Ex-cop Amber Guyger is found guilty of murder

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01 Oct 2019, 11:12 am

A jury has found Amber Guyger guilty of the murder of Botham Jean.
IN this case Bothem Jean was in his home when Amber Guyger mistook his appartment for hers,and in the belief that she was in her appartment she mistook Jean for a Burgler.

Guyger said she parked on the wrong floor and then proceeded to the wrong appartment where she mistook Jean for an intruder and she shot and killed Botham Jean.Although she was a cop at the time she could not explain why she did not perform CPR on the victim.Guyger faces life in prison.

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01 Oct 2019, 4:21 pm

Surely the right verdict. She goes into his apartment and kills him.

However, supposedly he was sitting down eating ice cream and watching tv ???

How could she not see he wasn't a threat?


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01 Oct 2019, 4:27 pm

I thought her testimony seemed contrived.

I mean ... who hasn't walked into the wrong bathroom and immediately realized their mistake (even when no one else was in there)?


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01 Oct 2019, 6:30 pm

After a double shift, tired and not thinking, what person hasn't made a truly dumb mistake? Unfortunately for this young man and this young woman, it ended in tragedy.


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01 Oct 2019, 7:19 pm

She deserved it. I have spent 3, 12-14 hour shifts in a row, while masking. Never have I lost my way to my door... I'm sorry, something just isn't right about this. That poor man. :cry: I can't imagine what he must've been thinking. :skull:


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01 Oct 2019, 8:52 pm

I read into this case. I do not remember all the particulars but there were a number things wrong with what happened that took it away from being a simple mistake. If it wasn't for all of that at worst she would have been charged with manslaughter.



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02 Oct 2019, 12:16 am

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I read into this case. I do not remember all the particulars but there were a number things wrong with what happened that took it away from being a simple mistake. If it wasn't for all of that at worst she would have been charged with manslaughter.
She didn't give CPR even though she was a cop and was trained in it and she was texting her boyfriend before she called 911.Otherwise she may not have been charged


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02 Oct 2019, 2:36 am

So let me get this straight: She parks on the wrong floor, then proceeds to the wrong floor of the building where she finds what she thinks is her own door unlocked, apparently without first trying to unlock it (because then she'd find it's the wrong key). Rather than calling this in and requesting backup like the police officer she's supposed to be, she draws her service weapon and proceeds into the apartment. Paying no attention to her surroundings (again, not her apartment) she discovers the supposed intruder menacingly eating ice cream in a couch that isn't hers and watching a TV that isn't hers. Naturally outraged by the temerity of this intruder bringing alien furniture into her home, she immediately responds with lethal force, and the proceeds to sext with her boyfriend/police partner instead of performing CPR. Oh, and she called 911 at some point.

the hell is wrong with people?


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02 Oct 2019, 5:00 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
So let me get this straight: She parks on the wrong floor, then proceeds to the wrong floor of the building where she finds what she thinks is her own door unlocked, apparently without first trying to unlock it (because then she'd find it's the wrong key).

The door has an electronic lock, no key.


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02 Oct 2019, 7:38 am

So she kills a man by mistake knowing she may have murdered him and then decides to text/sext? her boyfriend for dinner instead of calling 911??

The judge/jury only really has one option here...



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02 Oct 2019, 7:57 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
So let me get this straight: She parks on the wrong floor, then proceeds to the wrong floor of the building where she finds what she thinks is her own door unlocked, apparently without first trying to unlock it (because then she'd find it's the wrong key). Rather than calling this in and requesting backup like the police officer she's supposed to be, she draws her service weapon and proceeds into the apartment. Paying no attention to her surroundings (again, not her apartment) she discovers the supposed intruder menacingly eating ice cream in a couch that isn't hers and watching a TV that isn't hers. Naturally outraged by the temerity of this intruder bringing alien furniture into her home, she immediately responds with lethal force, and the proceeds to sext with her boyfriend/police partner instead of performing CPR. Oh, and she called 911 at some point. What the hell is wrong with people?
Nothing that a few years in the general population of a prison won't fix. She may even see a lot of familiar faces -- people that she arrested, abused, set-up, and provided false testimony against them during their trials...


