Monuments to racism toppling around the world.
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From confederate statues across the USA to some slave trader statue in Bristol, England, and even a local one here in Vancouver - which hasn’t been toppled, but it’s being suggested it should be & maybe replaced with an Indigenous woman or something.. IMO the entire movement is rather refreshing to watch and long overdue.
It’s also kinda fun to watch the back and forth commentary about history and blah blah whatever. Ok, cool, argue about preserving history and such all you want while progressive humans continue to take action and toss bronze monuments to racism into rivers.
As for the local statue, it’s of “Gassy Jack,” an Englishman that ran one of the first pubs in Vancouver. He married an Indigenous woman, she got sick and died so he married her 12yo niece and had a son with her. She ran away once at 15. He died, their son died, then she died in ~1948 at age ~90. I highly doubt that protestors are going to tear his statute down here, but it would not surprise me in the least bit if it’s removed and replaced with a statue honouring Indigenous women.
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It’s also kinda fun to watch the back and forth commentary about history and blah blah whatever. Ok, cool, argue about preserving history and such all you want while progressive humans continue to take action and toss bronze monuments to racism into rivers.

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It’s not refreshing, it’s frightening.

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Well need someone with dynamite and structural understanding on wear to proper place it.
Hey don’t leave us Jews out. All Charles Lindbergh monuments should go and what about changing the name of the Ford motor company and all of their products?
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I don't really find your line of reasoning worth the debate anymore. You see a clear & obvious cause & effect, then attribute it to mindless chaos. No one said anything about that, but maybe the monument could use some neighbors.
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What about books, movies, museums, statues, art that depict American Indians as marauders and killers of peaceful, white explorers?
It all has to go?
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Well need someone with dynamite and structural understanding on wear to proper place it.
Hey don’t leave us Jews out. All Charles Lindbergh monuments should go and what about changing the name of the Ford motor company and all of their products?
Let’s not forgot all the compe who supported nazis in Germany during ww2
Who profit of the slave labor and death of the jews.
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It all has to go?

Is there song a fort Armstrong? He got what was coming to him for trying to go kill lots of natives, yet he’s american hero
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Good, the man was a mass murdering monster who was so horrible even other conquistadors considered him atrocious. It's hard to pick the worst in a pool entirely made up of racist monsters, but Columbus might actually be the very worst of them, he's certainly as strong of contender as any other colonial murderer.
The main accomplishment he's known for isn't even true, he's literally a nobody not worthy of remembering for anything positive.
It all has to go?

Yup,
Eventually.

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Good, the man was a mass murdering monster who was so horrible even other conquistadors considered him atrocious. It's hard to pick the worst in a pool entirely made up of racist monsters, but Columbus might actually be the very worst of them, he's certainly as strong of contender as any other colonial murderer.
The main accomplishment he's known for isn't even true, he's literally a nobody not worthy of remembering for anything positive.
Could you supply some quotes/links about the atrocities of Columbus?
This is all news to me.
BTW,
I only learnt yesterday that Australia *did* have slaves.

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Do you use your mobile phone when you post here?
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I don't think I get the mobile phone reference - am I missing something here?
The Native Americans were shamefully treated and so-called "treaties" were broken left and right by those who took their land. The bison were deliberately targeted for killing to destroy their livelihood. It was an atrocity.
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