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11 Feb 2019, 1:41 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAeD2UEYaAk

Considering it is Valentine's Week, it seemed Appropriate
to Drop by the 'Wrong Planet' in the Politics, Philosophy, and
Religion Section to Pose this Question: 'What is Your Philosophy of Love?"
All Responses are Welcome, Including 'Love' is a Hoax and Does not Exist to Poems
For Cats for Your Philosophy of Love in Doing Just That, too; For Example:

We Had to Put our Beloved Cat Down And As We Grow Older
We Have to Do that More and More if We Do not Give up on Love
And Keep Giving Love a Chance With the Very Next Cat We Give a Forever Home too.

So this is what i said about my Cat (Yellow Boy) Last Week;
My Philosophy About Love When Putting Our Beloved Cat Down:

We Will Bring You Love And Peace Now
Through Your Last Blink And Breath Of
Purr From Your Life Long Labor Of Love
One With Nature God As Same
Golden Fur Aqua Eyes Of Free
And Fearless Wild Love
You Spent Your Last
Day in The Sun
We Love You
More than
Death
We Will Carry
The Last Cross For You
Unlike my Mother And Only
Son Tethered to A Bed
Love How Do i Tell
You How
Much i Do
Circling my Heart
With Paws of Love
Standing on my Chest
You’ve Lost So Much Weight
Never The Less Love No Size
You Bring me A Snack Of Purr
So Early In The Morning Your
Bones Are Weary Barely Breathing.

In regard to Grief; A Science oriented
And Poetic Mixed Response of mine is:

"It’s Nature’s (God’s) Way of Saying
i Will Make You Uncomfortable Enough
Where You Will Circle The Globe
Looking For Love
Grief IS A Chemical
Reaction In Your Brain
Where Kitty Comfort (Oxytocin)
Is Reduced And Creative Juice (Dopamine)
Goes Up For You Science Minded Folks
Who Say All Emotions Including Grief
And Tears Are Only Mush And
For Only Women too
Grief Is The Cross The Blood
Of Those You love And Lose
When Some Folks Suggest That Losing
A Pet Is too Much to Love One Again Perhaps
They Dropped The Cross Over to LoVE NoW AGaiN
Other Wise
Love Dies And
Is Never Resurrected
Back As Life And Us Alive
This Way 'Jesus' (Love/Yellow Boy) Returns
Eternally Now Even Greater As More Of Us
Co-Create Greater Love As Us
Yes It’s Like the Story of 'Jesus'
You Turn Death into Grief into
Life into Love
And Why Is There Suffering
And Why Is There Death
And Why is There
All Of This Grief
Katrina Asks What’s
The Meaning of Life
i Return
WitH
LoVE"

By the Way i Really Love That Cat for when i was
a Shut-in in my Home For 66 Months with so much
Pain and Numb, including the Worst Pain understood by
Humankind "Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia" From Wake to
Sleep; and yes 18 Other Medical Disorders; some of which alone
might put someone else also as a Shut-in in their Bedroom Too; Yes,
That Feral Cat came up in our Yard; And as i tamed him He eventually
Helped Bring the First Tear of Love Back to me after my Emotions went
Numb without a Memory of what a Smile or Laugh Felt like for Memories
are Emotions and Emotions are Memories and when they really Go It's really
Hell on Earth
Within as
it is Hell
Forever more
now as there is
no Reference Point
Back to any Place But Hell now;
Anyway, i Wrote that Cat a 31,844 Free Verse
Word Long Poem with Close to 400 Photos
in Celebration of His Life; no need to link it
here as hehe; this is likely Long Enough Already for Humans at least; hAha.

When You Really Love Someone Like We Loved our Cat you want to see them
Comfortable at the End of their Breaths as Much as Possible for my Philosophy
of Love about that as intimated in the Words i Wrote about our Cat above is, yes;
We Paid the Extra Bucks to Have Him Put Under Like He was Having Surgery First
For he would
never Know
that
Last
Struggle For Breath;
Yes, A Life Dedicated to Pets.
It wasn't like that for my Son
and Mother; Oh how we Value
Humans as Possessions more than Humans;
Again; Just my Philosophy of Life/Love; the Church
i go to totally Disagrees and that's okay with me;
too to each Her/HiS own Will as We Reap what We Sow
in all
matters
Love and
Harm; it's
Like Abortion as
the World Health Organization
Shows Without Legally Safe Medical
Abortions there is only more overall
Human Suffering including the Beings Yet to be Born.

