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21 Oct 2020, 9:34 am

Pope calls for civil unions for same-sex couples, in major departure from Vatican doctrine

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Pope Francis called for the passage of civil union laws for same-sex couples in a documentary that aired in Rome on Wednesday, in a major departure from the position held by the Vatican’s doctrinal office.

“Homosexuals have a right to be part of the family,” the Pontiff said in “Francesco,” a documentary about his life, according to the Catholic News Agency. “They’re children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it.”

“What we have to create is a civil union law,” he added. “That way, they are legally covered. I stood up for that”


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21 Oct 2020, 9:44 am

His Popeliness did WHAT?!

Reality check: Is Hillary still president?


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21 Oct 2020, 10:35 am

If he insists that civilly married couples be allowed to partake in Holy Communion, that will be better.


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21 Oct 2020, 10:37 am

I wonder if he's citing the Bible to make his argument.


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21 Oct 2020, 10:49 am

My guess is that he changed his mind because being against same-sex marriage made him look like a tyrant in charge of a sexist and xenophobic organization that focuses on judging people who are merely different, calling them 'sinners', and driving them out of his organization.  Then he saw all the empty pews and collection plates.


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21 Oct 2020, 10:57 am

Whale_Tuune wrote:
If he insists that civilly married couples be allowed to partake in Holy Communion, that will be better.
By the rules about Holy Commmunion, it would be forbidden for someone living in a heterosexual union other than a Catholic marriage, right?
I wonder what is his opinion on Holy Communion for people in gay unions.


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21 Oct 2020, 11:19 am

I believe so, I am not Catholic but I am Orthodox, and it varies from parish to parish who is allowed to receive communion.


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21 Oct 2020, 11:28 am

In the church I attend, all are welcome to partake of Communion.  No one has to declare their heterosexuality (or anything else) to receive Communion.


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21 Oct 2020, 2:11 pm

Amen
Mr. Pope
He's Finally
On the Highway

to HEaVeNoW

For All, More
Specifically,
Even
'Him'
Now For Real
Excluding People
From Love is Fool's Gold...

Same Sex Civil Unions Amen

Now If He Will Just Treat
Transgender Folks Like
Human Beings He'll
Lift 'His'
Other
Foot
Out of
HiS Own
Made Hell
On Earth Away
From Love For All...

Ahem Lots of the
Congregation of
Fear and Hate
And Prejudice
is gonna get
Online
Butt
Hurt
Over this...

Progress...

It's What's

For Heaven For All In LoVE NoW...

Liberal Indeed Now Let's Just See if 'They'

Will Require Masks Conservative Enough

to Save the Sanctity of Life Breathing Instead

of Making Elder Mud-Mix For Building Trump Tower Golden Pyramids.

Hey, THere Ain't No Communion Police At the C-Church i Attend Can't

Afford to Lose Head Counts....

for the
Big
Collection
Congregation Basket

And Indeed What's Driving
The Mask Policy too For
Trump Town USA
Money God
Rules
Everywhere
'Trump Colors' Still Breathe...

And Sadly Go the Way of TRumP 5th Avenue too...

We Don't Need Anymore Catholic Church 'Behind
the Dictators' in Silence of REAL Evil Last Century for Sure....

Yes, Yes, My Grandfather Published A Book on that too.. FOR REAL...

Still in PDF Form
He's Got a Wiki
Page Author Bio
butt
i Verily
WiLL NeVeR Fit iN THeRE heHe...

Enough Just Enough As Is And More...;)


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21 Oct 2020, 9:59 pm

As always, you share some deep thoughts ahogday!

The Catholic backlash has been...disheartening. Hopefully Pope Francis can bring some progressive Catholics out of the woodworks, they've been marginalized in the Church for years it seems like.


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21 Oct 2020, 10:57 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
As always, you share some deep thoughts ahogday!

The Catholic backlash has been...disheartening. Hopefully Pope Francis can bring some progressive Catholics out of the woodworks, they've been marginalized in the Church for years it seems like.


Thanks, i go For the Human Connections;
Familiar Faces From Childhood Raised At Church...

It Was a Pleasant Enough Environment Until
Trump Came along and Emboldened the Worst
Parts among Leadership in the Church to Shine Darker that way...

