I feel like it's over for Aspie men when it comes to dating

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02 Jun 2020, 12:48 pm

As someone who has became more black pilled over the last month or so,I believe it's over for us aspie males when it comes to dating/women.What woman would want guy who has Aspergers?There's a reason why there's so many more aspie females who are/have been in relationships than aspie males,which also explains why aspie females have way more of a chance to be friends with the opposite sex than aspie males do.We are just not seen as not appealing to women at all.In all of my life,every girl/woman has rejected me to the extent to where I don't even know how it's to be friend-zoned,let alone to know how it feels to be in a relationship. Being as Aspie,combined being a ethic(non white) and being short(around 5'10),I accepted that it's over for me and never stand a chance in the first place.Real love doesn't exist for guys like me.Many of us are just not meant for love and never will.Nowadays,it even seems like certain normies struggle when it comes to relationships.In my real life and on the internet(especially YouTube and Reddit), I seem have seen to be decent/good looking men who struggle with dating and they don't even have Aspergers. Maybe this is the product of feminism/hypergamy of why some normal men struggle. Combine feminism/hypergamy with fact that we are seen weird and socially awkward as aspies,what's the point of trying to even to befriend women,let alone trying to be romantic relationships with women?



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02 Jun 2020, 1:00 pm

Don't feel bad right now. Unless you're in a committed cohabitating relationship already or you're Covid-19 positive and you find a date with a Covid-19 positive partner, I don't think the current situation is conducive for anyone to date, NT or ND.

That might not solve your problem, but you should be able to couch your feelings on the subject for awhile since everyone on the dating scene is in the same boat right now. Everyone.


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02 Jun 2020, 2:22 pm

5’10” isn’t short.

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Maybe this is the product of feminism/hypergamy of why some normal men struggle.


What would feminism have to do with this?

Point me in the direction of the evidence that hypergamy makes up the majority of North American marriages? I don’t think that’s accurate, but I’m always open to evidence.

I know it’s really difficult to feel like this, and I’m sorry you struggle. I just think we shouldn’t go diving into black-and-white thinking.


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02 Jun 2020, 2:26 pm

Many female members just spent a considerable amount of time posting on your other thread, and saying that the misconceptions are wrong. We don't want the things that many autistic men think we want. We only want reasonable partners who care about us as human beings rather than sex objects, conquests, or people to boost their ego.

We also said many times that it's important / helpful to be friends with women whether or not you date them. To be friends, it's important not to insult, dismiss, or stereotype anyone by their gender.

I personally wrote that I like / prefer autistic men and that I'm not comfortable with flashy or social NT guys. Perhaps you didn't see that, or perhaps you've decided that you know my mind better than I do. I've also said that I'm not a feminist. I'm an egalitarian. All genders and all people are equal in my ethical code. Many people on WP and in the "real world" are equally open-minded regardless of the labels which others presume.

I have no idea what all this pill *crap* is about because I don't follow gender role ideology.

My only ideology is that people shouldn't stereotype or generalise others.

I'm weird and socially awkward just like you. Autism doesn't doom you (or me, or anyone) to failure, if they are good people and they treat others the way they'd like to be treated, in return.



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02 Jun 2020, 4:18 pm

If there is never any hope at all for aspie men, then why do aspie men still find girlfriends and get married?


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02 Jun 2020, 4:36 pm

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FFS there is no pill.


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02 Jun 2020, 4:54 pm

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FFS there is no pill.



There’s an anal suppository :mrgreen: - that what I would call my movement. lol.

OP, I think it’s the end of dating for many nonsocial people; but not for the reasons you’re stating.
Mainly due to covid and the devastating economic regressions that will follow very soon (which will be hitting almost everywhere); hence dating will no longer be anyone’s priority, men or women, for the upcoming decade; and after that decade loss, then it will become pointless and so behind others exp wise and so used to single life to the point that it’s no longer feasible.
So those who are already struggling, and have already little social life will have now even less social life + more life troubles to face; so cutting chances times fold.

Btw, I am someone whom’s “bad predictions” always come true; all my friends and family are always like “you hexed it! It became true” - I am simply a rational pessimistic.



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02 Jun 2020, 7:40 pm

I don't think there's anything prophetic about that suggestion, a trend isn't indicative of reality all the time.


