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vermontsavant
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10 Mar 2020, 3:59 pm

Could tonight's mid western primaries be the end for Bernie Sanders,most of the states are small but Michigan is big and so is Missouri.

Biden holds double digit leads in some polls but not all polls.Can Bernie get a win in liberal Washington state?

We will have to see.


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10 Mar 2020, 4:55 pm

Mere speculation.

Besides, which of the 3 wealthy white male draft-dodgers in their 70s would you rather have as president?


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10 Mar 2020, 7:09 pm

^^^

False; When Sander's Number Came up for the Draft, He was too Old to be drafted.

Yes; Sanders Objected to the War as Many Folks did; but never the Less, He did not dodge the Draft.

No; Biden Did Not Dodge the Draft as Student Deferments and Asthma were His "Legal Ticket" Out.

Other than that there is more than one way to Serve One's Country, Other than the Military; both Men
Have Spent their Life doing this in Public Service; And as Far as Trump's Bone Spur excuse; at least
he gave it a shot serving his Country; but so far, he has failed Miserably; the Laughing Stock of the World.

It appears that Americans, by Overall, Majority, are Looking for someone with Actual Job Experience at
this Point to defeat 'the failure'.

(By Polls)

The Majority at least are more interested in someone actually getting the Job Done, Effectively;
beyond 'the failure'.

(By Polls)

In my Opinion, The Country is Not Ready for Sanders; Just too many Scared folks afraid of Change in General;
At Least Change that leads to Chaos.

It's Human Nature to go with whatever they feel is safe; when they are scared;
it's Human Nature to Become More Conservative when they are afraid.

Voila; the Election Results now.

And Yep; the Election Results Show that Sanders Underperformed;
And Biden is getting Closer to the Nomination; Yes, tonight very well may spell the end soon for Sanders.

Now, All Biden Needs is a VP Choice to energize the Younger Voters a bit, in Terms of Equality Concerns too;
Pete Buttigieg, helped Paved Biden's Way to His Current "Jomentum"; chances are He will "Jomore" with a Pete VP pick.

It's looking more dismal, overall, for Trump at this Point than ever; and sure, We Get Grumpy Old Men as a Two
Part Play; Mayor Pete, if chosen as Biden's Running Mate will take some of that Old Stale Grumpy Feeling away per
"Get off my Grass"; personally, i let my Dandelion's Grow Yellow Tall and Flower with the Back Yard Purple Flower
Weeds too; if a Neighborhood Dog Fertilizes it, so be it; it's all Good in the 'Naturehood' to me for Wild and Free..;)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/berni ... ged-draft/


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10 Mar 2020, 8:50 pm

Fnord wrote:
Mere speculation.

Besides, which of the 3 wealthy white male draft-dodgers in their 70s would you rather have as president?


i saw joe walsh's name on the primaries ..hope it is the famous musician ,
running on the republican ticket.


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10 Mar 2020, 11:27 pm

Biden had Michigan, Missouri and Mississippi,the Western States up for grabs.

The Michigan win may be Bernie's coffin nail.


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11 Mar 2020, 2:10 am

Bernie was done the moment Democratic support consolidated to a single candidate. He has a passionate fanbase, but a ceiling of ~35-40% of the Democratic electorate which will lose to another more mainstream candidate every time. His best hope was for a continued fractured field where his fanbase could carry him to win after win allowing him to woo voters once he gained an aura of inevitability. Instead the party consolidated around Biden and Bernie got crushed.

He's in the same situation as 2016, getting killed in every state in the south of the country and facing competitive primaries elsewhere. Worse for him is his rival this time (Joe Biden) has stronger midwest support than his previous opponent (Hillary Clinton). He didn't come close to winning in 2016(Hillary had 4 million more votes), but because he overachieved people remember that race as more competitive than it actually was. It looks like he will lose even worse this time when the dust settles.

I don't know if Biden can or will beat Donald Trump. I do know that had Bernie won the nomination he very likely would have lost.


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11 Mar 2020, 2:46 am

Antrax wrote:
I don't know if Biden can or will beat Donald Trump.


doubt it...at the risk of sounding like a broken record - all my disagreements with him aside trump is quick on his feet and knows to hit his opponent where it hurts. biden on the other hand is having trouble forming coherent sentences (without being propped up by stimulants) and it will only be worse by november. however hard the media is trying to hide that now, i doubt it will matter then.

when will democrats learn? are they really only there so republicans can have someone to win against?


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11 Mar 2020, 3:08 am

^ looks from here rather like fighting back against the orange goblin is akin to nailing jelly to mist... I sincerely hope I’m not sending commiserations across the ocean come December though.



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11 Mar 2020, 3:38 am



For Sanders that is but don't crown Joe just yet. A big trap with meltdown potential for Biden is Sunday nights debate. In every debate so far Biden has sounded more "senile" as the night wore on. In every debate so far Biden has had time to rest in between talking because there were multiple candidates. He won't have that luxury this time it is just him against a desperate Bernie.

Maybe in 12 or 20 years but in 2020 the Democrat primary voters don't want "revolution". A Biden meltdown might still very well lead to a brokered convention but one that won't nominate Sanders.


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11 Mar 2020, 3:41 am

I would be all for Biden because with him having been vp for 8 years it at least seems like you know what to expect.

The problem of course is it definitely does seem like he is getting senile.



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11 Mar 2020, 3:51 am

^ If it comes to pass he’ll need a good VP running mate then.



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11 Mar 2020, 6:40 am

From the current delegate count it's not looking good for Bernie,I think he is almost 140 down at this point and polls show Sanders is not doing well with Black voters.


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11 Mar 2020, 6:53 am

Currently

Biden - 823

Sanders - 663



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11 Mar 2020, 1:11 pm

Sanders vows to stay in the race for as long as possible.

I must say it's not looking good though.


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11 Mar 2020, 1:19 pm

EzraS wrote:
Currently

Biden - 823

Sanders - 663
That translates into:

Biden - 55.4%

Sanders - 44.6%


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