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12 Aug 2020, 8:38 am

I believe that human effort can make the world a better place, not faith. Religion doesn't make people "good". And it doesn't make "people" evil. It depends on the person.

Nobody knows for sure how we got here and nobody knows what tomorrow will bring.



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12 Aug 2020, 8:47 am

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil -- that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg, Physicist and Nobel Laureate

A person's "religion" can be whatever they worship, whether a Supreme Being, a philosophy, wealth, a political movement, or even another person.


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12 Aug 2020, 10:53 am

"A Person's "Religion" Can Be Whatever They Worship,
Whether A Supreme Being, A Philosophy, Wealth,
A Political Movement, Or Even Another Person."

Quoted For Truth Fnord; Only Way Now i 'See'
in improving Your Quote is by Capitalizing
Each And Every Word As Symbol For Essence
Of How We Breathe AS Human Beings Indeed We
Bond And Bind Over Common Symbols For Essence
of What We Feel Within at Best We 'Capitalize' 'All Symbols'

in Life

And Just
Make It All
LoVE DarK Thru LiGHT

iN Essence of Breathing Now

A Greatest Religion is LoVE NoW
Indeed Love is Inherent Worship
Love Never Requires External Worship
Love Never Fears Giving For Love Always
Gives And Shares Free Without Fear Now

Doing least Now
Harm consuming
Nature as the
Snake of
Nature
is Both
Tail
and
Head
of 'God'
Consuming
Love's Breath
But of CourSE
This is JusT my
Religion; my Religion
oF LoVinG iT ALL DarK Thru LiGHT NoW
i Love This Religion More Than to Call
it JusT A 3 Letter Word For This River
Love Flows Without CoNtainer Free Now
Obviously A Golden Chalice Without Love

IS A

Golden Chalice


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12 Aug 2020, 12:39 pm

Richard2989 wrote:
I believe that human effort can make the world a better place, not faith. Religion doesn't make people "good". And it doesn't make "people" evil. It depends on the person.

Nobody knows for sure how we got here and nobody knows what tomorrow will bring.


What you're describing may be secular humanism (in which there's some fundamental value to humans above all else, but no god) - maybe what Slavoj Zizek calls "Christian atheism" (God isn't here, we can only help each other)- but it may also be leaning towards a form of nihilism. Maybe cosmic nihilism (the universe is vast, and humans are these fancy biological machines, programmed to mindlessly procreate, consciousness is accidental, and there is no 'fate' for mankind, just like we don't think of a fate for, say, foxes), maybe optimistic nihilism (same as above, but with relief that the pressure of having a 'fate' is gone).

Secular humanism is what is common legal practice in the west. To the detriment of non-human animals, I should add.


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