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02 Oct 2019, 8:25 am

Fnord wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
So let me get this straight: She parks on the wrong floor, then proceeds to the wrong floor of the building where she finds what she thinks is her own door unlocked, apparently without first trying to unlock it (because then she'd find it's the wrong key). Rather than calling this in and requesting backup like the police officer she's supposed to be, she draws her service weapon and proceeds into the apartment. Paying no attention to her surroundings (again, not her apartment) she discovers the supposed intruder menacingly eating ice cream in a couch that isn't hers and watching a TV that isn't hers. Naturally outraged by the temerity of this intruder bringing alien furniture into her home, she immediately responds with lethal force, and the proceeds to sext with her boyfriend/police partner instead of performing CPR. Oh, and she called 911 at some point. What the hell is wrong with people?
Nothing that a few years in the general population of a prison won't fix. She may even see a lot of familiar faces -- people that she arrested, abused, set-up, and provided false testimony against them during their trials...
Like with most incarcerated ex-cops,they will likely put her in solitary for her own protection. She will be escorted to and from leaving and entering her cell by guards,so she won't likely confuse someone else's cell for hers :D


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02 Oct 2019, 8:31 am

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Like with most incarcerated ex-cops,they will likely put her in solitary for her own protection. She will be escorted to and from leaving and entering her cell by guards, so she won't likely confuse someone else's cell for hers.
If it's true that "even the best of cops make mistakes", then I wonder how long before her escorts take a wrong turn in the prison and she suffers an "unfortunate accident".

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02 Oct 2019, 8:33 am

Fnord wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Like with most incarcerated ex-cops,they will likely put her in solitary for her own protection. She will be escorted to and from leaving and entering her cell by guards, so she won't likely confuse someone else's cell for hers.
If it's true that "even the best of cops make mistakes", then I wonder how long before her escorts take a wrong turn in the prison and she suffers an "unfortunate accident".

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Guards sometimes do hang an inmate out to dry,or look the other way when an inmate is attacked,thats very true


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02 Oct 2019, 8:57 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
So let me get this straight: She parks on the wrong floor, then proceeds to the wrong floor of the building where she finds what she thinks is her own door unlocked, apparently without first trying to unlock it (because then she'd find it's the wrong key). Rather than calling this in and requesting backup like the police officer she's supposed to be, she draws her service weapon and proceeds into the apartment. Paying no attention to her surroundings (again, not her apartment) she discovers the supposed intruder menacingly eating ice cream in a couch that isn't hers and watching a TV that isn't hers. Naturally outraged by the temerity of this intruder bringing alien furniture into her home, she immediately responds with lethal force, and the proceeds to sext with her boyfriend/police partner instead of performing CPR. Oh, and she called 911 at some point.

the hell is wrong with people?


Uhm... this is most overt use of lethal force by any human being , and the details ,involved actually makes this situation all the more abhorrent .
How did this particular individual make it onto any police force anyway.?
Actually good excuse to remove firearms from , normal patrol officers .
Acting responsible is duty of all in public . Imho.

And the entire dept there should be shouldering responsible especially her immediate supervisor ..for the concept that he might remotely expect any officer to be a less than over reactive person , if forced to do overtime .

Stress of police work on its best day .Has got to cause some stress in a person.
When you have persons charged with general safety of the public . Would you want them to be best mental shape possible ?. NOoooo , am not trying to excuse her actions but am wanting responsibility of this to be carried by all responsible parties . Ie. Management of local P.D.


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02 Oct 2019, 9:03 am

One of the reasons that she got convicted of murder instead of manslaughter was her unpopularity with the jury.Because she was having an affair with a married man,this made her look bad and that weighed heavely on whether or not the jury believed her testamony.


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