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07 Aug 2020, 8:24 pm

There have been some things that have been cancelled that don’t make sense to me. An example of this is when they suddenly decided to cancel the Field Of Dreams game recently, and they didn’t even say that it was bc of covid. This would’ve been quite intriguing for me bc the field is only an hour away from where I live. Even before they cancelled it, they decided to do White Sox and Cardinals for that game. And I will acknowledge that I’m a bit biased bc I’m a Cubs fan but what sense does it make that they choose the Cardinals to play the White Sox instead of the latter teams’ cross town rivals?

I also hear that even now, there are still many travel bans in place for traveling overseas. Why the hell can people still fly domestically, but not to other countries? There are couples that still aren’t able to see each other. At least one country made a travel exemption with couples, yet others aren’t willing to follow suit. I find that to be quite heartless of those governments. The whole travel bans themselves make no sense at this point(see question asked above)?

I sometimes think about how irritated I’ll be if by next summer we won’t be any closer to the end of the tunnel. Hell, when this started I and I’m sure many others thought this was only gonna be done by summer time. Now it’s gotten to the point that a couple family members of mine sounded uncertain about how things were gonna be by next Summer. It’s as far as being called the “covid era” and “the new normal”.

Alright, that’s all I have for now.


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07 Aug 2020, 10:47 pm

Inconsistencies... I don't think most know what they're doing in general and just go along with any decision and direction.
Like my sons nurse pointed out that the drama with having to purchase 3 tickets fr a flight to leave gaps (2-3 empty seats in between u n the next person)

according to guidelines made no sense as they would be in a flight for hours sharing the same air as it is circulating


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08 Aug 2020, 1:09 pm

Chances are the game was cancelled due to covid spreading in crowds of people gathering. If there wasn’t to be a live audience, it could have been due to player safety concerns about catching covid. Hell, maybe they couldn’t get insurance due to covid. No idea how team selection works for that sporting event, but maybe it’s based off of who they think will draw the largest tv audience and make the most money? Often times things like this are business decisions.

How is it difficult to comprehend why Americans can’t travel internationally? It’s because other countries don’t want you there bringing covid with you. The entire world has made MASSIVE sacrifices to mitigate the spread of the virus and far too many Americans just don’t give a F or believe the lies from your president, and the bottom line result is you have about the worst outbreak in the entire world. Why should the EU or any other nations invite Americans to come spread the virus, kill their people and ruin their economies like you’re doing at home? Get real. I hope the travel bans stay in place for a couple years or so until there’s a workable vaccine.

As for domestic flights, the USA prizes $$$ over health of its citizens so wants as much of its economy rolling full steam ahead - including air travel for business and vacations, so, domestic flights are open for business.

Flights are still landing and leaving here, both international and domestic. And they’re bringing covid. IMO they shouldn’t be moving at all but there’s too much $$$ at stake so as long as hospitals aren’t full they’ll keep flying I guess. Won’t catch me anywhere near an airport or on a plane - covid hot spots, F that.

New normal is going to last another probably 2-3 years. It’ll take that long for a vaccine to be proven and then manufactured, distributed, and injected. And even then it’s not going to be fully over because there are so many anti science anti vaxxer type conspiracy theory morons that will refuse to get the vaccine.. so, many more will still get sick and die from covid-19 for years to come.

It really is too bad so many people are under the spell of their obese orange cult leader and believe the crap he tells them. By now they should be able to tell by the several hundred thousand dead people worldwide that this isn’t a democrat hoax just to get trump out of office. Idiots. :roll:


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08 Aug 2020, 6:18 pm

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Chances are the game was cancelled due to covid spreading in crowds of people gathering. If there wasn’t to be a live audience, it could have been due to player safety concerns about catching covid. Hell, maybe they couldn’t get insurance due to covid. No idea how team selection works for that sporting event, but maybe it’s based off of who they think will draw the largest tv audience and make the most money? Often times things like this are business decisions.

How is it difficult to comprehend why Americans can’t travel internationally? It’s because other countries don’t want you there bringing covid with you. The entire world has made MASSIVE sacrifices to mitigate the spread of the virus and far too many Americans just don’t give a F or believe the lies from your president, and the bottom line result is you have about the worst outbreak in the entire world. Why should the EU or any other nations invite Americans to come spread the virus, kill their people and ruin their economies like you’re doing at home? Get real. I hope the travel bans stay in place for a couple years or so until there’s a workable vaccine.

