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Interesting; A Painting Expresses (Exposes) So Much More Than Words Alone.
'Here' We Have A Portrait of So-Called Mary; God Yes, So-Called Mother of Jesus; So
European, Fair And Estrogen Dripping Lovely; in Other Words, Epitome of Womanly Fertility;
Fully Equipped, Ready to Nurture LoVE iN All Her Children; Sending Them Out Into the World
to Cooperate In Kindness; WoRKinG ToGeTHeR, Surviving, Thriving, With Helping Hands Of Love
And My God
in 'Pure Evil'
The Artist
Has turned
Another Truly
Lovely Mother of Love
Into A Fire Breathing Dragon;
'Jesus F in Christ' What A 'HeLLuVA Statue'
'Here', Slaying All Her Enemies Into A Tortuous
Hell of Death Forever Then That only A True Sadist,
Psychopathic, With No Human Feelings at All could ever Fathom
Doing to Another Human Being; Where Vengeance Becomes
The Only Blood of Fear and Hate; And the Blood Of Love Is
Dead of Real Victory; The Blood
Of Love
Is Dead
Forevermore
NoW iN Fear And Hate...
It'S UNderStandable MaKinG
A Symbol Like 'Trump' into A God
of Fear And Hate; but i'm Sorry This
Painting IS ALL A Lie for A Woman Fair
As this Would Never Become the Devil
Incarnate Or Any Son Raised With The Spirit of Love;
What God, Do You Love;
What God, Do You Love;
What God, Do You Love;
Do You See
the Problem
With Answering
This Rhetorical Question
For Real With A God That is
Only A Dragon With A Serpent
Fire Destroying All That is Great, Life As LOVE;
ONCE AGAIN, MY FRiEND, LOVE CLASS: LOVE NEVER
FORCES WORSHIP; LOVE ALWAYS FORGIVES AS THE
LAST CHANCE IS ALWAYS FIRST; LOVE BREATHeS ETeRNaLLY NoW
OR LOVE DOES NOT;
THere is No Love
In 'This Painting';
Only Vengeance
oF Fear And
Hate;
The Artist
Killed The God
Of Love No Different
Than Parts of Both
The Old Testament;
Yes, That Older Newer Testament too;
Guess What, Love Still Breathes; It'S HEaVeN
Now But Only When Real, When Living Within
To Give And Share Free to All With Least Harm to Breathe;
Do You See the Problem Here; Your Mistake is Believing Everything
Folks Tell You Is True; You have Yet to Discern Breath, Love Eternal Now
or Death Living Now Forever; This Painting Tells A Story of A God You BeLiEVE iN Most;
Hint:
IT Ain't Love Related;
It's More Like What You
Find In a Stephen King Movie In the Gutter;
Love Is the Child Who Always Forgives; Love
Is the Child Who Always Loves; When God
Does NOT Meet The Standard of the Love
Of A Child, God Is No Greater Than
Living Dead; Zombie
Apocalypse Real
For Living
Dead
Eternally Now
in Fear And Hate
to Harm Others Away From Love.
But You See my FRiEnD; i See ReaLiTY
Through The Eyes of Love; If God
Is Love So Are My Eyes;
What Eyes Do
You Want
to See Reality As;
Eternal Torturing Enemies;
Or Eternal Loving Enemies;
Which So-Called 'JeSuS' Do You BeLiVE iN NoW And Forever;
Or Are You Too Weak of Love to Love An Enemy Forever Now;
If so, THere iS At Least One JeSuS in 'The Story' YOU DO NOT BELIEVE iN.
CLUE:
THeRE IS A GOOD
COP AND BAD COP
JeSuS IN THE BIBLE;
Both Characters Are Written
in by Innumerable Ghost Authors;
Some of those Ghost Authors And
Or Editors 'Smell' More Like 'Trump';
I. E. STiNK, STaNK, STuNK, FeaR HaTE;
Most all of us have a potential
to BE Either Cop; Choose the
Good Cop Forever Now; If You Will And You Do; Then,
Your Life Will Be Light Over Darkness, Smelling More Like Heaven.
Nothing Personal: Just Reviewing 'Your Painting'.
Have A Nice Day; Smell A Flower; BE A Real Man
And Wear FLoWeRS More Than THoRNS If You Rise As Rose;
Any Being That Will Send Any Being
To Eternal Torture Is THE REAL DEVIL;
i Understand the Ignorance and Even Have Sympathy For 'Trumps';
Hehe; Perhaps i am A Bringer oF LiGHT; Perhaps i Am A 'Statue too'..