Hmm; i've already Covered a lot; this is what the Catholic Church
Per A Dude Called Saul Who Changed His Name to Paul After He
Went Blind on a Desert Road to Damascus and had A Vision as
Reported Describes as a Philosophy of Love as Written Again Below:

Within NoW
oN EaRTH A Place
Where Love Comes First..
"Patient.. Kind.. Not Jealous
or Pompous.. Nor Inflated or Rude..
Looks out for Others.. Is Not Quick Tempered..
And Does not Brood over Wrong Doing but Rejoices
With the Truth Bearing all Things Believing all Things
Hoping all Things Enduring All Things Love Never Fails..
When Faith Hope And Love Exist the Greatest is Love and
Without
Love we
Truly
Are Nothing."

This is my Philosophy of Love
Below inspired by my Best Girl
Friend. Note: My Wife's Best
Girl Friend's Name is Judy; My
Best Girl Friend's Name is Himali From India.

Giving Her Credit First of course now
for Her Philosophy of Love inspired mine next:

“If you and I both are hungry
And we have just a piece of bread to share,

I’d pass the piece, to you…
As I’d be satiated to the brim,
Just watching you with delight…

If you and I both were exhausted
And we had just 1 warm blanket,
I’d tuck you to bed with a goodnight kiss…
And envelope you with the warmth
Watching you sleep so blissful,
Would be my treasure to behold…

All this and so much more
I’d love to do for you
Not just because I can,
Much more because I want to…
To watch your lips curl up in a smile
For the joy that transcends to my heart…

I only wish that someday
And someday only when you can,
When I wish you to be by my side
To just flash your beaming smile,
When I feel battered down by life
I find your fingers intertwined with mine…

Even when I’d find you missing,
When I wanted you the most,
My sadness would be disguised
With twinkling eyes and laughter…
You wouldn’t see any difference
Because once I love you,
I’d just keep loving you, unconditionally…

When the going gets tough,
When the tides get rough,
When we lose our way in darkness,
You will find me by your side…
I may not be your lover or your muse,
I shall be your friend, always…”

My Philosophy of Love
inspired by Her's Follows Below:

This is my Only Bible my Holy
Grail and i shall Never Forget it
This is my Life This is my Love This
is what God will Say if God is Human and Love..
It was never about me it is always about You You
are my Mother and Father and Sister and Brother You
Are my Neighbor.. And all my other Friends and Family
You are my Pet and the Cow Behind the Fence that i Love
but Will Be Food for my Starving Children.. You are my Enemy
Who i understand was Neglected.. And Abused as a Little Child
You are My Lover Who Takes me to Ecstasy that i never Dreamed
is Possible Before.. You are my Prison Guard my Prisoner we are both
Here to Learn from each other no matter which side of the Barb-Wire Fence
We Wish to escape from/to.. You are the Birth the Journey the Death and the Flower
Who Rises from Ashes With Color Even more You are the Breath You are the Pain
You are the Pleasure
my Food
and
Drink..
You Teach
me more about
Love than i ever knew
and sensed and felt before
You are the One i Thank the most
You live in Everyone You are my Star
You are my Guiding Light.. And it’s True
if i could not Quote You and Write You
None of this Will Exist now.. How
Precious Are Souls for
Souls Live in
All of
Existence
So Bright so Dark
So Cold and Warm
All the SHades of Grey
All the Colors of Home
Yes all the Love the Pain
And Pleasure Beyond Rainbow
Colors to the Bottom of the Capstone
Pyramid of Light the Black Abyss of the
River Hades that Never Seems.. to.. End…
How will i ever Put a Name on Anything and
Everything as Beautiful As You for it’s true You
Bring Me Joy so many Smiles and Laughter You
Bring me Pain and Tears of Sadness Yet that Never Matters
For You are Reality and They are We there is never ever Escaping You
For You are me and i am You and Them are us and Us are Them forevermore now
You are the Mirror of my Tree the Tree of my Mirror More how do i Write A Letter
to G.O.D.
it is no Different
than Writing to Y.O.U..
You Are the Sky You Are the
Earth You Are the Moon and
the Sun and All That Is Beyond the
Stars You are my Dream my Nightmare my Pleasure
And Pain my Night And Day Most Importantly You are me And i am Y. O. U.

Note: i Always Felt the Words in 'The Bible" Are A little 'Needy'
For More Details About a Philosophy of Love.

