Trump supporters attack Biden bus.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-probing- ... 54281.html
If Trump loses, how can we expect his supporters to behave civilly? Destroying property during riots is one thing, but threatening to take human life is quite another.
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Well, at least the FBI is investigating:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/01/poli ... index.html
Which Trump (of course) isn't happy about:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... t-n1245728
The closest I could come to your claimed "threatening to take human life" in the article was:
Here are a couple of videos of the incident:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322566702048153600
It certainly appears to be the Trump supporter at fault, doesn't it...
However, when looked at from a different angle:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1323061843204689920
From what I can tell of the incident from both of these, the bus (and SUV) look to have tried to move across a lane (to avoid having to take the exit?), but while the bus has only moved part-way (not sure how legal it is to drive stradling 2 lanes like that), the white SUV fully moved across. At this point, the black "Trump" supporter's vehicle moved up, as the lane was clear. Once the white SUV driver realised the bus was not changing lanes, they have tried to move back into the previous lane, possibly unaware that there was a vehicle beside them (in blind spot?).
Had this occurred here, you would possibly have the bus driver in trouble for straddling 2 lanes for as long as it did, the Trump vehicle's driver possibly in trouble for travelling too close to the vehicle in front (bus), but the white SUV's driver would certainly be "at fault" for the incident between it and the Trump supporter's vehicle (Based on the footage, it could be considered that the white (Biden) vehicle was the one attempting to run the Trump vehicle off the road, given the Trump vehicle is in the outer-most lane, and it appears there was a series of culverts\drains beside the road in the area it occurred in).
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Here are a couple of videos of the incident:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322566702048153600
It certainly appears to be the Trump supporter at fault, doesn't it...
However, when looked at from a different angle:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1323061843204689920
From what I can tell of the incident from both of these, the bus (and SUV) look to have tried to move across a lane (to avoid having to take the exit?), but while the bus has only moved part-way (not sure how legal it is to drive stradling 2 lanes like that), the white SUV fully moved across. At this point, the black "Trump" supporter's vehicle moved up, as the lane was clear. Once the white SUV driver realised the bus was not changing lanes, they have tried to move back into the previous lane, possibly unaware that there was a vehicle beside them (in blind spot?).
Had this occurred here, you would possibly have the bus driver in trouble for straddling 2 lanes for as long as it did, the Trump vehicle's driver possibly in trouble for travelling too close to the vehicle in front (bus), but the white SUV's driver would certainly be "at fault" for the incident between it and the Trump supporter's vehicle (Based on the footage, it could be considered that the white (Biden) vehicle was the one attempting to run the Trump vehicle off the road, given the Trump vehicle is in the outer-most lane, and it appears there was a series of culverts\drains beside the road in the area it occurred in).
These Trump drivers were gathering around the moving bus obviously to intimidate the Biden supporters. Pulling a stunt like that at freeway speeds is irresponsibly dangerous and could have ended in loss of life. And no, the other side wouldn't have done the same.
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The head of the Texas Republican party already declared it "fake news."
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Here are a couple of videos of the incident:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322566702048153600
It certainly appears to be the Trump supporter at fault, doesn't it...
However, when looked at from a different angle:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1323061843204689920
From what I can tell of the incident from both of these, the bus (and SUV) look to have tried to move across a lane (to avoid having to take the exit?), but while the bus has only moved part-way (not sure how legal it is to drive stradling 2 lanes like that), the white SUV fully moved across. At this point, the black "Trump" supporter's vehicle moved up, as the lane was clear. Once the white SUV driver realised the bus was not changing lanes, they have tried to move back into the previous lane, possibly unaware that there was a vehicle beside them (in blind spot?).
Had this occurred here, you would possibly have the bus driver in trouble for straddling 2 lanes for as long as it did, the Trump vehicle's driver possibly in trouble for travelling too close to the vehicle in front (bus), but the white SUV's driver would certainly be "at fault" for the incident between it and the Trump supporter's vehicle (Based on the footage, it could be considered that the white (Biden) vehicle was the one attempting to run the Trump vehicle off the road, given the Trump vehicle is in the outer-most lane, and it appears there was a series of culverts\drains beside the road in the area it occurred in).
