Man shares what it’s like to die and come back (+2min video)

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11 Feb 2020, 11:40 pm

Article & video have some different info in them so read & listen.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6511832/near ... come-back/

This is pretty awesome! Also, his descriptions are Very Similar to some of the experience of psychedelic drugs in terms of visuals, dissolving the ego/detachment from the physical body, a feeling of oneness with the universe, no longer fearing death, a beautiful experience etc. Very Similar. Pretty fkn rad that we can access the experience of death and the wisdom it brings w/o having to actually die, IMO. 8)


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12 Feb 2020, 12:13 am

My grandmother died during childbirth because of gangrene poisoning, was declared dead, and resuscitated. She was able to see or report things that her extended family members were doing or thinking in other cities during that time and she knew things that were happening in hospital but in different rooms. She also reported a peaceful omniscient serenity.

My father was in a coma and reported out of body experiences going back to his childhood home, with information that was later verified as true.

Thanks for sharing that. I believe there is much more to human energy than we understand.


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12 Feb 2020, 1:24 am

goldfish21 wrote:
This is pretty awesome! Also, his descriptions are Very Similar to some of the experience of psychedelic drugs in terms of visuals,


The neurological evidence suggest this is likely the result of an endorphin rush on the cusp of death
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... -28726479/

What's interesting is the brain remains active after the body had died, seems strange to have evolved this given it offers no Darwinian evolutionary advantage?



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12 Feb 2020, 2:58 am

I had a nde when I was 9.



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12 Feb 2020, 9:40 am

cyberdad wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
This is pretty awesome! Also, his descriptions are Very Similar to some of the experience of psychedelic drugs in terms of visuals,


The neurological evidence suggest this is likely the result of an endorphin rush on the cusp of death
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... -28726479/

What's interesting is the brain remains active after the body had died, seems strange to have evolved this given it offers no Darwinian evolutionary advantage?


And also a release of all of the brain’s reserve of DMT.

As for evolutionary advantage - perhaps this is indicative that death of the body is not the final stage of living being.. we do in fact transcend into a different state afterwards, and our brain remains active after physical death to ensure we realize this is what is happening.


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12 Feb 2020, 9:41 am

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I had a nde when I was 9.


Circumstances?

Description?

8)


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12 Feb 2020, 6:07 pm

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13 Feb 2020, 12:48 am

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[ we do in fact transcend into a different state afterwards, and our brain remains active after physical death to ensure we realize this is what is happening.


You mean final code in the DNA that's activated on death to release all the DMT in the brain to allow the transition of conciseness to another state?



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13 Feb 2020, 8:32 am

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[ we do in fact transcend into a different state afterwards, and our brain remains active after physical death to ensure we realize this is what is happening.


You mean final code in the DNA that's activated on death to release all the DMT in the brain to allow the transition of conciseness to another state?


Something like that, yeah. 8)

But maybe something else, who knows?

Maybe it happens to trick our fearful brains into being at peace as a defence mechanism to guard against the traumatic experience of just ceasing to exist? Maybe it’s something like that?

But I suppose if we did just cease to exist that we wouldn’t know it to be fearful of it.. and if I were a betting man I’d put money on the transition of consciousness theory over this one. But it could also be for some other reason I haven’t thought of.


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13 Feb 2020, 11:29 am

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I had a nde when I was 9.


Circumstances?

Description?

8)


Okay. First off as a child I would as I recall have an out of body experience somewhat frequently. I would lift out of my body, lets say 6 feet above it and then move to my right to the other side of the room and hover over my cousin's bed. And then go back to my left over myself and go back down. I remember I would grip my bedding in anticipation of this happening.

So I am in a hospital room because of my respiratory problem and I lifted up like I had before. From my perspective as I recall it I was laying flat horizontal with my eyes facing towards the ceiling. However I was also looking down at myself laying there and and the doctors and their equipment watching them using a crash cart trying to resuscitate me. It was like a 360 view of everything going on. Then I moved further up and that scene dissipated and I was floating in what was like a white illuminated cloud gliding forward feet first. As I continued to glide I started becoming more vertical.

It was kind of like I was gliding down a tunnel but all I could see was an illuminated opaque whiteness and I was picking up speed. I was approaching something in the distance with a lot of lights. Then I felt hands grabbing me by the shoulders and pulling me back. And I remember thinking "no" because I wanted to keep going.