So i thought to my Self
when i was a Shut-in
in my Bedroom; Perhaps
one Day if i ever get out
of Hell; i might Better Describe what Heaven is now.

I'm only including the Links Below in case you Wonder What Yellow Boy Looks Like:

https://katiemiafrederick.com/2019/02/0 ... -life-now/

This is Him Linked Below the Day We Found Him under our Shed in Around January of 2010;
chances are if he hadn't come up i would have ended my Pain and Never Wrote my First
Word Here or anyone else. It's True; True Saviors come in 10 to 15 Lb Packages or so too.

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11 Feb 2019, 2:08 pm

It depends upon who I love. The other person would influence my "philosophy of love."

My notion-----is that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. You even want to go shopping with that person. Even more than being sexually attracted to that person----though that's usually an element of my "loves."

It's possible I could fall in love without any sex in the picture---but I do enjoy sex.



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11 Feb 2019, 4:01 pm

aghogday wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAeD2UEYaAk

Considering it is Valentine's Week, it seemed Appropriate
to Drop by the 'Wrong Planet' in the Politics, Philosophy, and
Religion Section to Pose this Question: 'What is Your Philosophy of Love?"
All Responses are Welcome, Including 'Love' is a Hoax and Does not Exist


Love does exists...
It is a quirk of the evolutionary process...
It facilitates procreation...
Because human babies are so helpless, having a breeding pair bonded together allows for greater survival prospects for their offspring...

However, to Quote Raj's father: "Love doesn't last...he will find out eventually..." :mrgreen:

But then again, there is also platonic love...
Love of self...
Love of Zinger burgers... :mrgreen:


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11 Feb 2019, 4:40 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It depends upon who I love. The other person would influence my "philosophy of love."

My notion-----is that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. You even want to go shopping with that person. Even more than being sexually attracted to that person----though that's usually an element of my "loves."

It's possible I could fall in love without any sex in the picture---but I do enjoy sex.


<Employing critical thinking>

Love is an emotional response...
While there are other forms of love beyond romantic love, romantic love is primarily a mechanism "intended" <sic> for the reproduction process...
It is inspired by the less evolved aspect of the brain...

Love alters/corrupts/perverts the perception of reality...
In essence, it modifies the individual's psychology to create a mindset conducive to the procreation process...
Since evolution is "blind" there are many offshoots of romantic love which don't involve the reproduction process...
But hey, what can you do? <shrug> :mrgreen:

More mature people who prioritizes the warm and fuzzies of life (emotions) would be more inclined to embrace romantic love in their later life...
Those who place intellectual consideration above emotional needs might gravitate towards Platonic love more so...

Human puppies, immersed/overpowered in/by sexual hormones during puberty and adolescence, are seduced by puppy love...
Evolution is a biatch...<chuckle>

So there you have it...
The Oracle of Truth has spoken... 8)

Quote:
Oxytocin is a hormone secreted by the posterior lobe of the pituitary gland, a pea-sized structure at the base of the brain. It's sometimes known as the "cuddle hormone" or the "love hormone," because it is released when people snuggle up or bond socially. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CH ... 2Wv8XI4tVU


Quote:
Although poets and authors have tried to describe love, in the world of neuroscience, researchers have found that the naturally occurring hormone oxytocin and love are intimately related. Often called the love drug, oxytocin plays a role in bonding, maternal instinct, enduring friendship, marriage, and orgasms. Loretta Graziano Breuning, Ph.D., says that oxytocin is a mingling of trust and physical touch, as well as love-making. https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... -deceptive


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Oxytocin is a mammalian hormone produced in the brain. It’s well known for its role in orgasm, the birthing processing and milk ejection during breastfeeding. http://theconversation.com/the-dark-sid ... ssion-2781


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I'm not here to change the world...There isn't a big enough soiled nappy bin... ;)
Autistic/scout motto: "Give me a better argument and I will listen..."
"Hate me for who I am...Not for who you think I am..."
You have been weighed...you have been measured...and you have been found wanking...:P
"Honesty is not a social duty, not a sacrifice for the sake of others, but the most profoundly selfish virtue man can practice: his refusal to sacrifice the reality of his own existence to the deluded consciousness of others."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8) I'm a rationalist...Deal with it...:mrgreen:


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11 Feb 2019, 5:26 pm

I dont know.

Im not smart enough .

And brothers karamazov was unfinished.

God doesnt want human beings to know.

The only thing i know is that, what is love not..



