JohnPowell wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
May was the one who stopped us leaving the EU.
The ERG had the numbers to get us out in MV3 but chose to side with Corbyn and vote against their own party
May's capitulation treaty wasn't getting us out.
It wasn't getting us out on the terms you prefer, but we would have no longer been members of the European Union, that is a fact.
The Custom's Union is along with the Single Market the main body of the EU. It kept us in the Custom's Union forever, didn't deal with freedom of movement or the ECHR. So no, it was staying in the EU without the membership. Really not difficult to understand. To make out the people who were the biggest supporters of Brexit were voting against it cause they didn't want to leave the EU is absurd.
You can keep twisting and turning all you like, but May's Withdrawal Agreement left us, after the transition period, as no longer being member of the European Union. That is a fact that cannot be denied.
The challenge is then to fix the backstop with alternative arrangements, which the arch leavers say can be done very simply.
As i thought, you don't understand the issue at all or are intentionally trolling. The deal keeps us tied to the EU forever even without the phony backstop. Anyone who wants us tied to the EU forever is not an 'arch leaver'. An arch leaver wants to leave the EU and all its institutions and rules and wants a free trade deal with them or the US. I haven't got the time for any more of your games though.
You do this everytime you paint yourself into a corner on here. People are allowed different opinions, people are allowed to disagree with each other, we are all very different with different likes and dislikes, and that is all absolutely fine, life's rich tapestry and all that. Just because someone holds a different opinion to you means you tell then they are wrong, dont understand it as well as you and then you try and make out like their opinion should not even count as you have announced it as a 'game'.
We are all different, it's part of what makes life great.
People are allowed their own opinions just not their own facts. I'm gonna challenge people who parrot establishment propaganda every single time.
I am challenging you Mr Brexit parrot. I haven't seen a single fact from you yet! Simply repeating something doesn't make it true.
People were talked into voting leave by politicians saying getting a good deal would be easy. They didn't vote for expensive food, a huge lack of care workers, businesses going bust and rich men getting richer, nor to further BJs career.
Many people didn't vote at all because they thought it would never happen because they mistakenly thought the British people wouldn't want to deprive themselves of the prosperity and peace that the EU has brought us. And lots of voting age people haven't had a say but lots of now dead people did. If Brexiteers truely believed in democracy they wouldn't be scared of letting people vote now the actual state of affairs is clear. that is Brexit = chaos. EU = stability and properity. Most of what the EU has been blamed for was actually the fault of our own government. In future Brexit will be the go to scapegoat. Somewhat ironic really!
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