Then very quickly I went back down into myself, like I had experienced those other times. I remember being on the bed or gurney and seeing the medical staff above me saying stuff that I could not make out. Then I fell asleep and woke up in a regular hospital room the next day. I had been asleep or in a coma for 18 hours after they got me stabilized.

There are more details to my journey that I cannot quite remember.

The lyrics to the Pink Floyd song Comfortably Numb that go:

"When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown
The dream is gone"


Really gets to me whenever I hear it.



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13 Feb 2020, 5:41 pm

That’s awesome. 8)

I’ve never quite had those experiences. I have experienced disassociation before, but that’s a bit of a different thing.

The closest it gets for anything quite like that, or especially the guy’s story from the article, are psychedelic drug trips. Which are awesome and I could go into great detail about.


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13 Feb 2020, 9:11 pm

People are dying to see such a show.

I was only dead for 2 minutes so I did not get to the good parts others have seen I guess.

Even though I experienced one, I have not looked into near death experiences much.

The one thing I know about it is others saying the feeling of total peace and euphoria, which I experienced. But as a small child I did not have much of the weight of the world to escape from. I will say it felt like I was going back to where I belonged. Like I was being released from this world to go back home, to my point of origin.

What keeps it from it being written off as a total hallucination are the details in the hospital room I saw.

Also my initial description was not entirely accurate. There were faint colors of a sort in the cloud-like whiteness. Like mother of pearl is the best way I can describe it.



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14 Feb 2020, 1:03 am

The rest of your description sounds pretty cool. Especially the bit about going home. 8)

But this stood out:

EzraS wrote:
Also my initial description was not entirely accurate. There were faint colors of a sort in the cloud-like whiteness. Like mother of pearl is the best way I can describe it.


Kinda like the guy in the article describes colours as looking like “gasoline on water” ? He did some art work to depict it - which can be seen in the 2 min vid. Did it look anything like that?

These are also colours/“visual reality perception filters” one can view the world via substances like psilocybin, lsd, mdma to an extent etc. It’s the closest thing I have as a frame of reference to compare it to.


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14 Feb 2020, 1:20 am

goldfish21 wrote:
The rest of your description sounds pretty cool. Especially the bit about going home. 8)

But this stood out:

EzraS wrote:
Also my initial description was not entirely accurate. There were faint colors of a sort in the cloud-like whiteness. Like mother of pearl is the best way I can describe it.


Kinda like the guy in the article describes colours as looking like “gasoline on water” ? He did some art work to depict it - which can be seen in the 2 min vid. Did it look anything like that?

These are also colours/“visual reality perception filters” one can view the world via substances like psilocybin, lsd, mdma to an extent etc. It’s the closest thing I have as a frame of reference to compare it to.


No not like his artwork. I have a wristwatch with a mother of pearl dial. Initially it looks like it is just a white dial, when I move it around there are tinges of pink and green in it that shift around as I move it around. When I got it as a gift it reminded me of what I saw during the NDE. But his experience lasted longer so who knows what more I might have seen if mine had been as long.



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14 Feb 2020, 1:26 am

Your experience of seeing around the hospital is very similar to my grandmother. She could see other rooms and details in hospital, as well as her family members in other cities.

I know another person who died, and he said that he knew "everything" in the universe. Everything made sense. All physics, all history, all everything. He also knew that there were other steps or stages but he was pulled back.

Who knows what it means, or why it happens. I'm glad you came back to us though, Ez.


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14 Feb 2020, 1:39 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Maybe it happens to trick our fearful brains into being at peace as a defence mechanism to guard against the traumatic experience of just ceasing to exist? Maybe it’s something like that?

But I suppose if we did just cease to exist that we wouldn’t know it to be fearful of it.. and if I were a betting man I’d put money on the transition of consciousness theory over this one. But it could also be for some other reason I haven’t thought of.


Yes it gets back to no evolutionary advantage. Whether our last death throes are peaceful and like an LSD trip or painful is not going to matter. However a peaceful death might have less impact on the children so those with loved ones who had a peaceful death might have an advantage over people who's parents suffered a painful death and developed PTSD which means their kids suffer too.