As for domestic flights, the USA prizes $$$ over health of its citizens so wants as much of its economy rolling full steam ahead - including air travel for business and vacations, so, domestic flights are open for business.

Flights are still landing and leaving here, both international and domestic. And they’re bringing covid. IMO they shouldn’t be moving at all but there’s too much $$$ at stake so as long as hospitals aren’t full they’ll keep flying I guess. Won’t catch me anywhere near an airport or on a plane - covid hot spots, F that.

New normal is going to last another probably 2-3 years. It’ll take that long for a vaccine to be proven and then manufactured, distributed, and injected. And even then it’s not going to be fully over because there are so many anti science anti vaxxer type conspiracy theory morons that will refuse to get the vaccine.. so, many more will still get sick and die from covid-19 for years to come.

It really is too bad so many people are under the spell of their obese orange cult leader and believe the crap he tells them. By now they should be able to tell by the several hundred thousand dead people worldwide that this isn’t a democrat hoax just to get trump out of office. Idiots. :roll:
Even Well after The pandemic started and MLB had decided to do the 60 game season, they still had planned on doing the game in Iowa. You would think that if they were ever gonna cancel it, they would’ve made that decision a long time ago. Instead they made us think that this was gonna be one thing that we were still gonna have, and then they surprised us all just a week and a half before it was supposed to happen. :roll:

Have you not heard that a lot, if not all of international travel requires a 14 day quarantine? That said, why the hell are you so worried about covid? And you HOPE that travel bans stick for a couple years? How about you read the articles below(the second one is especially sad).Maybe you’ll understand a bit more. You would certainly feel much more differently if you were actually IN their situation.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/04/0 ... o-v-i-d-19

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texoma ... ation/amp/

How pathetic is it that a government only considers married couples to be family.

And way to accuse me of being a Trump supporter. I know he played a role into starting this mess. But most of what I stated has nothing to do with him. It had to do with organizations making cancellations to events that didn’t need to be cancelled bc other stuff is going on that involves just as much risk. Like, instead of doing 14 day quarantines when entering certain countries, they continue to ban it entirely.


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08 Aug 2020, 6:24 pm

COVID has a very funny way of manifesting itself at times.

It’s its unpredictability which scares many people, more so than even its severity.

And the fact that there’s no vaccine for it.



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08 Aug 2020, 7:47 pm

Right now I am spending a few days with family in Florida, but thinking about this has really made me feel down in the dumps about how depressing life can be. My dad and uncle and I are at a restaurant waiting in line and I walked away and texted my mom about how stressed I am. Despite not being obnoxious about it(only being visibly “moody”)my dad just told me “I don’t wanna bring you on vacation if you’re gonna be moody. You barely get to see your uncle and you’re acting like this”.

Right now I’m sitting in the car in tears after he said that. I didn’t mean to bother anyone with the pain I’m feeling. :cry:


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09 Aug 2020, 8:58 am

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Chances are the game was cancelled due to covid spreading in crowds of people gathering. If there wasn’t to be a live audience, it could have been due to player safety concerns about catching covid. Hell, maybe they couldn’t get insurance due to covid. No idea how team selection works for that sporting event, but maybe it’s based off of who they think will draw the largest tv audience and make the most money? Often times things like this are business decisions.

How is it difficult to comprehend why Americans can’t travel internationally? It’s because other countries don’t want you there bringing covid with you. The entire world has made MASSIVE sacrifices to mitigate the spread of the virus and far too many Americans just don’t give a F or believe the lies from your president, and the bottom line result is you have about the worst outbreak in the entire world. Why should the EU or any other nations invite Americans to come spread the virus, kill their people and ruin their economies like you’re doing at home? Get real. I hope the travel bans stay in place for a couple years or so until there’s a workable vaccine.

As for domestic flights, the USA prizes $$$ over health of its citizens so wants as much of its economy rolling full steam ahead - including air travel for business and vacations, so, domestic flights are open for business.

Flights are still landing and leaving here, both international and domestic. And they’re bringing covid. IMO they shouldn’t be moving at all but there’s too much $$$ at stake so as long as hospitals aren’t full they’ll keep flying I guess. Won’t catch me anywhere near an airport or on a plane - covid hot spots, F that.

