Will or how will the riots effect the election?

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30 May 2020, 6:29 pm

Theory 1
The backlash against the 60s counterculture led us to Nixon's election, landslide reelection, and after a Watergate break Reagan, and arguably Trump. The progressives get big crowds for the gun control, climate change marches and this. Whoopee do, the anti Vietnam War protests got huge crowds and there were a lot of riots also, how did that go? People will again get the impression the progressives are crazy and too radical, history will repeat itself.

Theory 2
This is 2020 not 1970. The country is more diverse, police brutality is instantly on social media. Trump's election was an anomaly, the 2018 midterm the blue wave is more indicative of the long term generational change. Floyd's murder is the tipping point that will finally get young people and minorities out to vote as much if not more than the older people. Biden wins handily, Democrats get control of the Senate and ok boomer thinking goes to the dustbin of history.

Theory 3
Trump's outrageous twitterstorms, the resistance, Russia gate, impeachment, Pandemic, the worst economy since the great depression and Trump's approval remains steady, so what's a bunch of riots going to change? It's going to come down to the same 50,000 votes or so in the same swing states.


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30 May 2020, 7:18 pm

I think it will be a Biden landslide, assuming no foreign influence or voter suppression.

Trump is being partially blamed for this.


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30 May 2020, 7:34 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
... assuming no foreign influence or voter suppression...
Aye, there's the rub!  If Trump had his way, there would be not mail-in votes.  There would also be a lot of MAGA-hat wearing bullies, thugs, an militia members hanging around the polling places to intimidate anyone who did not look 'American' enough.


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30 May 2020, 8:12 pm

I believe what happens in the “swing states” will decide the election.

Trump losing Florida would be a disaster for him.



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30 May 2020, 8:21 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe what happens in the “swing states” will decide the election.

Trump losing Florida would be a disaster for him.


Isn’t Trump a FL resident now?


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30 May 2020, 8:25 pm

He’s the President. He officially lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I believe.

He BARELY won Florida in 2016.

If he gets Hispanics pissed off, he is TOAST in Florida.



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30 May 2020, 8:34 pm

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) wrote:
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the White House, is the place I have come to love and will stay for, hopefully, another 5 years as we MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, but my family and I will be making Palm Beach, Florida, our Permanent Residence. I cherish New York, and the people of.....
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) wrote:
....New York, and always will, but unfortunately, despite the fact that I pay millions of dollars in city, state and local taxes each year, I have been treated very badly by the political leaders of both the city and state. Few have been treated worse. I hated having to make....
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) wrote:
....this decision, but in the end it will be best for all concerned. As President, I will always be there to help New York and the great people of New York. It will always have a special place in my heart!
-- 6:32 PM · Oct 31, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

Belief is irrelevant in light of the facts.  Donald Trump's official Permanent Residence is in Mar-A-Lago, Florida.  He just (allegedly) works at the White House.


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30 May 2020, 8:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
He’s the President. He officially lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I believe.

He BARELY won Florida in 2016.

If he gets Hispanics pissed off, he is TOAST in Florida.


They still remember his campaign rhetoric (the "rapists" remark) and the detention center crisis. Plus the El Paso shooter targeted them specifically, and some of the "shithole countries" Trump mentioned were in Central America.


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31 May 2020, 4:26 am

i sure am glad my state is mail-in voting only, otherwise i'd punch one of those red-hat-wearing fascist election interferers in his stoooopid nose if he tried anything with me, and end up going to my grave or at least jail.



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31 May 2020, 7:37 am



THere is more than one way to Burn
'A Country' Down As Trump Has been
Throwing Flames Every Which Way
Except His
Way
HAha
it's Not
Really Funny
But Just Goes to
Show Where 'Fired' Goes...
Live By the Wave or the Flame...
Looking at This From A Much Larger
View All These Riots are Nature Spanking
Some of Us Even More For Being So Far Out of Balance
With The ViRuS oF CuLTuRaL Clothes We continue to Layer..
It's Worth
Noting
That
Small
Towns are almost
As Peaceful As 'Older Villages' Still with All Kinds
of Folks Living Next to Each Other Harmoniously
Sweet... Perhaps It's Politically Incorrect to Tell the
Truth But Science Shows Humans are Just not Evolved
to Live in Insanely Large Sardine Cans Rotting Fish sooner
Now than soon...
We aRe
Nature
THeRe is
No Escaping
The Karmic Wave Up or Down
In or Out Whatever Shores Come Will come..
Wow.. We have A Neo-Cortex.. Nature Overall
is Still More Powerful DarK Thru LiGHT.. Whether
or Not 'Donnie' Stays or Goes is Dependent on 'The Wave'...
From Biggest
View no Real
Evil
or Good
Just Moving
Toward or Away from Peace (Balance)
'Sometimes You Eat The Bar And Sometimes the Bar Eats You'
Nature Is The Snake And We Are The 'Tale' Trying To Consume
The Head..
It
Doesn't
Work The
Snake (God/Nature) Won't Take it...
This Human Tale (CuLTuRaL Clothes)
Is Already Consumed With Indigestion...
Hmm... Nothing Stopping 'the Snake'
From Throwing Us 'Up' Back to Star Dust at Least 'in Big City Life'...
Just Relaxing With my Feet Propped Up Such a Beautiful Last Day of
May Flowers
what a
tiny
Little
'Hick Town' Free..
True Small Town Privilege...
Meh.. 'Minions' are easy to ignore....
Reap What We Sow.. Flowers or Rotting
Sardine Cans...
i Made
A 'Right'
Choice
'Left'
Staying
too Big to
See in Small
'Trump Town' US..;)