These Trump drivers were gathering around the moving bus obviously to intimidate the Biden supporters. Pulling a stunt like that at freeway speeds is irresponsibly dangerous and could have ended in loss of life.
Looking at the other, unaffiliated traffic, there did not appear to be any dangerous speed involved, nor was traffic obstructed. In any other circumstance, it would have looked like normal traffic, flowing smoothly. However, once you add slogans to a bus, and flags for a different (opposing) cause to some of the traffic, suddenly it is "intimidating"?
Given that the most dangerous act here (trying to merge into a lane and push the vehicle that was already there off the road) was performed by what was reported to be Biden staff in the white SUV, it is gracious of you to state that the Trump supporters wouldn't have done the same.
Personally, it appears to have likely been an accident (The driver of the white vehicle not noticing\realizing that the other vehicle was there, as it was in about the right location for a drivers "blind spot") and I'd suggest had the Biden and Trump supporters (and vehicles) been reversed, a similar incident would still have been possible.
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Here are a couple of videos of the incident:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322566702048153600
It certainly appears to be the Trump supporter at fault, doesn't it...
However, when looked at from a different angle:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1323061843204689920
From what I can tell of the incident from both of these, the bus (and SUV) look to have tried to move across a lane (to avoid having to take the exit?), but while the bus has only moved part-way (not sure how legal it is to drive stradling 2 lanes like that), the white SUV fully moved across. At this point, the black "Trump" supporter's vehicle moved up, as the lane was clear. Once the white SUV driver realised the bus was not changing lanes, they have tried to move back into the previous lane, possibly unaware that there was a vehicle beside them (in blind spot?).
Had this occurred here, you would possibly have the bus driver in trouble for straddling 2 lanes for as long as it did, the Trump vehicle's driver possibly in trouble for travelling too close to the vehicle in front (bus), but the white SUV's driver would certainly be "at fault" for the incident between it and the Trump supporter's vehicle (Based on the footage, it could be considered that the white (Biden) vehicle was the one attempting to run the Trump vehicle off the road, given the Trump vehicle is in the outer-most lane, and it appears there was a series of culverts\drains beside the road in the area it occurred in).
These Trump drivers were gathering around the moving bus obviously to intimidate the Biden supporters. Pulling a stunt like that at freeway speeds is irresponsibly dangerous and could have ended in loss of life.
Looking at the other, unaffiliated traffic, there did not appear to be any dangerous speed involved, nor was traffic obstructed. In any other circumstance, it would have looked like normal traffic, flowing smoothly. However, once you add slogans to a bus, and flags for a different (opposing) cause to some of the traffic, suddenly it is "intimidating"?
Given that the most dangerous act here (trying to merge into a lane and push the vehicle that was already there off the road) was performed by what was reported to be Biden staff in the white SUV, it is gracious of you to state that the Trump supporters wouldn't have done the same.
Personally, it appears to have likely been an accident (The driver of the white vehicle not noticing\realizing that the other vehicle was there, as it was in about the right location for a drivers "blind spot") and I'd suggest had the Biden and Trump supporters (and vehicles) been reversed, a similar incident would still have been possible.
I think you know as well as I do that the Trump cult caravan was meant for one thing only - - to intimidate. That alone made it dangerous. And yes, if they were on the freeway, then they were going fast.
A similar incident with Biden supporters would never have happened, because Biden's people aren't a bunch of violent hillbillies and rednecks out to terrify the opposition. On top of that, they'd know full well that Biden would have had them all surrendered to the police for that stunt. He isn't a psycho like Trump who cheers on violent and near violent confrontation like that.
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Then we definitely know who the barbarians will be.
They have been auditioning in Portland for months...
We're talking about motorized barbarians of the Mad Max post apocalyptic world, here.
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Then we definitely know who the barbarians will be.
They have been auditioning in Portland for months...
We're talking about motorized barbarians of the Mad Max post apocalyptic world, here.
Still Brictoria said what I was thinking.
There's no way so far to realistically deny that a certain side has produced the lion's share of months and years of rioting, burning and looting. Far more than MAGAs by a significant margin.
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