Antifa Terrorists to Infiltrate VA Civil Rights March?

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19 Jan 2020, 8:46 pm

There is a big civil rights march scheduled for the Virginia capitol grounds on Monday (MLK Day). Word is that as many as 400 Antifa thugs are planning to wear NRA hats and racist emblems and infiltrate the march, instigating violence and getting themselves filmed. The leftist propagandamedia will spread this around the world without questioning.

Meanwhile Virginia's good ol' boy Democrat governor, aka Kluxy McBlackface, has set up a chain-link cage around the entire planned demonstration area, with very few exits to allow people to escape. They are trying to concentrate and force violent encounters, just as they have in the past.

If you read about or see images of violence, ask yourself whether you're watching an orchestrated disinformation performance that's being coordinated by the subversive left and their media allies – because there's a good chance you'll be seeing lots of that. These are tried and true Bolshevik tactics from the 1920s. The Nazis learned them from the Bolsheviks, and Antifa are the Bolsheviks of today.


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20 Jan 2020, 1:00 am

Isn't that the same demonstration where Nazis were arrested to keep from crashing with firearms? That includes a dumbshit from Canada.


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20 Jan 2020, 1:02 am

Darmok wrote:
There is a big civil rights march scheduled for the Virginia capitol grounds on Monday (MLK Day). Word is that as many as 400 Antifa thugs are planning to wear NRA hats and racist emblems and infiltrate the march, instigating violence and getting themselves filmed. The leftist propagandamedia will spread this around the world without questioning.

Meanwhile Virginia's good ol' boy Democrat governor, aka Kluxy McBlackface, has set up a chain-link cage around the entire planned demonstration area, with very few exits to allow people to escape. They are trying to concentrate and force violent encounters, just as they have in the past.

If you read about or see images of violence, ask yourself whether you're watching an orchestrated disinformation performance that's being coordinated by the subversive left and their media allies – because there's a good chance you'll be seeing lots of that. These are tried and true Bolshevik tactics from the 1920s. The Nazis learned them from the Bolsheviks, and Antifa are the Bolsheviks of today.


Last I heard it was more of a neo nazi gathering than a civil rights protest.



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20 Jan 2020, 1:11 am

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20 Jan 2020, 1:11 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Darmok wrote:
There is a big civil rights march scheduled for the Virginia capitol grounds on Monday (MLK Day). Word is that as many as 400 Antifa thugs are planning to wear NRA hats and racist emblems and infiltrate the march, instigating violence and getting themselves filmed. The leftist propagandamedia will spread this around the world without questioning.

Meanwhile Virginia's good ol' boy Democrat governor, aka Kluxy McBlackface, has set up a chain-link cage around the entire planned demonstration area, with very few exits to allow people to escape. They are trying to concentrate and force violent encounters, just as they have in the past.

If you read about or see images of violence, ask yourself whether you're watching an orchestrated disinformation performance that's being coordinated by the subversive left and their media allies – because there's a good chance you'll be seeing lots of that. These are tried and true Bolshevik tactics from the 1920s. The Nazis learned them from the Bolsheviks, and Antifa are the Bolsheviks of today.


Last I heard it was more of a neo nazi gathering than a civil rights protest.


Does the OP have a response?


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20 Jan 2020, 1:16 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Isn't that the same demonstration where Nazis were arrested to keep from crashing with firearms? That includes a dumbshit from Canada.


Yeah I think I take back something I said before of how I thought Ezra could be thought provoking, but with trying to call this nazi gathering a civil rights movement and bitching about anti-fa with absolutely refusing to even consider white supremacists and the like are basically neo-nazis even if they don't all call themselves that...I have to kind of question my former view. Like nothing good about being a neo-nazi sympathizer I mean if neo-nazis had their way he would be one of the first people to be eradicated due to not even being able to use the bathroom on his own, yet he's defending their horrible gathering in Virgina where they practically threatened being willing to commit gun violence. I don't get it and I probably never will. Like those people are certainly not about disability rights or even dignity for disabled people so I never do get the disabled people who defend them.


I think you mean Darmok.


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20 Jan 2020, 1:20 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Isn't that the same demonstration where Nazis were arrested to keep from crashing with firearms? That includes a dumbshit from Canada.


Yeah I think I take back something I said before of how I thought Ezra could be thought provoking, but with trying to call this nazi gathering a civil rights movement and bitching about anti-fa with absolutely refusing to even consider white supremacists and the like are basically neo-nazis even if they don't all call themselves that...I have to kind of question my former view. Like nothing good about being a neo-nazi sympathizer I mean if neo-nazis had their way he would be one of the first people to be eradicated due to not even being able to use the bathroom on his own, yet he's defending their horrible gathering in Virgina where they practically threatened being willing to commit gun violence. I don't get it and I probably never will. Like those people are certainly not about disability rights or even dignity for disabled people so I never do get the disabled people who defend them.