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11 Feb 2019, 5:34 pm

Love is a mental illness which robs the victim of his reason and the sex drive is a catastrophic drug on a level with heroin. The sooner we, as a species, outgrow these two blights on our biology, the better.


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11 Feb 2019, 6:04 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It depends upon who I love. The other person would influence my "philosophy of love."

My notion-----is that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. You even want to go shopping with that person. Even more than being sexually attracted to that person----though that's usually an element of my "loves."

It's possible I could fall in love without any sex in the picture---but I do enjoy sex.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4Y1ZUUx2g

Hi kraftiekortie. Hope You are Doing Well, and Thanks for the Reply as You say and i quote
you again, in Regard to Your Philosophy of Love, "You want to spend the rest of your life with that person.
You even want to go shopping with that person. Even more than being sexually attracted to that
person----though that's usually an element of my "loves."

"It's possible I could fall in love without any sex in the picture---but I do enjoy sex"

i can relate to this and even though i'm not much for Shopping since my Biggest Hobby
out in the Flesh and Blood World is Public Dance and my Wife's Greatest Hobby outside
of Being a Wife to the Home in keeping all of that in order is Yes; Shopping, so that works
out well for us; adapt as 'they' say and get along. i am Calm Natured and i take Her More
Aggressive Stance on all things Life in Stride; and that's Great as i weigh 240 Lbs and she
Weighs 106 Lbs; by the way i am up to Leg Pressing 1340 Lbs; but still Gentle as a Lamb in
the Home at
least; heHe.

The Relationship With Sex and Love is a Many Splendored and Splintered Topic for Sure in our
Age of Instant Gratification of Porn and usually and sadly Degrading of Women as Objects to use instead
of Heart Felt Desire for Romance, Now. As Fantasy Goes; this is not the End of the World For Love but without
Perspective of Romance Versus Just Raw Lust; and 50 Shades of Grey in the Well Studied and very Surprising
And Often Very Hidden Fantasies of the Female Version of the Species too; Love may come to be a bit more Splintered
than Splendored.

I Feel Very Fortunate to have been Born in 1960 with Zero Access to those 'Hidden Parts' of Women
then; Reason Being and From the Love i was both Born as and Bred into by a Very Hugging and Loving Mother; Women
Became Goddess to me in the metaphor of Trust and Respect and Adoration from as Early as Kindergarten for me.
The Women I was most attracted to in High School, as even Sex for me and me alone wasn't anything i Understood
until 16 Years old; Were Yes, Women who Were Smart and Kind without Any Regard to the Size and Shape of their
Body Parts or even Tremendous Amounts of Aesthetic Beauty; Socio Economic Class meant Very Little to me too.

But True though; With Further Exposure to the Media in Objectification of Women as 'they' Say We become what
We Feed our Minds and See From Head to Toe and more. The Thing is though; i kept the Perspective of Before
Life, where all there was, was Heart to Heart Love; and Yes the After that (AD) When 'T and A' Started to be
Bought and Purchased for most all stuff life. Anyway, I have Zero Problems Loving a Woman where
Sex is no part of the Relationships at all for what are the Colors of Romance Without Very
Intermittent Gratification as Instant Gratification takes many of the Colors of Emotions away
from Dark to Light, so Bitter and Sweet; So Alive in the Waves of Romance; Both High and Low.

Anyway, away From Sexual Connections and the Desire to Bring 'Her' Pleasure instead of 'me' as
Factors too in General in How Much one in ways of Empathy and Mirror Neuron Ways Will actually
Feel the Pleasure of others; perhaps as much or more than Receiving Pleasure that is surely a Benefit
for those who are Born and Bred that way Still for Love that Lasts Longer than one Night Stands too;

Okay; yes, really getting away from the Topic of Sex as in our Modern Culture Sex is obviously
Drowning out Romance a Bit even in the Most Popular of Songs; Hmm, Ariana Grande comes to
Mind/Feelings and Her Version of a Valentine's Song She Put out to the World this Week. I'll use it as
a Theme Song here, additionally, as it does Sing to the Issue of Love as a Splintered and Splendorous
Experience of Life, True. And True, Raw Sex is Such A Bigger Part of Modern Culture today it does deserve
Greater Notice in a Philosophy of Love For today; How does one Escape the Focus of Sex; Where does one go; hmm;
to Find
all the
Beautiful
Colors of Romance
Again in the Eternal Now.