It's become an
Echo Chamber of
All stuff Fox News;
And the Priest Started
Off the Trump Administration
Intimating the Church Could No
Longer Recognize America With
Legal Civil Unions Among Gay Folks...

And Basically Hail to Their New King then...

Waiting to See What Humble Pie Does or
Does Not Come This Saturday When i Visit
As the Pope Has Surely Turned Those Fear and
Hate Tables Over now; He Still Has some work to
Do on the Transgender Issue as He earlier this
Year Sent Specific Instructions to Bishops Not
To Validate the Science Behind What happens...

Anyway, Truly A Move in the Correct Direction
And a Necessity to have any Chance of Younger
Generations, overall, Attending Any Church At all..

Just About All the Folks Left Are Older than me;
And Just About all of them are Most Vulnerable to Covid-19 too..

That Part has
Disappointed me
Most as a Mask is
A Lightest Cross oF ALL
to Carry to Save a Human Life...

Not only is the Spirit Hard to find there now;
But Human Empathy is Drying Up Like a Concrete Sidewalk..:)


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21 Oct 2020, 11:40 pm

I'm sure there are many who will now be considering "is the pope catholic?" to no longer be a rhetorical question.


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22 Oct 2020, 1:31 am

^ lol



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22 Oct 2020, 8:29 am

Fnord wrote:
In the church I attend, all are welcome to partake of Communion.  No one has to declare their heterosexuality (or anything else) to receive Communion.


The last one I attended was like that as well.

Are you Lutheran, by any chance?


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22 Oct 2020, 9:12 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Fnord wrote:
In the church I attend, all are welcome to partake of Communion.  No one has to declare their heterosexuality (or anything else) to receive Communion.
The last one I attended was like that as well. Are you Lutheran, by any chance?
I can only claim a nominal Christianity (e.g., If Jesus did not say it, then it is not a Christian doctrine), although I do attend one of the other mainstream Reformist churches.


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22 Oct 2020, 11:09 am



i Need a Prop for THis; Perhaps A MeMe;
Yes, A Fabulous Country Singer With
A Very Powerful, And Very Necessary
Push-Up-Bra, And Traditional WASC
White Anglo Saxon Cadillac too;
Just Like the Folks on the Front
Row when the Southern Baptist
Gospel Songs Commence too!

Well, As Far as 'A Story Goes',
Deeper of Course As Usual,
Far Away From The Twitter
New Human Small Universe;
'The Constitution', According to
Jesus Is Comprehensive, Yet Simple...

Love All With Least Harm
And The Rest oF All Rises
In Peace For All Love Breathes...

Sadly, Jesus Never Wrote a Word Now
But If He Will Now This iS How He Will Phrase it AFAISee

Continuing in Free Verse Holy Creative SPiRiT iN Flow!

Meh; No Big Deal, The Way All Holy
And Sacred Text Comes; No Matter
Which Human Being Writes 'Kashmir';
No Matter, Led Zeppelin or Not Now;

Sadly, in many Ways the Institution,
The Organization, The Supreme Court
of the Catholic Church, Pope Down And Lower, has
Done A Poor Job Instituting This Constitution of Love For All With Least Harm...

Credit the Pope Now With Grace And Peace as it is a no Frigging Brainer to allow Folks No Matter

How Same Sex They Are With Each Other, And Of Course When Adult Age With Mutual And Consensual Consent

FOR CIVIL UNION OF GAY FOLKS TO BE A OKAY AND APPROVED NOW HOORAY For them and some of
my Closest Relatives who don't have to be so Afraid of the New Supreme Court Catholic Justice as the

POPE PUT
IN HIS VOTE
FOR GAY CIVIL UNIONS FIRST
AFFIRMING IT SOLID CONCRETE AS SOUL GREAT LOVE LAW!

Yes, there is a Long way to go; But Considering that
it is true the Catholic Church Most Definitely helped
Trump Get Elected, the one Against every Dam thing, 'the Beatitudes' Dance and Sing;

YES, GET ELECTED IN 2016 AND IS pushing Him through the Same with 'Fox News' in 2020;

There is no doubt
That the Pope
Understands
the 'Anti-Christ'
Nature and Evil
of Trump in the
World as a Globe Leader;
Metaphor Yes, but God DaM Correct...