Would Explain
My Birthday on 6660,
If You BeLiVE iN Karma..
OnlY A ReaL DeViL
And Angel Sees Both Sides of (JaNuS)
JusT ANoTHeR HuMaN ArcHeType; 'They' End,
'They' STaRT; We CoME AgAiNoW aS LoVE AGaiN
The beings Our Lady is casting down aren't human souls, they're spirits. Specifically they're the old Roman gods, the painting shown above is a modified version of painting that shows the triumph of Christianity over Pagan Rome; the artist modified it to show the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary over the "New Paganism" of the Modern West, as Our Lady of Fatima prophesied and promised.
A mother is merciful and forgiving to her children and innocent strangers, but a mother must also be strong and protect her children from those who would cause them harm. But when it comes to Our Lady and the Devil, it actually goes much further, you see, because Satan used Eve, the woman, to bring about the Fall of humanity, God ordained that it would be the New Eve who would cause Satan's ultimate demise:
"I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel." Genesis 3:15 DR
The original Hebrew used in "she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel" is gender neutral and thus, many translations render it as "he shall crush thy head..." but Philo and Josephus, two contemporary of Christ, as well as the well-renowned medieval Jewish apologist Moses Maimonides, all testify that the correct understanding of that is "she shall crush thy head..."
I don't believe everything Pope Francis says, but when he canonized Junipero Serra, that canonization was infallible. A lot of Rad Trads have objected to the canonizations Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI, and Pope John Paul II, but it's been well-proven that canonizations are infallible, they cannot be rejected. Yes, some of the critiques of the three Popes by the Rad Trads are legit, yes, I would rather that St. Junipero Serra did not authorize corporal punishment on the Missions and yes, St. Thomas Aquinas erroneously rejected the Immaculate Conception; but as I mentioned above, when a person gets canonized as a Saint, that doesn't mean that that person is perfect, only Jesus and Mary are perfect. Catholics are free to question and discern a lot of things both inside and outside the Church, there is a lot that watch very carefully before making a judgement. (Especially in regards to politics) But when it comes to Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Teaching Magisterium, there I and other Catholics are bound to obey, because those three things are infallible. And when one trusts in those infallible authorities, a lot of things become clear that one would otherwise miss:
04 Jul 2020, 10:44 pm
^^^
Smiles; It's Up to You of Course; but i Suggest You do a little Divinity School Level
University Study on the Bible, to See the Origins of the Text We Read Now.
I've Mentioned it before; but it is most definitely Written By Innumerable
Ghost Authors, And Copied By Scribes over Centuries, With Both Innocent
Mistakes that will of course happen; And Intentional Changes too; As God yes,
of course We Are Talking About Humans writing all the Words; Some of Which are
Inspired by Love; And some that are no Greater than what Trump Says on Twitter.
This is Human Nature, Dark and Light; Come to Understand who the Real Heroes
And Villains Are Then And Now; And there won't be any Need to Crush Any Heads;
And You Won't Ever Think or Feel An Innocent Child Born Before Baptized Is Any Less than
Worthy; Male And or Female of Course; As Nature Does the In Between of that as Natural God Breath too.
According to 'Jesus', You Find Heaven And God
By Looking Within; Without Even Any CuLTuRaL Clothes At all;
'He' Also Says Turn The Other Cheek; Love And Forgive Your Enemy As Your Neighbor;
And Turns Around With A Gaslit Lie that Says He'll Judge Ya, if Ya Misbehave, And Send
Ya to Torture of Hell Forever.
Common Sense my Friend; If you can't See the 'Personality
Disorder' For Anyone Who Demands Worship As Love in Penalty
of Eternal Torture; You Obviously, Can't See A Devil You
Already Read About IN the Bible;
If there was ever an 'Anti-Christ'
Away From Love It's Clearly
the No Forgiving Eternal Damning Version of Jesus and Or God;
Seen Too Many Examples of Demagogues in History And Present
Not to See through the Obvious Lies of whoever Wrote that Part of that Old Bible.
Hey; You are trusting your Soul to an Organization that Protected Pedophiles And
only Stopped Because they got Caught.
You Are Dealing With Humans; All
Capable of Devil and Angel Stuff Now;
Safest way to Go is Look Within And find
Your own Savior That only You Will Depend on.
Obviously That is What The Essence of the Story of 'Jesus' did too.
Gotta Get through the Chaff to Find the Wheat Wherever You Go in Life.