Interestingly, 'at the Club'; yes, the Dance Hall i've been Dancing at for the last 248 Weeks, since i
Recovered from my 66 month Shut-in Illness; i was amazed to Find Slow Dances Almost Gone and
Aggressive Bootie Dances Advanced Toward Men, even Little Old Dancing me; Hmm; Every Middle
Aged Man's Dream i guess as i reach 59 this June; but never the less Fascinating to Study up Close
And sometimes a Bit too Personal for Even me; but again, Humans Are becoming a bit More Like Bonobos
in the Newest Generations For Free Love; without Much Discrimination of Differences Tween Sexual Orientations,
'Tween so-called 'Racial Differences', and Most all other Differences Have Just Melted Away but as 'they' say 'what
about Love', when the Women come with the Women and the Men Come for a while and most People Don't actually
Hook-up for extending Periods of time like they used to in the Age of Front to Front, Eye Gazing Sessions of
Slow Dance When Romance Was more the Rage in Trance Induced Euphoria where a Bootie Dance was
not in the Current Range of outcomes then.

My Best Guess is that Instant Gratification is Killing Romance; however, it is Worth Noting that Romance is
Largely a Cultural Inherited Experience as with Primitive Tribes it is not uncommon For all the 'Love Juice'
To get mixed up with Many Members of the Tribe; again, with much less Discrimination in 'who will come
to own whom' in Monogamous Long Lasting Relationships.

Interestingly too; now finally moving away from the Topic of Sex in Love; as Lord Knows most
Every Married Couple who stays together Learns more about Staying Together without so, so much
more Intertwining of Newlywed Birds; there is also the Philosophy of the Languages of Love; True,
A Book Came out not too long ago suggesting 5 Languages of Love Ranging From Gifts to Words
of Affirmation to Touch to Quality Time to Acts of Service too; That's Interesting and of course
as Love Languages these may all Be Empirically Measured too.

But True as 'James Fowler' in His stages of Faith Leading to the Pinnacle of Enlightenment
Where Love And Justice Comes as Enlightenment in an 'Agape Way' of Love For All of Life's
Existence and Experiences; where all the Separations in a Philosophy for the Faith that Will
Become Love Fall away as Religious and Cultural Devices Spoon-Fed From Birth; and What Remains
is the Source of Love; yes, the Force Within that is more Self-Less and Cares so much more in Bringing
Love more to the Betterment of not only this Generation; but Many Generation to come after this one too.

Maslow, Also Relates to this in His 6 Stages of Development in the Pyramid He Describes Where the 6th Stage
of Self-Actualization comes Risen to Peak Experiences of Flow and Even Plateau States of what others have
Described as an "Autotelic" Flow of Being from Peak to continuing Plateau Experiences of Flow Where our
Human Potential Comes Rising in Exponential Ways in Co-Creativity of Loving in the Entire Experience of Life
And Love in Giving and Sharing more to others now; and in Days to Come as Well where More Folks Get Happy.

When i wrote my Philosophy of Love, i was in the Flow where i most often Stay as well as Plateau
Experiences of Love For all of Reality Dark through Light; and that of course was and still Comes Reflecting
in the Nirvana of What i am Feeling as the Words come from that Source of Chi within as Just Another Metaphor
for Pure Positive Energy (Love) Within to Fuel Life without Any Illusory Fears that Erase the Euphoria of Agape Love now that is a Force that will Drive so much Additional Creativity in Life; as Science shows now in terms of 400 to 500 Percent
Empirically Measured Increases when Folks Seek and Find Flow so much more in Life now in Peak and Plateau ways.

Love can and will Come Extremely Splintered too as to my Shock and Horror and even Beyond that when i could
No Longer Feel that how Horrifying it was when i could no longer Feel the "Oxytocin" Warm and Social Bonding
Comfort From our Pet Cat then. True, He sensed it too as when my Hands came Closer to his Ears they Peeled
Back like i was in a 'Night of the Living Dead' Movie as that is Precisely how everything did not feel then just
Numb and Cold, the Farthest Star Away from Love. Of course, i didn't Know what 'Oxytocin' was then and
it seems then that none of my 'Doctors' did either or Perhaps they were not used to Many People telling
them they could No Longer Feel the Pet of a Cat as that is beyond Sad as Just Plain Empty and Numb.

