Mueller speaks
Kraichgauer
Veteran
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
30 May 2019, 11:55 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Pete has zero policies apart from war.
Who says he wants war with anyone?
He's a corporate Dem. He'll do the bidding of the Military Industrial Complex. Did Eight years of Obama teach you nothing?
These are human beings, not cookie cutters.
Why are you still so enthused about Trump who has betrayed all his promises?
Why would you ask VegetableMan a question like that?
Because he seems to be defending Trump despite claiming to be a socialist.
_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
31 May 2019, 12:25 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Most Americans had never supported Trump, and he was only elected the first time due to accident of the Electoral College, and machinations by Putin in order to destroy his nemesis, Clinton (who was admittedly a lousy candidate). Chances of a second Trump victory looks slim.
Nearly as many people voted for Trump as Clinton with like a 2.5% difference so it can't realistically be said he was unpopular. Also there are hour long youtube video compilations of democrats and CNN type media saying with abundant assurance that "Donald Trump will never ever become president". I don't think the democrats can afford to ident he will lose like they did last time. Also it seems kind of obvious they are trying to impeach him to try preventing reelection. Although I heard that after Bill Clinton was impeached his approval ratings skyrocketed. But as Polosi recently said they don't have anything ironclad enough to proceed. After nearly three years that is. I think if they keep this thing going the way it's been going they are going to end up screwing the pooch.
Clinton still got the popular vote. Plus, many Anti-Trump voters either went third party or sat the election outp, or even held their noses and voted for Trump. With a worthwhile candidate, the Dems can beat him hands down.
I still think it would be in their best interest to put all their focus on their traditional duties at this point.
So they're supposed to just ignore that the sitting President got elected with help from our enemies?
They shouldn't seem to be only be interested in trying to impeach the president after three years of basically getting nowhere. It makes them look like fools who are only wasting time and the taxpayers money while putting them on the back burner.
31 May 2019, 12:34 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Pete has zero policies apart from war.
Who says he wants war with anyone?
He's a corporate Dem. He'll do the bidding of the Military Industrial Complex. Did Eight years of Obama teach you nothing?
These are human beings, not cookie cutters.
Why are you still so enthused about Trump who has betrayed all his promises?
Why would you ask VegetableMan a question like that?
Because he seems to be defending Trump despite claiming to be a socialist.
You seem to be a two dimensional thinker.
31 May 2019, 10:34 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Pete has zero policies apart from war.
Who says he wants war with anyone?
He's a corporate Dem. He'll do the bidding of the Military Industrial Complex. Did Eight years of Obama teach you nothing?
These are human beings, not cookie cutters.
Why are you still so enthused about Trump who has betrayed all his promises?
Why would you ask VegetableMan a question like that?
Because he seems to be defending Trump despite claiming to be a socialist.
First off, where exactly did I ever say I was a socialist? I do support progressives, despite understanding that taken too far, there are negative consequences. I don't support any political ideology 100%. But I want to see a progressive party in the U.S. to push back against neoliberalism. We don't have one at the moment, and I don't expect the Democrats to reform their party. The only option is a third-party, at this point. I will not vote for neoliberal Democrats ever again. Why would I? It makes no sense to continue feeding the problem that led to a right-wing demagogue occupying the White House.
As far as defending Trump...well, I'll defend him if I agree with something he does, and I'll speak out against him when he doe something with which I don't agree. An example of the latter: vetoing the Yemen bill was very bad! Oddly, enough I don't recall hearing much criticism from Democrats about that. I guess because they were mostly silent when Obama got us into that mess -- and all the other conflicts that began on his watch. I was never silent, for the record. By the end of Obama's first term, I was outraged by his actions, and he didn't get a second vote from me in 2012.
I hope that clears things up for you.
_________________
What do you call a hot dog in a gangster suit?
Oscar Meyer Lansky
Kraichgauer
Veteran
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
Kraichgauer
Veteran
Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
31 May 2019, 10:38 am
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Pete has zero policies apart from war.
Who says he wants war with anyone?
He's a corporate Dem. He'll do the bidding of the Military Industrial Complex. Did Eight years of Obama teach you nothing?
These are human beings, not cookie cutters.
Why are you still so enthused about Trump who has betrayed all his promises?
Why would you ask VegetableMan a question like that?
Because he seems to be defending Trump despite claiming to be a socialist.
First off, where exactly did I ever say I was a socialist? I do support progressives, despite understanding that taken too far, there are negative consequences. I don't support any political ideology 100%. But I want to see a progressive party in the U.S. to push back against neoliberalism. We don't have one at the moment, and I don't expect the Democrats to reform their party. The only option is a third-party, at this point. I will not vote for neoliberal Democrats ever again. Why would I? It makes no sense to continue feeding the problem that led to a right-wing demagogue occupying the White House.
As far as defending Trump...well, I'll defend him if I agree with something he does, and I'll speak out against him when he doe something with which I don't agree. An example of the latter: vetoing the Yemen bill was very bad! Oddly, enough I don't recall hearing much criticism from Democrats about that. I guess because they were mostly silent when Obama got us into that mess -- and all the other conflicts that began on his watch. I was never silent, for the record. By the end of Obama's first term, I was outraged by his actions, and he didn't get a second vote from me in 2012.
I hope that clears things up for you.
Sorry, I thought you said you were a socialist.
That third party option aint coming out of the corrupt Trump cult of personality.
_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
31 May 2019, 5:02 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And yet Russian election interference on Trump's behalf has been proven. That's hardly nothing.
It turned out to be next to nothing.
That's unfair. Those $4700 in Google Ads with some being anti Trump and some nothing to do with the election actually swung the election. Billions of people who saw the ads were literally on their way out to vote for Hillary, saw the goofy memes and then became full blown MAGA's. It's an act of war man.
_________________
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