I think you mean Darmok.


uhh of course didn't see who posted this, but no nevermind than about all that, doesn't even make sense...though that poster did kind of seem to be arguing it was just left wing propaganda and there was never any neo-nazi threat, but yeah I was mixed up on threads...so yeah, that is why I don't post here as much some people just say stuff that seems like nonsense and then I go responding only to find its in the wrong thread or I got the Op wrong so there is that.



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20 Jan 2020, 1:32 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
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Isn't that the same demonstration where Nazis were arrested to keep from crashing with firearms? That includes a dumbshit from Canada.


Yeah I think I take back something I said before of how I thought Ezra could be thought provoking, but with trying to call this nazi gathering a civil rights movement and bitching about anti-fa with absolutely refusing to even consider white supremacists and the like are basically neo-nazis even if they don't all call themselves that...I have to kind of question my former view. Like nothing good about being a neo-nazi sympathizer I mean if neo-nazis had their way he would be one of the first people to be eradicated due to not even being able to use the bathroom on his own, yet he's defending their horrible gathering in Virgina where they practically threatened being willing to commit gun violence. I don't get it and I probably never will. Like those people are certainly not about disability rights or even dignity for disabled people so I never do get the disabled people who defend them.


I think you mean Darmok.


uhh of course didn't see who posted this, but no nevermind than about all that, doesn't even make sense...though that poster did kind of seem to be arguing it was just left wing propaganda and there was never any neo-nazi threat, but yeah I was mixed up on threads...so yeah, that is why I don't post here as much some people just say stuff that seems like nonsense and then I go responding only to find its in the wrong thread or I got the Op wrong so there is that.


S'okay.


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20 Jan 2020, 2:13 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Isn't that the same demonstration where Nazis were arrested to keep from crashing with firearms? That includes a dumbshit from Canada.


Yeah I think I take back something I said before of how I thought Ezra could be thought provoking, but with trying to call this nazi gathering a civil rights movement and bitching about anti-fa with absolutely refusing to even consider white supremacists and the like are basically neo-nazis even if they don't all call themselves that...I have to kind of question my former view. Like nothing good about being a neo-nazi sympathizer I mean if neo-nazis had their way he would be one of the first people to be eradicated due to not even being able to use the bathroom on his own, yet he's defending their horrible gathering in Virgina where they practically threatened being willing to commit gun violence. I don't get it and I probably never will. Like those people are certainly not about disability rights or even dignity for disabled people so I never do get the disabled people who defend them.


I think you mean Darmok.


uhh of course didn't see who posted this, but no nevermind than about all that, doesn't even make sense...though that poster did kind of seem to be arguing it was just left wing propaganda and there was never any neo-nazi threat, but yeah I was mixed up on threads...so yeah, that is why I don't post here as much some people just say stuff that seems like nonsense and then I go responding only to find its in the wrong thread or I got the Op wrong so there is that.


S'okay.


Still embarrassing though, but of course this forum is fairly anonymous...its not facebook or even worse, twitter, like no one here likely knows who I am IRL.



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20 Jan 2020, 2:17 am

I believe what I said is that it seems to me that the left puts as much hype into it as possible while connecting nazis to republicans/ conservatives. Basically insinuating that most of the right should be viewed as a terrorist threat.



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20 Jan 2020, 2:27 am

EzraS wrote:
I believe what I said is that it seems to me that the left puts as much hype into it as possible while connecting nazis to republicans/ conservatives. Basically insinuating that most of the right should be viewed as a terrorist threat.


Yes I admit I was wrong about a lot of that, so I'm sorry I made that dumb post. I suppose I can see some more left leaning media doing that, I mean that is why I even agreed in whatever other thread that Salon.com is baised, even though I am a left-winger I still recognize they do have a rather strong bias so it's certainly not a source I really rely on. That said I don't think this threat in virgina or reporting on it is meant to impy everyone on the right is evil terrorists. Seems actual people willing to commit terrorism in the name of their cause, largely white supremacists where planning potential violence and the authorities had to step in. That seems to point to a problem with neo nazis and white supremacists existing. I find that disturbing...it doesn't make me think every right winger is participating or agrees with the white supremacists but it is kind of disturbing such people are organizing. I just don't think that having happened is simply left wing propaganda trying to make all right wingers look bad. I doubt they just made up that threats were made and so authorities stepped in.



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20 Jan 2020, 2:28 am

EzraS wrote:
I believe what I said is that it seems to me that the left puts as much hype into it as possible while connecting nazis to republicans/ conservatives. Basically insinuating that most of the right should be viewed as a terrorist threat.