New normal is going to last another probably 2-3 years. It’ll take that long for a vaccine to be proven and then manufactured, distributed, and injected. And even then it’s not going to be fully over because there are so many anti science anti vaxxer type conspiracy theory morons that will refuse to get the vaccine.. so, many more will still get sick and die from covid-19 for years to come.

It really is too bad so many people are under the spell of their obese orange cult leader and believe the crap he tells them. By now they should be able to tell by the several hundred thousand dead people worldwide that this isn’t a democrat hoax just to get trump out of office. Idiots. :roll:
Even Well after The pandemic started and MLB had decided to do the 60 game season, they still had planned on doing the game in Iowa. You would think that if they were ever gonna cancel it, they would’ve made that decision a long time ago. Instead they made us think that this was gonna be one thing that we were still gonna have, and then they surprised us all just a week and a half before it was supposed to happen. :roll:

Have you not heard that a lot, if not all of international travel requires a 14 day quarantine? That said, why the hell are you so worried about covid? And you HOPE that travel bans stick for a couple years? How about you read the articles below(the second one is especially sad).Maybe you’ll understand a bit more. You would certainly feel much more differently if you were actually IN their situation.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/04/0 ... o-v-i-d-19

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texoma ... ation/amp/

How pathetic is it that a government only considers married couples to be family.

And way to accuse me of being a Trump supporter. I know he played a role into starting this mess. But most of what I stated has nothing to do with him. It had to do with organizations making cancellations to events that didn’t need to be cancelled bc other stuff is going on that involves just as much risk. Like, instead of doing 14 day quarantines when entering certain countries, they continue to ban it entirely.


Why would you assume a baseball game would go forward? :? Or were they planning it with no crowd? It’s judt assumed that everything with a gathering of more than a handful of people is cancelled for the foreseeable future.

Even with 14 day quarantine rules, why should other countries accept high risk of being infected people on their airplanes, in their airports, taxis, hotel lobbies etc on their way to their quarantine room? :? Not worth the risk of letting people from highly infected areas to come spread covid and its economic ruin to places where the pandemic is under control. USA F’d up its covid response ROYALLY and now its citizens will suffer the consequences of its leadership.

Why am I concerned about covid? Well, it can F anyone up from babies to seniors and there are more and more discoveries of lasting affects like heart damage in 75% of covid patients, lung & kidney damage, brain inflammation and memory problems in kids etc - so there’s that, but I’m 37yo in Okay shape (about to get back on track and into great shape again!) and thus would very likely survive and may or may not have lasting symptoms, but it’s not about me. I rent from my parents and they’re 66/67yo and my father is particularly high risk being a cancer patient who used to smoke for 30 years. A few years ago he was given 5-10 years to live and there’s no way I’m going to go hangout with my friends or hookup with some beautiful gay boys and risk getting covid, bringing it home, and then accidentally killing my dad before his time. It could also kill my mom. Social & sex life stuff can wait. Hopefully my motorcycle is repaired soon and I’ll have it to go for solo rides 8) and besides that I think I’ll get my gear out and inspected and go kiteboarding on the ocean in Squamish a few times - there are other things to do.

Waaah *sob sob* dating and split families. Whoopdeedoo. It’s a pandemic. s**t happens and people have to make changes and sacrifices - myself included. I usually have a Very Highly Active sex life but haven’t been within 6’ of anyone for about 5 months. Ah well, I’ve already had more than my fair share of sex partners for many lifetimes lol so I can sit this one out a while I guess. And I haven’t been able to meet 3 brand new babies born in the last 5 months yet and don’t know when I will be able to. We’re in a pandemic; we have to follow the science and do what we need to do, even if it means being sexually/socially isolated. Everyone is making similar sacrifices to safely get through this. Adapt, tough it out, it won’t last forever - maybe a couple years, but not forever.

I never accused you of being a trump supporter.


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08 Sep 2020, 12:05 pm

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Waaah *sob sob* dating and split families. Whoopdeedoo. It’s a pandemic. s**t happens and people have to make changes and sacrifices - myself included.
I hope that you don't end up saying something like that to the wrong people. Someone could be really bothered and maybe even feel devalued by your lack of compassion.

Had a talk with my psychiatrist today about the international borders thing and specifically how they won't allow bi national couples to see each other if they're not married, even if there's a kid involved, and she said: “some countries have different rules on that and it is their right. You might not like it but it is their right”. Just being kinda “cold” about it, y’know?

