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Lizbeth Ann
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02 Dec 2019, 4:26 pm

I’m wondering if aspie women can be extroverted. I don’t want to stereotype Autistic women. If any of you are what does that look like?



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02 Dec 2019, 10:02 pm

The world contains plenty of autistic women

At least two have to be extroverts

You can't measure extroverts

It is for the woman, to say if she is extrovert or introvert



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02 Dec 2019, 11:54 pm

I am extroverted, although I test as 50/50 Extroverted/Introverted (probably b/c of sensory/anxiety issues). I love people, I like being around people (when they are orderly and kind), I wish it were easier to relate. My school classmates reported "everybody knew Sharon", but I was lonely of course.

OP, are you extroverted?



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03 Dec 2019, 3:30 pm

SharonB wrote:
I am extroverted, although I test as 50/50 Extroverted/Introverted (probably b/c of sensory/anxiety issues). I love people, I like being around people (when they are orderly and kind), I wish it were easier to relate. My school classmates reported , but I was lonely of course.

OP, are you extroverted?


I am introverted but I’m really into social sciences. I was wondering if a woman was extroverted if they were more likely to be unrecognized because of the stereotype that aspies don’t like socializing. I felt like that wouldn’t be fair to assume.



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03 Dec 2019, 3:53 pm

To explain a little more my sister is introverted but she’s not autistic at all. I’m introverted but Ive got autism. So I’m assuming that an introvert can have some sensory sensitivities without it affecting their ability to relate to the NT world. In the same way the opposite can be true an extroverted aspie can desire to socialize but can struggle with sensory problems also which can lead them away from socializing. :chin: I learned something new.



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03 Dec 2019, 6:32 pm

Lizbeth Ann wrote:
I was wondering if a woman was extroverted if they were more likely to be unrecognized because of the stereotype that aspies don’t like socializing. I felt like that wouldn’t be fair to assume.

Yes, I think your assumption is spot on. I looked into Autism b/c my daughter is introverted and better fit the ASD stereotype. Then I found myself. ;) My Aspie-like BFF is a high introvert also. I found an old study that noted in the discussion section that many of the ASD boys had very emotional, outgoing mother's and it probably contributed to their ASD (sarcasm: wouldn't any child be driven to Autism by an overemotional mother? apparently my daughter was) ---- uh, maybe b/c some of those moms were ASD also?????



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05 Dec 2019, 8:28 am

SharonB wrote:
Lizbeth Ann wrote:
I was wondering if a woman was extroverted if they were more likely to be unrecognized because of the stereotype that aspies don’t like socializing. I felt like that wouldn’t be fair to assume.

Yes, I think your assumption is spot on. I looked into Autism b/c my daughter is introverted and better fit the ASD stereotype. Then I found myself. ;) My Aspie-like BFF is a high introvert also. I found an old study that noted in the discussion section that many of the ASD boys had very emotional, outgoing mother's and it probably contributed to their ASD (sarcasm: wouldn't any child be driven to Autism by an overemotional mother? apparently my daughter was) ---- uh, maybe b/c some of those moms were ASD also?????

I agree autism is genetics and biology. And so is personality but your right it can vary by person like you an extroverted mom w/ASD and with an introverted daughter w/ASD.
I had a coworker who I suspect is on the spectrum. She had a brother who had severe support needs and was non-verbal. She was extroverted but had a lot of the autistic traits, I’m pretty sure she had anxiety and struggled socially.
I’m not diagnosing her I’m saying this after reflecting about my past. Maybe she is maybe she's not I don’t know. But this topic has me really thinking.



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05 Dec 2019, 10:17 am

Yes, my NT dad is expressive. My AS-like mom is not. I am an expressive AS (non stereotype) - my AS is like my AS-like mom, but my expressiveness and anxiety is like my NT dad. On the other hand my NT husband is unexpressive, and our daughter is a an unexpressive AS (stereotype). My NT son "got" my expressiveness (and anxiety).

Generationally, in my family:
* Expressive went from NT to AS (me) to NT
* Unexpressive went from AS to NT (my sister, BAP?) to AS (my niece)
* AS went from AS to AS (me) to AS :D --- him, I'm missing something there... let me try again...
* AS went from AS (great-grandmother) to AS (grandmother) to AS (two daughters) to AS (two granddaughters) --- all the AS are women, coincidentally or not all the man in our family are NT (husbands, sons, etc.)

This whole AS folks can be expressive and outgoing opens up new territory.



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05 Dec 2019, 5:17 pm

Yes, I'm hoping a researcher can pick up on this conversation and then decide to research this topic academically. I would love to read an article about this.



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06 Dec 2019, 7:56 pm

Personally, I am only as extroverted to the measure of how people are willing to listen to my specified interests. My interests are not diverse. If a person wants and likes to hear me jabber on and on about space science and earth science, then that would make me an extrovert but only around them. I'm surprised I haven't yet been shot. The day is not over yet.



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07 Dec 2019, 11:19 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
I am only as extroverted to the measure of how people are willing to listen to my specified interests.


Interesting.
I've always felt introversion/extroversion was not always super defined (not for aspies at least.) Because I think context can at times play a role on the expression of traits. That's good.



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13 Dec 2019, 12:33 pm

I’m an extrovert as needed. If I have no choice but to socialize I’ll be an extrovert. I’d rather be at home playing Pokemon and listening to AFI.


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07 Feb 2020, 2:03 pm

As far as I can tell, I'm mostly an extrovert. I want to be around people most of the time, including large groups of people. It makes me happy. I do have a little social anxiety because of so many years of social rejection when I was a kid, but the reason it happened so much is because I was always trying to interact. Interacting is still scary, but it usually goes much better now, and it's so rewarding. But just sitting and listening to other people talk is also one of my favorite things. I don't talk very much myself, but I wish I were better at it so I could talk more.


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24 Jul 2020, 9:27 pm

I am an extroverted autistic woman! I feel energized and refreshed after spending time with people. I feel drained after excessive alone time (which isn't that much).



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06 Sep 2020, 9:16 am

I'm extroverted. I love being with people (at least the reasonable ones) and talking their ears off. However I do need my alone time. I must have a couple hours everyday to myself, either relaxing or doing works I enjoy. I'm not sure if that's an Aspie thing or it's just I'm not very extroverted. Socializing is all fine, but how could people read, study, analyze and think without solitude?


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