But nobody's said that on this forum.


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20 Jan 2020, 4:54 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I believe what I said is that it seems to me that the left puts as much hype into it as possible while connecting nazis to republicans/ conservatives. Basically insinuating that most of the right should be viewed as a terrorist threat.


But nobody's said that on this forum.


I believe it has been insinuated. And also it all goes well beyond what is said in this forum. Usually when I make comment like that I mean throughout the country or throughout the world.



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20 Jan 2020, 7:08 am

EzraS wrote:
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I believe what I said is that it seems to me that the left puts as much hype into it as possible while connecting nazis to republicans/ conservatives. Basically insinuating that most of the right should be viewed as a terrorist threat.


But nobody's said that on this forum.


I believe it has been insinuated. And also it all goes well beyond what is said in this forum. Usually when I make comment like that I mean throughout the country or throughout the world.


But that hardly means all liberals think that way.
And insinuated? We're Aspies here. We're hardly the kind able to disguise our true feelings and intentions.


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20 Jan 2020, 9:01 am

Wonder who Antifa will beat up if everyone celebrates the great contributions of MLK, Jr.? Just random white ppl? Above a certain age to ensure maximum impact on 'boomers?'


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20 Jan 2020, 10:45 am

Why This Antifa Group Is Siding With Thousands of Pro-Gun Conservatives In Virginia

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When gun lovers rally in front of the Virginia Capitol in Richmond next week, the local chapter of antifa will be there too. But their members won’t be wearing all black, and they don’t plan to douse right-wingers in milkshakes or Silly String.

Instead, local antifa will join thousands of conservatives who are expected to descend on Richmond that day in protesting pending gun-control legislation introduced by Democratic lawmakers.

Antifa Seven Hills, based in Richmond, are opposing the slew of gun bills introduced by the newly Democratic Legislature since November, because they say those types of laws are used primarily to criminalize poor people, minorities, and leftists — and to bolster law enforcement’s power.

“I think it’s been pretty important for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement,” said Antifa Seven Hills spokesperson James (who asked that his name be withheld to avoid getting doxxed online). “Like taking guns away from black people, because black people were perceived as a threat to property and the sanctity of the state.”

The local antifa chapter’s engagement in this issue is another example of the resurgence of pro-gun leftists in America and yet more evidence that the gun-rights debate is growing increasingly politically diffuse and nuanced beyond simply being a GOP issue. Under the Trump administration and in response to the emergence of an emboldened far-right movement, leftist gun groups have surged. For example, the Socialist Rifle Association was formed in 2018 and today has over 50 chapters across the country. Similarly, Redneck Revolt, a leftist gun group that formed in 2016, claims at least 45 chapters nationwide.

“This is our fight as much as anyone else’s,” James, who identifies as an anarchist, added. “It’s our state, and we are left largely out of the debate. The presence of an armed left is not discussed, it’s not understood.”

Antifa and conservative gun-rights activists would seem to be unlikely bedfellows; anyone who’s tuned into cable news in the last few years has watched scenes of political violence unfold between the hard-left and right-wingers in places like Portland, New York City, Boston, and Berkley. But in the case of Antifa Seven Hills, they believe they’ve got more in common with working-class white Virginians, regardless of their political bent, than they do with many of the moderate Democrats who helped their party win control of the Legislature in November, for the first time since 1994.

The shared skepticism of political moderates and authority is why Antifa Seven Hills sees the January 20 rally as an opportunity to extend an olive branch to other gun owners — at least those who don’t align with the far-right militias or white supremacists who are also expected to show up to the event.

It’s also a reminder that “antifa” is not a monolithic movement. James said that antifa chapters tend to vary regionally in their goals, activities, and organizational structures. For example, antifascists in some parts of the U.S. have embraced “black bloc” protest tactics, which were imported from Europe and entail activists wearing all black and concealing their faces.

While that tactic is often associated with antifa in places like Portland, where antifascists sometimes show up in the hundreds to counter far-right groups, James says it’s not as well suited to the South. “I think what’s particular about the South is that we have to be a bit more creative and sensitive to the people around us — instead of fulfilling some sort of meme of what antifa is,” said James. “That’s really what we’re trying to work against right now, especially by talking to conservatives and showing we aren’t just a black-clad group of rabble-rousers who are out for attention and have jobs funded by George Soros.”

James hopes to regain control of antifascism’s image by showing ordinary Virginians that they share similar values — and thinks that Monday's rally is a good opportunity to build those bridges.

If authorities’ fears are confirmed and white supremacist groups join the fray, Antifa Seven Hills could be left in an awkward position. Asked whether there was a plan to switch from conservative outreach into a more combative role, James declined to comment. “We’re not going to discuss our plans at this point,” he said.


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