What my tarot cards say about Trump's Impeachment

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17 Oct 2019, 9:00 pm

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The Emperor represents President Trump, and Justice represents Nancy Pelosi.

The Emperor has the Page of Cups in his corner, which I think could represent one of Trump's charismatic allies defending him. Possibly his attorney.

Justice has the Two of Swords in her corner, which ironically resembles the Statue of Justice wearing the blindfold here in the USA and the saying about how "Justice is blind". The swords signify courage and a call to arms. The Democrats are fighting their last stand against Trump and the GOP through the legal system and giving it their all.

In the center I see the Strength card. A woman is holding a lion's mouth shut, perhaps somebody is trying to shut Trump up? Or keep him from further incrimidating himself? There's also an infinity symbol which means that all this mess is going around in circles and it seems like it's never going to end... but it will leave a permanent change in our country, regardless of who comes out on top.

My cards aren't giving me a definite answer on who will win in the Impeach Proceedings, but there's definetly a power struggle going on and things could get ugly.



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17 Oct 2019, 9:19 pm

I also think the Two of Swords could represent a "double edged sword". The Democrats are hurting themselves with this impeachment process in their attempt to hurt Trump.



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17 Oct 2019, 9:59 pm

I don't know a whole lot about Tarot cards, but the Fool, the Devil, and Death should be shown in those cards.



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17 Oct 2019, 10:17 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I don't know a whole lot about Tarot cards, but the Fool, the Devil, and Death should be shown in those cards.


I actually have gotten The Devil and Death, along with The Emperor, Knight of Coins, and Six of Swords the first time I ever did a reading for Trump.

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Trump is no fool, although he fakes it very well. He's really a calculating power-tripping megalomaniac. He knows that his obnoxious behavior will work in his favor.



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18 Oct 2019, 10:15 pm

Do you remember what those positions among the five cards meant or what you intended them to mean before you laid them down? Without that, even knowing exactly what the cards mean (inverse or obverse) on their own doesn't help one make sense of them in context.

If I were to inflict my own sort past/present/future with the 2nd and 4th as proxies:

T4 (Emperor) - measurement of current states (formed by the Empress), the concept here is that Trump was an outcome of broader societal and political behavior.

PC inv - childishness and immaturity quite often, doubt I need to explain this one much further.

T8 inv - deep insecurity, probably in the country in general.

8S inv - awkward and unhealthy truce, stalling or buying time.

T11 - some useful or profound outcome. Somewhat about Trump, more likely to do with setting the dynamics right that caused people to vote him in in the first place (we could only hope....).


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19 Oct 2019, 7:50 pm

DoTheTw1zt wrote:
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The Emperor represents President Trump, and Justice represents Nancy Pelosi.

The Emperor has the Page of Cups in his corner, which I think could represent one of Trump's charismatic allies defending him. Possibly his attorney.

Justice has the Two of Swords in her corner, which ironically resembles the Statue of Justice wearing the blindfold here in the USA and the saying about how "Justice is blind". The swords signify courage and a call to arms. The Democrats are fighting their last stand against Trump and the GOP through the legal system and giving it their all.

In the center I see the Strength card. A woman is holding a lion's mouth shut, perhaps somebody is trying to shut Trump up? Or keep him from further incrimidating himself? There's also an infinity symbol which means that all this mess is going around in circles and it seems like it's never going to end... but it will leave a permanent change in our country, regardless of who comes out on top.

My cards aren't giving me a definite answer on who will win in the Impeach Proceedings, but there's definetly a power struggle going on and things could get ugly.


I am not sure what system you use to interpret cards. I generally refer to "Easy Tarot Reading" by Josephine Ellershaw, because she keeps things simple. Once in a while I use Donald Tyson's system, but my best results were with Ellershaw. Your reading, your interpretation rules. The Tarot gurus teach that each person has their own system. I think really the cards are just aids, the unconscious mind is the real diviner.

I did a reading for Trump's Trade War. I forget what my interpretation was, probably that Trump would have some modicum of success. My interpretations of the cards are pretty much by the book, using Ellershaw as the dictionary.

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19 Oct 2019, 7:53 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Do you remember what those positions among the five cards meant or what you intended them to mean before you laid them down? Without that, even knowing exactly what the cards mean (inverse or obverse) on their own doesn't help one make sense of them in context.

If I were to inflict my own sort past/present/future with the 2nd and 4th as proxies:

T4 (Emperor) - measurement of current states (formed by the Empress), the concept here is that Trump was an outcome of broader societal and political behavior.

PC inv - childishness and immaturity quite often, doubt I need to explain this one much further.

T8 inv - deep insecurity, probably in the country in general.

8S inv - awkward and unhealthy truce, stalling or buying time.

