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14 Jan 2020, 4:01 am

Here are some things about 90-s that I miss.

1. Back in the 90-s when I said I have Asperger, the most likely reaction was "whats that". The other two reactions that were second to this were "its not an excuse" and "you don't raelly have it". On the other hand, right now everyone knows what it is and suspect that I have it even if I don't tell them. I know a lot of aspies might disagree with me, but I strongly prefer the reaction back in the 90-s. At least back then I wasn't stereotyped and people were trying to encourage me to do my best socially. Right now, on the other hand, they just assume I will always be this way and give up on me.

2. Here is something closely related to the above. Back in the 90-s people kept telling me that making friends is important and I didn't believe them. Right now I am the one who thinks making friends is important, but nobody believes me. Perhaps its because back in the 90-s they didn't stereotype me based on Asperger so they tried to encourage me to lead the normal lifestyle. Right now they do stereotype me so they assume I don't need friends. Too bad I didn't see their point back in the 90-s and never took all those opportunities that were offered to me.

3. I didn't know that there is such a thing as internet till the beginning of 1998. The internet addiction is horrible, it holds me back academically. Right now there is nothing I can do about it since everyone expects me to check email. Back in 1998-1999 they didn't. So if I were to go back to 1998 or 1999 knowing about myself what I know now, I would avoid both email and internet and lead a happy life.

4. Back in the 90-s nobody expected me to be tech savvy, now they do. I am still bad at technology. I struggle when it comes to power point and prefer to do the talks on transparencies. Yes, they let me do it, but I stand out. Back in the 90-s I wouldn't have. And, by the same token, my current thesis advisor is mad at me because I wouldn't learn how to do math calculations on various computer programs -- he wants me to learn either matematica or matlab or maple, he doesn't care which one, he just wants me to learn one of them. But I find it super difficult. Back in the 90s nobody would have expected me to do it.

5. Back in the 90s people thought of orange juice as healthy, right now they came up with all those nitpicky theories why it isn't. Well, if you want to be nitpicky you can prove that just about anything and everything is unhealthy. Sometimes we just have to use common sense, and the fact that orange juice is healthy is part of common sense. But I guess people nowdays don't have common sense any more that they used to have back in the 90s. I guess internet brainwashed them or something.

6. Nowdays there are all those security cameras, they put microchips into passports, and so forth. As a Christian, it makes me worried about mark of the beast coming. Back in the 90-s they didn't have any of those security measures. We could go to airplane without taking off our shoes. And passports didn't have microchips in them either.

7. Last but not least: back in the 90-s I was in my teens so I had life ahead of me. Now I am 40. Well I don't look back to early 90-s (too much bullying at school and babying by my parents), I more look back to late 90-s, like 97 is my favorite, but 98 and 99 are okay too. So I guess it is weird to say that being 18 or 19 is still teen, but anyway I really miss it.



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14 Jan 2020, 4:07 am

the 90s were a simpler time, no doubt.



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14 Jan 2020, 5:23 am

QFT wrote:
Here are some things about 90-s that I miss.

1. Back in the 90-s when I said I have Asperger, the most likely reaction was "whats that". The other two reactions that were second to this were "its not an excuse" and "you don't raelly have it". On the other hand, right now everyone knows what it is and suspect that I have it even if I don't tell them. I know a lot of aspies might disagree with me, but I strongly prefer the reaction back in the 90-s. At least back then I wasn't stereotyped and people were trying to encourage me to do my best socially. Right now, on the other hand, they just assume I will always be this way and give up on me.

2. Here is something closely related to the above. Back in the 90-s people kept telling me that making friends is important and I didn't believe them. Right now I am the one who thinks making friends is important, but nobody believes me. Perhaps its because back in the 90-s they didn't stereotype me based on Asperger so they tried to encourage me to lead the normal lifestyle. Right now they do stereotype me so they assume I don't need friends. Too bad I didn't see their point back in the 90-s and never took all those opportunities that were offered to me.

3. I didn't know that there is such a thing as internet till the beginning of 1998. The internet addiction is horrible, it holds me back academically. Right now there is nothing I can do about it since everyone expects me to check email. Back in 1998-1999 they didn't. So if I were to go back to 1998 or 1999 knowing about myself what I know now, I would avoid both email and internet and lead a happy life.

4. Back in the 90-s nobody expected me to be tech savvy, now they do. I am still bad at technology. I struggle when it comes to power point and prefer to do the talks on transparencies. Yes, they let me do it, but I stand out. Back in the 90-s I wouldn't have. And, by the same token, my current thesis advisor is mad at me because I wouldn't learn how to do math calculations on various computer programs -- he wants me to learn either matematica or matlab or maple, he doesn't care which one, he just wants me to learn one of them. But I find it super difficult. Back in the 90s nobody would have expected me to do it.