The Greatest Gold is What You Are already Born to Do; Love; And in the Study of
Theology; the Evolution of Love Takes you Eventually to Agape Love for ALL and that's IT;
If You Get That Far;
Some Folks do it Early;
Some Folks Do it on their Death Bed.
Others Never See Heaven WiTHiN to Give And Share FREE iN This Entire existence Now.
Sadly, Abrahamic Religion are mostly Counter Productive to reach Heaven Now, For Real.
The Message is still in the Bible; but only if you find The Force of Heaven Love Within to Actually 'See' It;
For Lots of folks; It just doesn't make Sense until they Actually Experience this Agape Love of Heaven Within.
After that:
Aha, Now i get (Heaven) IT.
If You haven't Arrived; Ya got the rest of Your
Breath at least to get Here Eternally Now; It's As Impossible
To Measure Heaven Within as it is to Fully Empirically Measure
Love Within; And God The Same; but of course God Is Love, if You
Really Believe that Part of the Bible.
That Much of It i see as True;
i understand the Nature of
Any Organization That Works
to Give Folks Status And Power;
It Always Attracts the Villains
Among Us and Heroes
too..
Know
the Difference;
Better Yet, Intuit (FeeL) the
Difference With Eyes (HeART) Who 'Sees' the Difference..
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04 Jul 2020, 11:17 pm
One of my parent's oldest and closest friends is a German catholic lady who also follows an evangelical version of Catholicism. She had a remarkable life surviving the allied blitz in Cologne in WWII as a child. She came as a war refugee to Australia and she found solace in evangelical catholicism (I understand her mother was converted to this during the war). We respected her a lot given the hardships went through and never questioned her personal beliefs.
Over time her children drifted from catholicism and neither practice, her husband was also a German war refugee (now passed) was catholic but never shared her passion or zeal.
As she got older she told us she began to receive wisdom through annual trips she took to Medjugorje (she believed in saints and miracles). The wisdom was to accept that there were some things she would not change, specifically saving her children and husband's souls. It was a big step for her. This did not stop her from praying for them (she also prayed for us Anglican/protestants as well
).What I am trying to say is you can be a good person and close to god without needing to evangelize.
Were the catholic priests who evangalized many millions of indigenous people around the world responsible for genocide? I think in their minds they thought they were doing god's work. So I personally don't blame them.
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04 Jul 2020, 11:40 pm
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04 Jul 2020, 11:48 pm
One of my parent's oldest and closest friends is a German catholic lady who also follows an evangelical version of Catholicism. She had a remarkable life surviving the allied blitz in Cologne in WWII as a child. She came as a war refugee to Australia and she found solace in evangelical catholicism (I understand her mother was converted to this during the war). We respected her a lot given the hardships went through and never questioned her personal beliefs.
Over time her children drifted from catholicism and neither practice, her husband was also a German war refugee (now passed) was catholic but never shared her passion or zeal.
As she got older she told us she began to receive wisdom through annual trips she took to Medjugorje (she believed in saints and miracles). The wisdom was to accept that there were some things she would not change, specifically saving her children and husband's souls. It was a big step for her. This did not stop her from praying for them (she also prayed for us Anglican/protestants as well
).What I am trying to say is you can be a good person and close to god without needing to evangelize.
Were the catholic priests who evangalized many millions of indigenous people around the world responsible for genocide? I think in their minds they thought they were doing god's work. So I personally don't blame them.
I see then.
Just is a quick side-note, it's interesting that you mention Medjugorje now, after I have been bringing up what's called the Protoevangelium, the prophecy that Our Lady will crush Satan's head. I find it interesting because in the Medjugorje apparitions, Our Lady's feet aren't visible; but I won't go into a huge digress on that now, I'll go back to the subject at hand.
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04 Jul 2020, 11:52 pm
Fortunately, it does look like the escalation is slowing down now. Although last time I checked, the controversy involving the statue in St. Louis, Missouri is still ongoing.
05 Jul 2020, 12:05 am
Actually now that I think of it...the german lady I was speaking about would also be unhappy about the demolition of statues of canonised saints. I see her perspective and through that I also see your perspective greatshields.
Who would have thought! I am the one learning wisdom 
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05 Jul 2020, 10:21 pm
Who would have thought! I am the one learning wisdom
Very interesting.
I haven't forgotten your article by the way, I'm still going through the points in it. I thought about taking a break from it for today, but I took a closer look at one of the more interesting and difficult points, and may type-up a response later this evening if I have the time.
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