T11 - some useful or profound outcome. Somewhat about Trump, more likely to do with setting the dynamics right that caused people to vote him in in the first place (we could only hope....).


I should mention, even for people who are NOT into Tarot or don't know much about it, they will enjoy Lena's YouTube videos if they are not fans of Trump. She is an Australian lady that does readings almost always about American politics.


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22 Oct 2019, 4:26 pm

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
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The Emperor represents President Trump, and Justice represents Nancy Pelosi.

The Emperor has the Page of Cups in his corner, which I think could represent one of Trump's charismatic allies defending him. Possibly his attorney.

Justice has the Two of Swords in her corner, which ironically resembles the Statue of Justice wearing the blindfold here in the USA and the saying about how "Justice is blind". The swords signify courage and a call to arms. The Democrats are fighting their last stand against Trump and the GOP through the legal system and giving it their all.

In the center I see the Strength card. A woman is holding a lion's mouth shut, perhaps somebody is trying to shut Trump up? Or keep him from further incrimidating himself? There's also an infinity symbol which means that all this mess is going around in circles and it seems like it's never going to end... but it will leave a permanent change in our country, regardless of who comes out on top.

My cards aren't giving me a definite answer on who will win in the Impeach Proceedings, but there's definetly a power struggle going on and things could get ugly.


I am not sure what system you use to interpret cards. I generally refer to "Easy Tarot Reading" by Josephine Ellershaw, because she keeps things simple. Once in a while I use Donald Tyson's system, but my best results were with Ellershaw. Your reading, your interpretation rules. The Tarot gurus teach that each person has their own system. I think really the cards are just aids, the unconscious mind is the real diviner.

I did a reading for Trump's Trade War. I forget what my interpretation was, probably that Trump would have some modicum of success. My interpretations of the cards are pretty much by the book, using Ellershaw as the dictionary.

I don't have an image account to post the photo.



I have a guide book called The Ultimate Guide to Tarot but I think I should get more books on the subject.

I try to read the cards based on my own interpretation of the images. It's been a slow learning process.

I now no longer thing the Page of Cups represebts a Trump ally. Sinces pages are supposed to repersebt young people like children or teenagers, and given the nature of the Cups cards (element of water, powers of the heart and souls, passions - emotions both good and bad)

I think it's possible the Page of Cups represents Greta Thunberg, the young Swedish activist fighting for the environment. :)



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22 Oct 2019, 9:07 pm

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Another card reading I did, this time using playing cards. I picked a King of Clubs to represent President Trump, and the Ace of Spades (the 'Death') card to represent the end of his presidency.

Things do not look good for him...

8 of Diamonds means he is having minor success in financial matters, but only minor. This represents the booming economy people are praising him for, but it's not going to last.

Which leads us to the 10 of Spades. It represents a great depression or tragedy. Lots of pain. Perhaps another Great Depression is headed our way?

Then there's the 9 of Spades. The 9 of Spades according to what I read is especially bad when paired with the Ace of Spades or 10 of Spades as it can mean death (either literal or metaphorical). I also read that these cards can be associated with war or conflict. He's going to drag us into some kind of war against his will and that will be the end of him. I could see it being either that 'civil war' he tweeted about or just another damn pointless war in the Middle East. He'll be remembered for this pointless war that our country does not want (especially after the whole Syria thing with the Kurds). He'll also be remembered for attempting to fix our economy. But will he be remembered more for his success or his failures as president? Only time will tell...

Btw I noticed the King of Clubs holds a purse of coins. Fitting for Trump...



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22 Oct 2019, 9:29 pm

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
I should mention, even for people who are NOT into Tarot or don't know much about it, they will enjoy Lena's YouTube videos if they are not fans of Trump. She is an Australian lady that does readings almost always about American politics.

For a while when I was first learning Rider Waite I'd use Biddy (also Australian), for what BOTA (Builders of the Adytum) lessons I have under my belt I couldn't find much fault in her divinatory explanations of the cards.


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22 Oct 2019, 9:40 pm

The 10 and 9 of Spades near the Ace of Spades is a very bad omen. :skull:



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23 Oct 2019, 10:40 pm

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Im not quite sure about the other cards and what they mean (although both Jokers equal foolish and naive behavior)

But maybe the King of Wands is Trump and the Jack of Diamonds is Mark Zuckenberg? Both can be associated with money and the King is an old man and the Jack is a young man. :chin:

https://www.salon.com/2019/10/21/as-zuc ... d_partner/



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23 Oct 2019, 10:53 pm

Not a believer. Sorry.


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23 Oct 2019, 10:57 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Not a believer. Sorry.

That's ok. :P



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24 Oct 2019, 5:19 am

This thread is intriguing.