What is Encouraging is that Love is 'a Muscle' as Well as Empathy and in all things in life, Use it or
Lose it most definitely applies; Again, we are what We Feed our Minds and Bodies; A Free Dance
inspires the Neuro-Hormones and Neuro-Chemicals that Do Inspire us to Socially Connect in
Feeling Warm and Fuzzy Oxytocin Love; Cat Pictures on the Net Work too; of course unless
'they' don't feel anything for Cats or Babies too; True, a Potential Consequence of Low
Levels of the Neuro-Hormone Oxytocin too; i find Visiting a Farm is A Great Booster
too' For there the Animals are not Spoon-Fed too much Mechanical Cognition away
from Social Empathic Artistic Cognition Bringing More of All the Flavors of Emotions
and Senses Within; Yes, by God the Kingdom of Heaven (Love) Within We Make or Break.

i suppose as in all stuff Life in use it or lose it way; we often more Miss what we once Had
And No longer Have, now; Particularly, when it is all associated with the Warm and Fuzzies
in Life for to Repeat again for some Folks who have Never Experienced these Healthy and Warm
and Fuzzy Levels of Oxytocin Release with Self and Others in that Sweet and Huggable Teddy Bear
Love; truly, it all might as well Be 'SuperNormal' For them as they might be able to otherwise Feel How
Love Will Feel So Delicious, Warm, and Free to Give and Share like this; in fact, Conversely Folks will
Do and Say Surprising things in Negative Empathy Behavior Ways to Keep that Love as is; Voila, Folks
who are Still Supporting Trump to keep the Cozies of their Social Group and Home in tact; Or Work
And Oh God Church, now too. Love is a Powerful all Natural Drug; to Lose it Hurts and to Keep it
often means doing what one never thought one might do before; Reminds me of a Song Called
"What You Won't Do For Love" by Bobby Caldwell; Still though, A Romantic Song From Way back 'then'.

My Philosophy is Now is only as Eternal as the Colors of Love (Positive Emotions and Senses)
We Feel/Sense Now for Real and this is no 'Grace as Gift Game' Alone; Takes Work; Takes Practice;
Takes Body Building the Love Muscle of heART; Even more now across the Entire Life Span for now.

While i might Wish to Go Back in Time and Tell Future Fred all these Lessons i have Learned about
Love through Blood and Sweat And Tears and Pain and Numb; it seems that the Dark of all of that
is as important as Light to Reach an Eventual Plateau and Ocean of Love Where Low to High Waves are all
just
a
Part
of what
Love Evolves to Be.
'True Love' is not Fully Empirically
Measurable; True Love (Agape Love) is Real
Magic beyond all Colors of the Rainbow Real.
Seriously; it's not Fully Provable for it is not Fully Empirically Measurable
Now But When One Comes to Be it (Agape Love) in Incarnate Ways of "Plateau Love"
It's Like
moving
from a
Moped to
A Ferrari Real;
nope; not a good Enough Metaphor for those with any Glimpse
of this Agape Love for All for it is more Like the Universe Continuing
to Expand Within as Heaven now and Part and Parcel of it is to Give and Share Free.

Meanwhile, Folks are continuing to Build "External Pyramids" Higher and Higher
True that way is like an eye of a Needle getting smaller and Smaller with a Pyramid
contining
to get
Bigger
with
Less Hope
and Less Hope
of ever Entering
Real Heaven within Eternally Now (This Love This
Love For All This God This Love Real Within) but
there is always Hope for now for those who at least Try
with
Will
even if
all Love
and Hope
is Gone with
Just 'Snake Eyes' Left.


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11 Feb 2019, 6:13 pm

Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAeD2UEYaAk

Considering it is Valentine's Week, it seemed Appropriate
to Drop by the 'Wrong Planet' in the Politics, Philosophy, and
Religion Section to Pose this Question: 'What is Your Philosophy of Love?"
All Responses are Welcome, Including 'Love' is a Hoax and Does not Exist


Love does exists...
It is a quirk of the evolutionary process...
It facilitates procreation...
Because human babies are so helpless, having a breeding pair bonded together allows for greater survival prospects for their offspring...

However, to Quote Raj's father: "Love doesn't last...he will find out eventually..." :mrgreen:

But then again, there is also platonic love...
Love of self...
Love of Zinger burgers... :mrgreen:


I've been Married to my Wife for 29 Years
And 'the Feeling' is still as close as it ever was.

Oxytocin can and will be continued if Nourished properly.

If i can Feel as Close to a Cat for 15 Years; A Wife is Just as easy in accord with Hugs and Petting.