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02 Jun 2020, 9:14 pm

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That might not solve your problem, but you should be able to couch your feelings on the subject for awhile since everyone on the dating scene is in the same boat right now. Everyone.

it'd be easier to put the idea of dating on the backburner for the duration of the pandemic if we felt like our love lives would actually improve after the pandemic, in the same way that it's easier to withstand hunger if you have good reason to believe your next meal isn't far away.



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02 Jun 2020, 11:42 pm

Sexting is booming tho (and boring as ever).

I have been video called by horny gals during the pandemic more than my lifetime before it.



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03 Jun 2020, 4:56 am

If you want to give up on dating, give up on dating. For some people that's the right choice.

Tying to date may be a hopeless endeavor for some men, some of whom are autistic. However, autism is a highly diverse disorder, lumping people into the same diagnosis that have next to nothing in common with each other. Autistic people have other traits, unrelated to their autism, that may exacerbate or compensate their struggles. Convincing yourself that it is next to all autistic men and some perfectly average non autistic guys who don't have a chance may make you feel better, but it doesn't make it true.

Several autistic men on this forum have told you that they are or have been in relationships. You chose to ignore it and insist that it's almost impossible for an autistic man to get a date. Surely more than the ones who are or have been in relationships have female friends or acquaintances or at the very least had some normal interactions with women.

I'm not sure where you live, but the average height of a young man in the USA is 5'9. 5'10 is not short. And being average height does not cause any dating-struggles.

Your ethnicity could reduce your chances with some people. However, are you the only non white person in the area you live in? No non-white women?



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03 Jun 2020, 7:54 am

Yes Autism tends to exasperate male disposability and staring down at this fact for long enough is as terrible as the fact itself, because it shows that we're just animals and the more we look at it the more nihilistic we become.

But then you think and wonder " Perhaps someone will have compassion?" and you search and search and find nothing. Then you realize that compassion is a foreign word to humanity. Then you begin to hate humanity and regret that you were ever born. The closer you get to the truth the more and more you begin to flirt with nihilism and eventually misanthropy.

But the problem is you can't dwell on this fact. People will tell disposable males that "there is a pot for every lid" but when you weigh this advice with actual experience you see that this certainly isn't true at all, and that they tell themselves these things to feel good about their situation, that they're not animals, that their relationship is different.

Truth of the matter is that our relationships are no different than what the animals do. They are subject to the same desires. We are no different than the animals. Disposable aspie males have to see this fact, it's ugly, it's terrible, it makes us weep and wonder why we even exist. "This can't be it? right? Is this all that we are and were? Then why are we even here?"

These questions are terrible but necessary. Ok now that we know what humans are, we can start walking towards what we wish they could be, by not taking part in human vanity we infuse meaning to our lives and evade where most people failed. However, this isn't a simple task, because then aspie males WILL have to give up on pornography and self-abuse. That is where most disposable aspie males fail, and so they return to the nihilism of their circumstance, and then they stay there forever until sorrow finally kills them one day.

Disposable aspie males musn't dwell in a place that keeps them suspended in their disposability; they have to move past searching for relationships and build their lives around their own hobbies and fancies which must exist outside of human vanity just as circumstance has forced upon them. Pursue a hobby that's not women relentlessly and with laser focus, and at the end of your life when you've achieved something with it, even in your solitude, you will look back and regret nothing. Whereas everyone who ran the common race will have led common lives indistinguishable from one another.



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03 Jun 2020, 10:54 am

Is it too much to ask not to be proselytized?


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03 Jun 2020, 12:01 pm

cberg wrote:
Is it too much to ask not to be proselytized?



Quoting verses isn't the same as proselytizing. There are plenty of proverbs in the bible that can be applied generally, and here is an instance where philosophy is required to prevent aspie males from falling into the trap of nihilism. You can only do that through philosophy since they already perceive the naked reality of this world and philosophy is how they can add meaning to that reality.

Pointing out the paradox that it's only low people that can perceive the truth of this world is one way that aspie males can find meaning, because only that perception can allow them to mend it. The others that work with this world and thrive in this world have no reason to change it. But it's not a good thing to be well adjusted to a sick world, as the old saying goes. Hence a disposable aspie male has a tremendous advantage here in that he is forced to see the truth, that humans are just animals and to become something more than just an animal is a tremendous opportunity. That is why i say that the focus should be on his goals and hobbies, and not women.



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03 Jun 2020, 12:14 pm

It's not over!

Women don't have a problem with aspie men! Don't mean to stereotype but alot of women are drawn to , introverted, socially awkward types. Types that are into computer games, have special interests.