I kept calm after she said that because I have grown a bit immune to her bluntness after I had yelled at her once because of it over an unrelated subject. But I swear, if I was in a situation like the one what I've talked about earlier in this thread, I would've been tempted to yell at her again and certainly stop seeing her. I decided to revive this thread because this is really irritating me.


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08 Sep 2020, 1:14 pm

I don't understand why they didn't let the year 11s sit their GCSE exams in the UK. Each exam only lasts no more than 2 hours, and when you're doing an exam the whole room is arranged for the students to sit more than 6 feet apart anyway, and nobody is socially interacting, and the students have different exam schedules so that they're not all there at the same time, and they could have put a few children in a few different classrooms with a teacher in each to supervise. It sounds very logical.


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08 Sep 2020, 1:21 pm

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Waaah *sob sob* dating and split families. Whoopdeedoo. It’s a pandemic. s**t happens and people have to make changes and sacrifices - myself included.
I hope that you don't end up saying something like that to the wrong people. Someone could be really bothered and maybe even feel devalued by your lack of compassion.

Had a talk with my psychiatrist today about the international borders thing and specifically how they won't allow bi national couples to see each other if they're not married, even if there's a kid involved, and she said: “some countries have different rules on that and it is their right. You might not like it but it is their right”. Just being kinda “cold” about it, y’know?

I kept calm after she said that because I have grown a bit immune to her bluntness after I had yelled at her once because of it over an unrelated subject. But I swear, if I was in a situation like the one what I've talked about earlier in this thread, I would've been tempted to yell at her again and certainly stop seeing her. I decided to revive this thread because this is really irritating me.


Why would you be upset by her pointing out the simple fact that different countries have different rules? :?

Same same applies to everything. Had a discussion last night about a shipping container of building materials a friend shipped from Canada to Costa Rica. Their Customs rules & practices are dramatically different from Canada’s.. seems foreign to me - because it is. Here, we expect clear rules and a relatively simple process.. there, they can basically choose to hold your shipment hostage and tell you how much $ you have to pay to have it released. We don’t get to project our rules and norms on them. “When in Rome,” we simply have to “do as the Romans do.”

Same same for admissibility of people across international lines during this pandemic. Each country sets & enforces their own rules. I don’t get to influence them whatsoever, nor do you or anyone else. Sounds like she was just stating the facts to me.


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08 Sep 2020, 3:22 pm

I still think the fuss about Covid is too much in the sense that practically everything was cancelled for this year. As an aspie I don't like changes, unless they're for the better!


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08 Sep 2020, 5:45 pm

I don’t know if I’ll ever get over having to experience this sort of thing. I’ll have this nagging worry for the rest of my life that a virus as or even more deadly and fast spreading will emerge from somewhere, anywhere in the world and cause us to live like this again. One cruel thing that this has taught us is that we are all slaves to life’s circumstances. In the last 2 years I have dealt with a girlfriends parents coming between her and I and a pandemic that has caused really difficult circumstances.


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08 Sep 2020, 9:27 pm

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I still think the fuss about Covid is too much in the sense that practically everything was cancelled for this year. As an aspie I don't like changes, unless they're for the better!


..it’s better that fewer people die. ;)


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I don’t know if I’ll ever get over having to experience this sort of thing. I’ll have this nagging worry for the rest of my life that a virus as or even more deadly and fast spreading will emerge from somewhere, anywhere in the world and cause us to live like this again. One cruel thing that this has taught us is that we are all slaves to life’s circumstances. In the last 2 years I have dealt with a girlfriends parents coming between her and I and a pandemic that has caused really difficult circumstances.


Count your blessings, IMO. Some of us are double & triple+ your age and have never had a significant other. Focus on the good things, not the crap you can’t control.


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10 Sep 2020, 3:31 pm

Talked to another family member who believes that one way or another, there’ll be a successful vaccine and/or treatment and things will be better next year. It’s so much up and down for me. One minute I’m feeling good about the future and the next I have this fear that we’ll have to continue living in a pandemic.


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11 Sep 2020, 10:14 am

This vid clip by a US Medical Doctor is the best and most realistic explanation of the reality of a covid vaccine/treatments etc that I’ve seen anywhere on the internet. No bs, no blowing rainbows and sunshine up your arse, just the straight goods on what’s realistic & when and what we can all expect as well as what we can do about it now:


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