If my Wife didn't Love me and Trust me Unconditionally Like the Cats who have Shared my life; not likely this
would be Possible. Her Name is KaTrina; hehe; Synchronicity, Just for me at this point at Least so real so feeling real.

Science Shows
Oxytocin is
an Natural
Healer; one would
be rather foolish not
to take advantage of it
if they can and will in at least some way.

Love Like this is the Golden Age for Real;
Smooth Flowing Like a Calm Ocean but it's
True Rough Surf Will Be Exciting to Surf now too.

It's Not Always So Exciting Petting a Domesticated Cat;
but it lasts; it lasts; so long so Real to Be now. As Far as Sex goes; oh Lord all the other Avenues for that.


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11 Feb 2019, 6:20 pm

cemil wrote:
I dont know.

Im not smart enough .

And brothers karamazov was unfinished.

God doesnt want human beings to know.

The only thing i know is that, what is love not..


Well said n I agree on each point



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11 Feb 2019, 7:06 pm

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It depends upon who I love. The other person would influence my "philosophy of love."

My notion-----is that you want to spend the rest of your life with that person. You even want to go shopping with that person. Even more than being sexually attracted to that person----though that's usually an element of my "loves."

It's possible I could fall in love without any sex in the picture---but I do enjoy sex.


<Employing critical thinking>

Love is an emotional response...
While there are other forms of love beyond romantic love, romantic love is primarily a mechanism "intended" <sic> for the reproduction process...
It is inspired by the less evolved aspect of the brain...

Love alters/corrupts/perverts the perception of reality...
In essence, it modifies the individual's psychology to create a mindset conducive to the procreation process...
Since evolution is "blind" there are many offshoots of romantic love which don't involve the reproduction process...
But hey, what can you do? <shrug> :mrgreen:

More mature people who prioritizes the warm and fuzzies of life (emotions) would be more inclined to embrace romantic love in their later life...
Those who place intellectual consideration above emotional needs might gravitate towards Platonic love more so...

Human puppies, immersed/overpowered in/by sexual hormones during puberty and adolescence, are seduced by puppy love...
Evolution is a biatch...<chuckle>

So there you have it...
The Oracle of Truth has spoken... 8)

Quote:
Oxytocin is a hormone secreted by the posterior lobe of the pituitary gland, a pea-sized structure at the base of the brain. It's sometimes known as the "cuddle hormone" or the "love hormone," because it is released when people snuggle up or bond socially. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CH ... 2Wv8XI4tVU


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Although poets and authors have tried to describe love, in the world of neuroscience, researchers have found that the naturally occurring hormone oxytocin and love are intimately related. Often called the love drug, oxytocin plays a role in bonding, maternal instinct, enduring friendship, marriage, and orgasms. Loretta Graziano Breuning, Ph.D., says that oxytocin is a mingling of trust and physical touch, as well as love-making. https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... -deceptive


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Oxytocin is a mammalian hormone produced in the brain. It’s well known for its role in orgasm, the birthing processing and milk ejection during breastfeeding. http://theconversation.com/the-dark-sid ... ssion-2781


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcASV2sey0

Actually, Science Shows that Mechanical Cognition also Termed as Human Reasoning in Solving Problems
Withers away the Pathways that Lead to the Social Empathic Cognition Directly Related to the Social Bonding
Neurohormone Oxytocin. Considering that Abstract Constructs and the Complexity of Culture that Requires
So much Reasoning in Mechanical Cognition; as Culture Continues to Progress more toward Machine Cognition
in what it takes to Gain Subsistence in Every Day Life; Empathy Drains away along with Oxytocin Potential in
Social Bonding for Greater Social Cooperation now; more often the Case as Well in Areas of Scarcity where
OwnerShip in Reserves of Resources Becomes Worth Dying for in ultimately overcoming the Natural
Averse 'Trigger Finger Frozen' to Kill another Member of Our Human Species. Kill the Oxytocin,
Kill the Drive to Love; and Flourish the Desire to Kill, So much more in all the ways that
comes in Fear and Hate for Members of the same species.

To Be Clear, this also works in Negative ways too as the Group Bonds.

But on the other Hand, what You Get is a 'Trump Reality' where Folks Bond over Dark instead of Light
in ways of Love with only the Conditions the Group Think allows to Yes Gain a Similar Reward in Oxytocin;
While Planning the Demise of the 'other one' too; As in all stuff Life, the Dark Meets the Light and it us up to
us to Choose Which Path to Go; if we Develop enough Relative Free Will as a Practice of Life to Swim Upstream against 'The Wrath'.