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31 May 2020, 2:41 pm

I know it's a cop-out but I think we have to wait before judging the impact of any one part of the news cycle. I'm leaning strongly towards option 3 in the mean time.



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31 May 2020, 2:45 pm

Each day the riots and terrorism continue, 100,000 new Trump voters are created.

There will be a substantial shift toward Trump in the black community.


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31 May 2020, 2:50 pm

The clashes are likely to further divide people and draw conservatists more conservative, progressivists more progressive, with barren demilitarized zone in-between.
Option 1 if they get more violent, option 3 if they get more civil.


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31 May 2020, 6:19 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Theory 1
The backlash against the 60s counterculture led us to Nixon's election, landslide reelection, and after a Watergate break Reagan, and arguably Trump. The progressives get big crowds for the gun control, climate change marches and this. Whoopee do, the anti Vietnam War protests got huge crowds and there were a lot of riots also, how did that go? People will again get the impression the progressives are crazy and too radical, history will repeat itself.

Theory 2
This is 2020 not 1970. The country is more diverse, police brutality is instantly on social media. Trump's election was an anomaly, the 2018 midterm the blue wave is more indicative of the long term generational change. Floyd's murder is the tipping point that will finally get young people and minorities out to vote as much if not more than the older people. Biden wins handily, Democrats get control of the Senate and ok boomer thinking goes to the dustbin of history.

Theory 3
Trump's outrageous twitterstorms, the resistance, Russia gate, impeachment, Pandemic, the worst economy since the great depression and Trump's approval remains steady, so what's a bunch of riots going to change? It's going to come down to the same 50,000 votes or so in the same swing states.
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...What if reaction to the riots and an improvement in the COVID and economy situations gets Trump's base fervently behind him in the white Trumpian states - while Biden gets narrow enough victories in enough blue states - to get a Popular win for Trump and Electoral win for Biden, exactly. reversing 2016 8O :twisted: ?


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31 May 2020, 6:20 pm

luzzybinnedheart wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Theory 1
The backlash against the 60s counterculture led us to Nixon's election, landslide reelection, and after a Watergate break Reagan, and arguably Trump. The progressives get big crowds for the gun control, climate change marches and this. Whoopee do, the anti Vietnam War protests got huge crowds and there were a lot of riots also, how did that go? People will again get the impression the progressives are crazy and too radical, history will repeat itself.

Theory 2
This is 2020 not 1970. The country is more diverse, police brutality is instantly on social media. Trump's election was an anomaly, the 2018 midterm the blue wave is more indicative of the long term generational change. Floyd's murder is the tipping point that will finally get young people and minorities out to vote as much if not more than the older people. Biden wins handily, Democrats get control of the Senate and ok boomer thinking goes to the dustbin of history.

Theory 3
Trump's outrageous twitterstorms, the resistance, Russia gate, impeachment, Pandemic, the worst economy since the great depression and Trump's approval remains steady, so what's a bunch of riots going to change? It's going to come down to the same 50,000 votes or so in the same swing states.
q







...What if reaction to the riots and an improvement in the COVID and economy situations gets Trump's base fervently behind him in the white Trumpian states - while Biden gets narrow enough victories in enough blue states - to get a Popular win for Trump and Electoral win for Biden, exactly. reversing 2016 8O :twisted: ?


The EC rules the roost, so it would be Biden.


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31 May 2020, 8:41 pm

As I understand it:
The protesters are predominantly on the "left" of the political spectrum
The (violent) protesters are committing "felony" level crimes
Convicted felons are not eligible to vote.

Maybe it's all a secret plan to lower the number of potential Democrat voters in the upcoming election?

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