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07 Feb 2020, 3:13 pm

This happens all over the internet. In real life I get listened to but not really. They don't get past my physical appearance which is younger than I am chronologically, younger than I feel and younger than my intellect is.

But online it should be a level playing field.

However:
On here - I get ignored if I make a new topic.
On politics/art/sjw twitter - I get ignored if I make a new tweet.
On football twitter - I get ignored if I make a new tweet
On discord - I get ignored.

On the first three, if I respond to someone else then someone might bother to listen.

On twitter I try to be very precise and keep things appropriate for my audience. I still get ignored. On here, this place is basically for talking about your own experiences and specialist interests so I might be a bit more selfish tbh.

Why is it that everyone ignores me? What is so ignorable about me that groups of different people don't want to listen? Do most people get ignored online? It's really bad for my social anxiety to constantly be reminded that nobody cares about my thoughts unless they're replies to more important people.


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07 Feb 2020, 4:08 pm

Lol well this is predictable...


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07 Feb 2020, 4:08 pm

It's amazing how connected we can be yet feel so alone. Take care KT67, you're not alone.


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07 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm

I feel like that too, KT67. Online and offline... No matter where I go, it’s always the same.
At least it’s better than any alternative. I’d rather be ignored than insulted like before. ╮( ˘ 、 ˘; )╭



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07 Feb 2020, 6:25 pm

I would never ignore you, KT.

You are actually well-regarded here.



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07 Feb 2020, 9:10 pm

KT67 wrote:
On here - I get ignored if I make a new topic.

Could you please post a list of links to your 5 or 6 most recent new topics here on WP, so we can see if there's any common pattern that might have resulted in your posts getting ignored?

KT67 wrote:
On politics/art/sjw twitter - I get ignored if I make a new tweet.

Maybe your political tweets aren't controversial enough to get attention? (Just a wild guess, I haven't seen any of your tweets.)

KT67 wrote:
On football twitter - I get ignored if I make a new tweet
On discord - I get ignored.

Could you post links to some non-political examples? (I would suggest avoiding political examples to avoid violating WP's rule against political discussion outside of PPR.)

KT67 wrote:
On the first three, if I respond to someone else then someone might bother to listen.

On twitter I try to be very precise and keep things appropriate for my audience. I still get ignored. On here, this place is basically for talking about your own experiences and specialist interests so I might be a bit more selfish tbh.

Why is it that everyone ignores me? What is so ignorable about me that groups of different people don't want to listen? Do most people get ignored online? It's really bad for my social anxiety to constantly be reminded that nobody cares about my thoughts unless they're replies to more important people.

Occasionally my new threads get ignored, but not very often. Apparently I've gotten rather good at the art of writing attention-getting posts without being obnoxious (or, at least, not obnoxious enough to get any warnings about it so far), so I might be able to give you some worthwhile advice. But I'll need to see a collection of examples of your conversation-starting attempts first.


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07 Feb 2020, 9:13 pm

KT67 wrote:
Lol well this is predictable...

This was posted less than an hour after your first post. I would wait at least a day before concluding I was being ignored.


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07 Feb 2020, 9:23 pm

KT67 wrote:
Lol well this is predictable...


Just so you know I gave you a hug in the hugs thread when I first read your post, just so you know you weren't being ignored. :)


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10 Feb 2020, 11:42 am

Ah ok.
I don't feel very good about sharing info between sites, I like to keep my online lives separate and my online and offline lives separate and my offline lives in different places separate.
I think the leaving it a day thing works. Still get ignored a fair bit though. But I read somewhere that 20% of messages on twitter are actually replied to.
My main thing is that I've been on twitter talking about politics for about 6 months and I have 53 followers. Some accounts have hundreds. So only a few people (mostly my irl friends) see what I post automatically.


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10 Feb 2020, 5:41 pm

KT67 wrote:
Ah ok.
I don't feel very good about sharing info between sites, I like to keep my online lives separate and my online and offline lives separate and my offline lives in different places separate.

A reasonable precaution to protect your privacy, yes.

However, if you still feel that you are being ignored here on Wrong Planet too, could you provide links to some new threads you've started here on Wrong Planet that didn't get any replies?

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I think the leaving it a day thing works. Still get ignored a fair bit though. But I read somewhere that 20% of messages on twitter are actually replied to.
My main thing is that I've been on twitter talking about politics for about 6 months and I have 53 followers. Some accounts have hundreds. So only a few people (mostly my irl friends) see what I post automatically.