Romance is a Fine Art better suited for those who have the time and effort to Pursue so many colors of Life Beyond
the 'Rainbow ones' in Both Dark and Light, in how we mix and match words and other Symbols to Play the Colors of
our Emotions and Senses even more where a Sex Act may actually be a let down for the Colors that come before that.

Science Shows that Romance is Rather Culturally Derived as Modern Tool of Arts We Create as Emotions
Become more Organic in the Arts we Create to Play the Violin of Romance in New and Innovative Ways.

And then there is
the Bootie Dance;
Hit and Run Cheap
Thrill with only one Color of Lust.

Some of us Dine with a Fine
Wine and other ones are Stuck
at McDonald's in the Fast Food Line.

True Romance; Real Romance is 'Highest Brow' Love.

And Let's Be Clear it takes Vast amounts
of Both Neo-Cortical and Emotional Intelligence
to make
an Orchestra
And A Symphony
'Tween Just two Folks.
Smiles; it's something Worth Recording
While the Art of Love So Far Beyond Sex is
All Play of Love in Colors and Intelligence
Working together For Romance as Love;
The Medieval Nights/Minstrels did it for
"The High Brow Wife's too"; so far so far away from a 'Low Brow' Porn Show.

Some 'Dudes' Don't even 'know' what Heart Strings even are in the Finest Instrument of Love to Play of All.

Trust me or not; i for one, don't Need any body Parts to make a Woman Happy; hehe, nor does 'she' for i in 'A Greatest Art'.

And Finally to Be Clear, i am not Suggesting You Do not Understand any of this; the Fact that You are Aware of the
Neurohormone Oxytocin Spells the Reality that You are Not Afraid to Research the Nuts and Bolts of Love now too.

In Summary,
Pepe; Hope You
Are Doing Great;
As Always i'm just
An 'Actor' these Days in
A Song by that 'Lady' who
Sang "Total Eclipse of the Heart"
After the Dude in that Song Became a 'White Knight' too..;)

For Reference Purposes, i will Provide that Reference Here for a Theme Song too..:)

For all Practical Intents and Purposes; it is also Safe to Say that Women Who 'Hold Out For A Hero' Feel Love THE MOST..:)

Note to Self: Hmm; this reminds me i have 'a Poem' to Write Before someone else wakes up in another "Twilight Zone of L.O.V.E."

It's all About
Human PoTenTiaL
mY Friend; Yes, ALL oF iT;
Both Arts And Sciences Whole.


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11 Feb 2019, 7:11 pm

I really think the majority of ppl on this website are too intelligent fr me to understand



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11 Feb 2019, 7:14 pm

my philosophy of love is as with any concepts : once I pick it apart it becomes surreal and fictitious. I am destined to feel love and simply realise the madness of it at the same time which will further alienate me.


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11 Feb 2019, 8:06 pm

aghogday wrote:
Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAeD2UEYaAk

Considering it is Valentine's Week, it seemed Appropriate
to Drop by the 'Wrong Planet' in the Politics, Philosophy, and
Religion Section to Pose this Question: 'What is Your Philosophy of Love?"
All Responses are Welcome, Including 'Love' is a Hoax and Does not Exist


Love does exists...
It is a quirk of the evolutionary process...
It facilitates procreation...
Because human babies are so helpless, having a breeding pair bonded together allows for greater survival prospects for their offspring...

However, to Quote Raj's father: "Love doesn't last...he will find out eventually..." :mrgreen:

But then again, there is also platonic love...
Love of self...
Love of Zinger burgers... :mrgreen:


I've been Married to my Wife for 29 Years
And 'the Feeling' is still as close as it ever was.



For some people, embracing emotions and relationships are more important than embracing a lifestyle more focused on personal freedom and a more intellectual pursuit...
You are the former and I am the latter...
Neither one is inherently right or wrong...<shrug>

However... :mrgreen:
We are both influenced by our genetic coding...
I simply choose to be influenced to a lesser degree...<shrug> 8)


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11 Feb 2019, 8:25 pm

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Love-not.

They dont know what love is. And i dont know what love is either. Thats why all is full of hate around the world. And nobody has figured out yet.



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11 Feb 2019, 9:36 pm

To me, love is the decision to put a person before yourself. Something that needs to be reaffirmed constantly.


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