29%  [ 10 ]
Mostly Agree 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
Undecided / Don't know 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Mostly Disagree 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Completely Disagree 26%  26%  [ 9 ]
Just gimme your ice cream, wimp! 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 34

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21 Jan 2019, 7:33 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Yes--so science, much method.


It's common knowledge that the humanities have been taken over by neo-Marxist propagandists.

It's commonly known that many "studies" published since WW2 on matters like race are barely more than Marxist demagoguery and have as much to do with science as Creationism or Flat-Earthism.

Either way, this doesn't change the fact that 90% of experts still acknowledge a genetic component to international IQ gaps. Also from Wikipedia :

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In 2016, Rindermann, Becker & Coyle (2016) attempted to replicate the findings of Snyderman & Rothman (1987) by surveying 71 psychology experts on the causes of international differences in cognitive test scores. They found that the experts surveyed ranked education as the most important factor of these differences, with genetics in second place (accounting in average for 15% of the gap, with high variability in estimates among experts) and health, wealth, geography, climate, and politics as the next most important factors. About 90% of experts in the survey believed there was a genetic component to international IQ gaps.


For some actual science on racial differences in cognitive ability, see eg. this 60 page 2005 article by Rushton & Jenson, which summarizes 30 years of actual scientific research into this matter.

But I bet you don't care about the actual science. You'll just call it "racist" and ignore it... because that's what you've done with every argument that contradicts your prejudices to far.



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21 Jan 2019, 8:03 pm

aspiesavant wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Yes--so science, much method.


It's common knowledge that the humanities have been taken over by neo-Marxist propagandists.

It's commonly known that many "studies" published since WW2 on matters like race are barely more than Marxist demagoguery and have as much to do with science as Creationism or Flat-Earthism.

Either way, this doesn't change the fact that 90% of experts still acknowledge a genetic component to international IQ gaps. Also from Wikipedia :

Wikipedia wrote:
In 2016, Rindermann, Becker & Coyle (2016) attempted to replicate the findings of Snyderman & Rothman (1987) by surveying 71 psychology experts on the causes of international differences in cognitive test scores. They found that the experts surveyed ranked education as the most important factor of these differences, with genetics in second place (accounting in average for 15% of the gap, with high variability in estimates among experts) and health, wealth, geography, climate, and politics as the next most important factors. About 90% of experts in the survey believed there was a genetic component to international IQ gaps.


For some actual science on racial differences in cognitive ability, see eg. this 60 page 2005 article by Rushton & Jenson, which summarizes 30 years of actual scientific research into this matter.

But I bet you don't care about the actual science. You'll just call it "racist" and ignore it... because that's what you've done with every argument that contradicts your prejudices to far.


You still think IQ is a valid measure of intelligence. That's so adorable! :lol:

You are an endless font of entertainment, it's really wonderful. Go ahead, tell me more about "international IQ gaps", please do. I'm really enjoying this. You guys make me giggle with your earnestness. :lol:



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21 Jan 2019, 8:08 pm

Tell me more about "neo-Marxist propagandists/cultural Marxism"--I love the dogwhistle buzzwords you guys always fall back on. You're like impressionable teenagers with your slang that makes you feel like you're part of the in group, it's so cute!



I think I get almost as much entertainment value out of you guys as Harris does. :lol:



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21 Jan 2019, 8:15 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You still think IQ is a valid measure of intelligence.


It's not a perfect measure, but it's still one of the better measures we've got.

And if we look at eg. SAT scores, we see a very similar racial distribution.

I suppose you don't consider SAT scores a valid measure of intelligence either?

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Tell me more about "neo-Marxist propagandists/cultural Marxism"


Why should I bother?

You seem to have only two responses to facts you don't like : laughter & namecalling.



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21 Jan 2019, 8:28 pm

aspiesavant wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You still think IQ is a valid measure of intelligence.


It's not a perfect measure, but it's still one of the better measures we've got.

And if we look at eg. SAT scores, we see a very similar racial distribution.