But This is Just one nail in a Coffin of
Another Trump Ever RiSinG in the United StateS AGAiN

As it is Very True, 'Religion' Still Rules State, overall, at the Vote...

For the Very Simple Reason that Tradition, Overall, Votes Together as one Voice...

If We Dismantle All the Faux News About Abortion, When We Truly See As Science
Shows More Maiming, Permanent Disability, and Death, Overall, For All Who Are Concerned
Comes When Countries Make Abortion Illegal and Restrict Usage of Effective Contraceptions too

It Will be so very
True that Changing
The Law for More Love
With Least Harm With Less Overall
Human Misery, Suffering, And Death
Was And Is Already A Just Ruling the Supreme
Court already did; whether witting or not according
to the Constitution of the Story of Jesus Now still too...
And as Far As Health Care goes, anyone who takes that away
from 20 Million Folks now is truly doing no Holy Communion now; no ifs and or buts...

What Else; that about Covers the Ignorance of Church, State, And Religion for today

Except for Love Your Elders More Than Your Pets With Mercy At Death too With

Least Harm and Most Love too

Pat the Pope on the Head

For being

A God

(Love)

Boy Today...

Haha; ya gotta admit
but only if 'You' will
Now That the Pope's Vote
Really Ruined the 'Religious
Wrong's Fear and Hate against
Folks Who Are Different 'Orgasm' in Sweet Poetic Justice...

Waving From Standing Next to the Pope for now at least...

As the Meek Continue to Inherit the Planet of Love For All And Hell Yeah let's

Get 'Weird';

Yes, Different true!

As the Kingdom of Love
Continues to Rise Liberally Now;
Hopefully, With More Conservative
Justice to Stay Masked and Save Lives...

i have FRiEnDS in High Low Places too, HAha...

It is the Essence of Love That Breathes no matter what
Form or Frigging Body Part touches What Body Part next...

Let's Not Get
Lost in the
Flesh
And
Throw
The Baby
Yoda/Jesus Out
With Religious Wrong Dirty Water...

Go Pope Go, Don't Stop Now, Save the
Baby Yoda/Jesus/Love With Least Harm NoW
For All of Nature (GoD) NoW Before it's all too Late! NoW!

For Humans at Least
As the Roach and
Dragonfly
Got this
Breathing
EartH Inherited Already
MeeK iN Balance Continuing to Rise Alive!

Other Good News, 'Play With Yourself' More than Others;
There is enough Frigging Humans! You May Commune with them;

Just don't touch So Much! haha...

If You Wanna Live Wear A Mask!

If 'You' Don't, the Rest of Nature
iNcluding the Pandemic
ViRuS Ain'T Gonna
Cry Over
Your
Loss
Halloween
Night 365/7/24/60/60;

For Real Still Now;

Just Don't Not Do IT!
YeS, Wear A Mask!
Or It Will make Your
Pets Sad and Hungry too!

Yes, in Short and
Long As Dew

Covers Living

Blades of Grass

Let's Get Weird!
Let's Just Love it all in Balance True!

Final Advice; 'Write Your Own Bible' as 'Whitman Prophecy' too;

Priest of the Cosmos, Each Human Priest of Their own Soul

Authentically Breathing Love With Least Harm!

When Love Rules
With Least Harm
For All, Pope's Job Done;
No Longer Even Needed for Now...

For Each Human Being Dancing Singing THeir Own Pope True now...

No ifs, ands, or buts as Long as Love Rules With Least Harm Baby

Yoda and Baby Jesus

Breathes

Alive now!

iN each
Human
Being
Bathing ThiS WaY NoW..
Yes, Baby, BaptiZinG as Soul
Evolves MoRE iN Love WitH LEast Harm Now!

Greek Original Definition of Apocalypse and
Added Metaphors, 'Roll Away The Stone'; Yes,
Lift The Veils oF iGNorance; Survive And THRiVE iN
Joy oF Light; Verily, Understanding DarK; Yes, THorns
Are Necessary For FLoWeRS CoLoRinG RiSinG Roses LiVinG THRiVinG NoW!..:)

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