5. Back in the 90s people thought of orange juice as healthy, right now they came up with all those nitpicky theories why it isn't. Well, if you want to be nitpicky you can prove that just about anything and everything is unhealthy. Sometimes we just have to use common sense, and the fact that orange juice is healthy is part of common sense. But I guess people nowdays don't have common sense any more that they used to have back in the 90s. I guess internet brainwashed them or something.

6. Nowdays there are all those security cameras, they put microchips into passports, and so forth. As a Christian, it makes me worried about mark of the beast coming. Back in the 90-s they didn't have any of those security measures. We could go to airplane without taking off our shoes. And passports didn't have microchips in them either.

7. Last but not least: back in the 90-s I was in my teens so I had life ahead of me. Now I am 40. Well I don't look back to early 90-s (too much bullying at school and babying by my parents), I more look back to late 90-s, like 97 is my favorite, but 98 and 99 are okay too. So I guess it is weird to say that being 18 or 19 is still teen, but anyway I really miss it.


As a 90's guy myself I can get behind everything you said except the orange juice thing. orange juice is 100% not healthy. As someone who used to do bodybuilding I can verify that no serious bodybuilder or exercise enthusiast worth his/her salt drink orange juice. orange juice has too many refined sugars and other chemicals in it, if you dont believe me check the nutrition facts on your next orange juice carton. If you still dont believe me how about you hit the gym and observe yourself whether orange juice has a negative effect on your own body or not and if you can lift heavier and run longer while drinking orange juice or without it


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14 Jan 2020, 5:28 am

ANY fruit juice is loaded with sugar and to be avoided. and whole wheat has a surprising amount of natural sugars in it.



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14 Jan 2020, 5:51 am

salad wrote:
As a 90's guy myself


But it says you are 23, so you were like less than 3 year old in the 90-s. How do you remember your early childhood so well? Or are you saying you put down the wrong age?

salad wrote:
If you still dont believe me how about you hit the gym and observe yourself whether orange juice has a negative effect on your own body or not and if you can lift heavier and run longer while drinking orange juice or without it


Back in 1997 I ran cross country in high school. They called it "3 miles" but today they call it "5K". Actually the difference between 3 miles and 5K is big enough for 5K to take almost a minute more; so I wish I knew which one it actually was, but I don't know. In any case, whatever it was, my best time was 17 minutes and 7 seconds, but that was a one-off. Usually my time was between 18 and 19 minutes and there was 1 time when I did 20-something and 1 time 21-something. At the same time, the one time when I did 17 minutes and 7 seconds was the only time when it was totally flat. All other times we ran on the mountains. So I guess its possible that on flat surface I was, in fact, that fast. They should have had me run on flat surface more, but oh well.

In any case, fast forward it to today. As of today I can't do either 3 miles or 5K in 20 minutes -- not even if its flat. If I try really hard, I can get slightly less than 22 minutes for 5K and around 21 minutes for 3 miles. Well, back then I drank orange juice daily. Right now I only drink it in rare occasions. I am not saying orange juice helped me; its probably my age. But still, orange juice didn't seem to hurt me.



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14 Jan 2020, 6:32 am

5K is 3.1 miles, out about 3 miles, 175 yards.



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14 Jan 2020, 8:03 am

I was a kid in the 90s. I think it was a much simpler time too. But then, I could be biased just because I was a kid then.

I wish my life could be back to the way it was. I wish that everyday. I feel like I have nothing left.

I wish I'd never pursued my old school crush, that made everything 10x worse.



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14 Jan 2020, 8:58 am

The 90s were a pain in the butt. I was in my 30s then. Things are much easier for me now than then.

I had to pay bills via snail-mail then. It wasn’t an idyllic life for me.

The 2020s are better for people with executive functioning difficulties. If you lost an important document in the 90s, you probably were pretty screwed. You would have had to wait weeks to have that document mailed to you. Now, you could probably get a printed copy right away of that document for a small fee.

You had to actually go to stores to shop, most of the time.



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14 Jan 2020, 9:32 am

1990s... being a child in a developing country. It certainly had its fun. I was poor but everybody was poor back then.
Travelling like 8 persons in a 5-person car... nobody heard about baby seats here. Well, maybe some heard about them. But we didn't have a car anyway.
Everything was rapidly changing here in the 90s. The economy booming from almost nothing to... something.
I liked the dynamics of that time. Would I be happy about it if I were an adult back then? My parents were full of hopes. My parents-in-law were rather scared.
Now my country is officially "developed". I guess it's better that way.


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14 Jan 2020, 12:03 pm

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You had to actually go to stores to shop, most of the time.


I go to stores to shop now, too. I only tried to buy things over the internet twice -- both times the book through Amazon -- and the second time I did this, I never received that book. Buying things in the stores is far easier as far as I am concerned.



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14 Jan 2020, 12:08 pm

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The 90s were a pain in the butt. I was in my 30s then. Things are much easier for me now than then.


Yep, same here. I have a strong suspicions people our age will mostly feel this way :)


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14 Jan 2020, 12:44 pm

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The 90s were a pain in the butt. I was in my 30s then.