I suppose you don't consider SAT scores a valid measure of intelligence either?

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Tell me more about "neo-Marxist propagandists/cultural Marxism"


Why should I bother?

You seem to have only two responses to facts you don't like : laughter & namecalling.


I said you're like an impressionable teenager--what a mean name to call someone! I'm such a meanie. :twisted:

Ah, you're too easy bro!

Come on, inform me on all the ways society is being destroyed by the "cultural Marxists", pretty please. I really want you to share your totally-not-racist ideas, state them as clearly as you can to make your case. I want to see if you can do that without contravening the site rules, it should be a fun challenge for you. Use all the totally-not-racist alt-right ethnonational dogwhistles that get your motor running! Type it with one hand if you have to. :wink: :lol:

Tell me how I'm a degenerate neo-Marxist who wants to see the world burn, tell me that the white race is scientifically better than everyone else because you say so, come on, have some courage to state your real beliefs and see if it stands up to moderation. I triple dog dare you! :lol:



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21 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm

:scratch: Racist baiting? That's rare, I'm so confused.

How many partisans does it take to decide how many genders there are?


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21 Jan 2019, 9:25 pm

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21 Jan 2019, 9:47 pm

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:scratch: Racist baiting? That's rare, I'm so confused.

How many partisans does it take to decide how many genders there are?


Anti-racism is a partisan stance now?

That's....an interesting take.



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21 Jan 2019, 10:57 pm

No I just saw a bunch of standoffish/confusing posts & I was snarking. That's not the topic of the thread anyway.


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21 Jan 2019, 11:09 pm

cberg wrote:
No I just saw a bunch of standoffish/confusing posts & I was snarking. That's not the topic of the thread anyway.


His views on gender are just as "enlightened" and "based in science" as his views on race, so I didn't make a distinction for the sake of the thread topic.



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22 Jan 2019, 12:05 am

GCSE math section and SAT math section are a mistake, way too easy on students .



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22 Jan 2019, 2:02 am

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GCSE math section and SAT math section are a mistake, way too easy on students .


america heavily relies on elite intellectuals for scientific breakthroughs, for laymen math didn't mean that much..
when the robots and automatons arrive there should be a better-than-now command on math/science literacy imo..
elites go straight to AP and Alevel s, that's where they don't even wave goodbye to the lowerlings.. the difficulty of sat /gcse math sections for laymen is definitely subpar comparing to international peers.. it created a very anti-science atmosphere in the whole american society, at one time it was all about finance majors, public relations, floral designs and rap shows.. then if one raises the difficulty at this time it would alienate certain demographics.. normally if we don't love america we just say nothing and sit back and watch like the rest of the world does..



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22 Jan 2019, 2:22 am

I have a visceral reaction of ableism and other types of bully mentality.



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22 Jan 2019, 5:30 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Anti-racism is a partisan stance now?


If you go on calling everyone who does not support "multiculturalism" or mass migration a "racist", then yes... being against that is a partisan stance... and one based on ignorance!

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Come on, inform me on all the ways society is being destroyed by the "cultural Marxists", pretty please.


Just do some ****ing research.

You've heard of that, right?

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
tell me that the white race is scientifically better than everyone else because you say so, come on


Maybe Whites were superior to other races before two world ways destroyed millions of the the White race's best men.

Today, Asians (and East-Asians in particular) have clearly surpassed Whites.

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But you don't care about facts, I know.



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22 Jan 2019, 9:45 am

Due to the toxic masculinity inherent in many of the posts in this thread, I have requested SaveFerris to lock it.



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22 Jan 2019, 9:48 am

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Due to the toxic masculinity inherent in many of the posts in this thread, I have requested SaveFerris to lock it.


Due to you being uncomfortable with politically incorrect facts, you mean?

Why is it you reality deniers love to shut down every discussion that debunks your nonsense?

What makes you so afraid to face the facts and learn from them?

Admitting you're wrong doesn't hurt and can in fact be a valuable experience. You might want to give it a try...