I would hazard a guess that what you describe above may be true for most people who have been on Twitter for only 6 months. People who are able to grow their Twitter followership faster would be people who have a lot more IRL acquaintances and/or who already have a long-established presence on other social media and don't mind cross-referencing them.


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10 Feb 2020, 7:24 pm

The OP describes my online experience perfectly, except I have about half the followers. My partner says people like me, but it doesn't feel that way, either IRL or online. My therapist says that people experience a lack of response as a negative response, a blank expression as a negative expression. I'm not so sure that's true of people in general, but it explains some of how people react to me, as I'm not so good at facial expression.
When I'm feeling charitable, I explain the lack of social media response as the result of my inconsistent attempts in a loud, crowded room. I'm probably not as interesting as I think I am. But mostly I just feel as if I've been blocked, so I felt like I really wanted to acknowledge your post.


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12 Feb 2020, 3:29 am

This happens to me as well but mostly offline. I understand and sympathise with you. It's horrible to go through and makes me feel really low because I feel there's something about me which makes people avoid and ignore me. I hope things get better for you soon.



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13 Feb 2020, 9:37 am

I find I tend to be ignored far more than average everywhere I post even though I try to post relevant, factual information and keep my emotional side in check. I still have no idea why. One thing I find interesting is since I become a father to an adorable baby with model-like looks (I'm not jealous I swear!) my Facebook posts are liked on average about four times as much.

I used to be heavily involved in the BBS for my favorite NHL team in the early days of the internet. I was very well respected and I knew my stuff inside out and my knowledge was nothing short of excellent: in short I might have been one of the top 3 posters and could be mistaken for an insider I was so well versed. Even reading it years later I was amazed at how articulate and professional I wrote. One day we had a "how old are you and where do you live" discussion to which I admitted being 14 years old. Suddenly, if I wasn't being ignored I was constantly being undermined and told how wrong I was: it was so bizarre then and I can only scratch my head even today. It was almost like they were afraid of being seen as pedophiles for talking to a teenager even though we never once talked about anything other than hockey, all email discussions were posted publically (i.e. no Private messaging) with strict rules against personal attacks and I never pretended to be an expert on anything other than hockey analytics.

I don't deliberately ignore threads on WP unless they are either attention seeking (i.e. if I see the word BUMP) or if the poster has proven repeatedly to have their head in the sand and refuses to listen or learn.



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13 Feb 2020, 5:57 pm

Yeah so I was just driving around, when the sun came blazing through the clouds!
Sure was beautiful!
I'll finish off the last of these delicious lemon drop cakey things before I move on... if no one wants any?
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ummmm... anyone else here?
:-P
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Okay.. I'm not seriously ignoring you! ;)
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How about you take a look around at random threads here and all the comments.
Observe how a few people wind up in a back-and-forth conversation, while a few or several commentors wind up not being acknowledged.
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My point is that you may be over-hyping the situation. But then again... maybe not?
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I don't get many acknowledgements to my comments or the threads I start, overall.
I was laughingly feeling like I was a 'Thread Killer' for a while, here and elsewhere.
I now just realize I'm one voice among the many, and on a few occasions, I'll be quoted or someone will direct a comment toward me.
I also don't rate my value online, based upon my supposed popularity.
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For you... maybe it's just the wording of your posts/threads?
Have someone read over them to see if they find anything you might change to stand out more.
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I mostly get ignored in public... real-life.
Maybe it's my voice?
Maybe it's the tenor of my comments?
Maybe I'm a bit too excited, too animated, and that's a turn-off?
In general social situations... I tend to not join in too many conversations, just to avoid talking to the air.. or feeling like I am.
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If you post about specific ideas, or topics, maybe research what has already been posted about them and see if you are just reviving a topic that's been posted about Ad nauseam?
See how other people have posted about those topics...maybe take in the manner in which they write about them, and compare their writing to yours?
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Best wishes! :D


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13 Feb 2020, 6:37 pm

From what I see, we (aspies) often do get ignored, more than the average.

The stuff I personally post online whether on forums or social media, I post for my own sake, not for likes, shares or comments, but if those things mattered to me I would have stopped years ago. I can probably count on one hand the number of my social media posts that were liked by others. I just put up stuff that interest me, never personal stuff, and I sometimes forget that it's not my own personal playground, so whenever it does happens, it startles me. Like "oh yeah, people can actually see this" :lol:

KT67 wrote:
I don't feel very good about sharing info between sites, I like to keep my online lives separate and my online and offline lives separate and my offline lives in different places separate.

That is very sensible. I do that too.


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