I would much rather be in my 30-s then in my 50-s. Being in my 50-s scares the hell out of me. In fact, the fact that I reached 40 is a disaster, which is one of the main reasons I look back to good old days.

But then again, being in my 30-s is bad too, which is the reason I miss 90s. But if I can't get to my teens or twenties, I would at least wish to be 30 again than to be stuck where I am 40.



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14 Jan 2020, 2:19 pm

I went through a huge 90s nostalgia phase in my early 20s, but when I came out of it I realized something important. I tended to recall the good points of the 90s and completely forgot things about the 90s that aren't as good as what we have now. In short, it really was a rose-coloured glasses thing. There are things about the 2010s (and now 2020s I guess) that I really like too, but I was for a time so focused on the best points of a decade that came and went a long time ago.

Note that I think revisiting the past is a good thing. I just don't think it's worth living there. At most maybe get a summer home there, so you can enjoy a nice vacation for your mind by basking in the good points of the past and none of the bad. You can do this by enjoying your favourite 90s media that you still have access to, for example. But, do remember that it's 2020 out there and like it or not, you still have to live in the current day.



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14 Jan 2020, 2:25 pm

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I went through a huge 90s nostalgia phase in my early 20s, but when I came out of it I realized something important. I tended to recall the good points of the 90s and completely forgot things about the 90s that aren't as good as what we have now. In short, it really was a rose-coloured glasses thing. There are things about the 2010s (and now 2020s I guess) that I really like too, but I was for a time so focused on the best points of a decade that came and went a long time ago.


I remember some bad things. Like I got two Ds in one semester in the 1999. It was the only time I had anything below a C, so it was quite a trauma. I still would rather be 19 and have those two Ds than to be 40 and have mostly As (which is where I am right now). Having bad grades at school is not nearly as bad as throwing away 20 years of my life having been going in the wrong direction research-wise.

Someone else mentioned how they had to use snail mail in the 90s to pay the bills. I guess in the 90s my mom paid all my bills, but I remember using snail mail in early 2000-s. I actually miss it!! ! Isn't it funny that -- despite the inconvenience of snail mail -- it is actually a good thing since it relates to the good old days?

The only time where the bad might have outweigh the good was *early* 90-s since back then I was bullied at school and treated like a little kid. Its actually the *late* 90-s that I miss. But even with early 90-s I would still prefer it to right now. Back then I could look forward for this to end few years later. RIght now I have nothing to look forward to, I will only get older not younger.



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14 Jan 2020, 2:32 pm

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I wish I'd never pursued my old school crush, that made everything 10x worse.


EDIT: Okay I confused your user name with someone else's. Now that I saw it, it makes more sense. Sorry to hear about the high school crush ruining your life. Are you currenly stuck with him as of now?

In my case my problems also started from a crush -- it happened in Spring 2001. I had a crush on a certain woman, who was engaged, whom I met on Clare Sainsbury's mailing list for people with Asperger. I guess by crush I mean like I over-idealized her in my head, I didn't have any sexual fantasies about her, no. I just over-idealized her personality. And also the knowledge that she was engaged didn't interfere with it at all, since I never thought about myself in that context. I was seeing myself as a kid, so what adults do (such as getting engaged) was an irrelevancy as far as I was concerned. And no, I didn't tell them I had a crush on her. I was simply giving her an advice on how to be better socially, which is kinda weird since she was 8 years older than me and was engaged while I was the one with zero social experience, but I didn't think of it this way, I kinda projected myself onto her which I often do with the women I like. Since I didn't usually give advice to anyone else, that was sort of an indication that I liked her, but I have no idea whether others were able to read it or not.

In any case, in parallel to that, I talked about blacks having smaller brains than whites in a different thread (and no it had nothing to do with her; she was white by the way, and she never responded to that other thread). So somenoe who attacked me for that other thead said "I can't believe you gave that woman an advice to think before she speaks, for which I don't see an evidence by the way, I think you should follow up your own advice". Since I actually liked that woman, and my *intentions* behind giving her an advice were well meaning (although others might have misread them since I tend to be blunt) it was a huge slap on the face. Shortly thereafter I was banned from that list -- not because of that woman, but because of talking about blacks. I was thinking she would come to my defense, yet I was banned too soon to find out if she did or not. I also was hoping she would email me or something. She never did. So I ended up obsessing about her for months on end.

Then finally I decided maybe I should make female friends and that would disract me from obsessing about her (I was thinking about female friends rather than girlfriends, the idea of having a girlfriend never even crossed my mind, I didn't think any woman would choose me -- although two years later one girl did, and that was when I started looking for a girlfriend). But then when I wanted to make female friends I realized I couldn't do that, nobody talked to me. So that was when things snowballed to where they are right now, where I am obsessing about women liking me. I got over that particular girl probably after two years -- when I had the first girlfriend who dated me for 8 months. But that didn't change the fact that I was obsessing about women for the next two decades. So yeah, I wish I never met that girl, then maybe my life would have turned out differently. Maybe I would have been a physics professor by now, who knows.



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